stupid Ga. parents want their children to be stupid too

[donsu]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=6&u=/ap/evolution_stickers


Ga. Schools to Appeal Evolution Ruling


Members of a suburban district's school board plan to challenge a federal judge's order to remove stickers in science textbooks that call evolution "a theory, not a fact."

-snip-

"They're ludicrous," Selman said of the school board. "They're ignoring the ruling."
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beyond ludicrous they are stupid.

[teenagebambam]

1. I think...

...Georgia is just a theory.

[donsu]

5. LOL - well Ga. was settled by people Europe didn't want

nt

[newyawker99]

32. Hi teenagebambam!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[aden_nak]

2. Gravity and Time are theories. Shall we get stickers for those too?

These people are using up valuable oxygen.

[DBoon]

10. Oxygen is a theory too

I think these people are excreting too much phlogiston.

[wtmusic]

3. You can't prove that the earth ISN'T flat

Turtles all the way down, baby

Makes sense when you think about it

:eyes:

[ingasm]

4. Peaches come in a can

Damn, some people will just never understand. Georgia - keep canning them peaches. Bitches.

[Kerrytravelers]

6. I think GA is stuck a few generations back on the evolution chain

[BlueEyedSon]

7. THANKS YOU ALL! This thread made me laugh so hard!

I was feeling kinda depressed after the Dem's pathetic performance at the Rice hearings.

[Benhurst]

8. The judge's ruling should be stricken. It is unfair and unenforceable.

How can these poor people be expected to remove stickers, pick their noses, and thump their Bibles, all at the same time?

[iamjoy]

9. I Have An Idea...

put a sticker that says, "Much of the material in this book is theory, not fact."

Didn't science used to be called natural philosophy?

Anyway, with my idea, everything is theory. For example, when they talk about human development and the gestation period for humans is 9 months - why that's theory too. I bet lots of Georgians know of couples whose first child came along less than 9 months after the wedding....(snicker, wink, nudge)

[michaelwb]

11. Excellent

"Much of the material in this book is theory, not fact."

I'm putting that on my tax returns. Just try and audit me....

[Huckebein the Raven]

12. Has some sort of black hole opened over Georgia that I don't know about ?

[MsTryska]

13. Not Georgia - COBB COUNTY georgia......

my neighborhood - which is actually a fairly upscale suburb of Atlanta, and home of Newt Gingrich.


I'm trying to figure out how to harass the school board now. These people need to be ousted.


Unfortunately i have no idea about school stuff as i'm a single renter.

[donsu]

14. americans need to realize how powerful school boards are

(and election boards)

I keep saying - get on a school board and you have it made

[MsTryska]

15. check this link out......

http://www.cobbk12.org/board/meetboard.htm



considering this woman's blurb - how can she possibly be for this? She went to University of Vermont for chrissakes.


more importantly looks like there's a few slots opening in 2006.




"Chairman of the Board
Kathie Johnstone ▪ Post 6

Kathie Johnstone began her first term in January 2003. Mrs. Johnstone has a BS degree in Physical & Health Education from the University of Vermont with teaching experience from kindergarten through college. She is presently an Adolescent Health Educator with HealthWise. Mrs. Johnstone is also Vice President of Johnstone Enterprises Inc., a golf related company. Before moving to the Atlanta, Mrs. Johnstone served as an elected School Board member for a Chicago, Illinois suburb. She has been involved at the local school level through PTA & PTSA, booster clubs, and advisory committees as member, President and Chairman. Since 1993 her Cobb district/county level involvement has included: President of Cobb County Citizens Advisory Council, Budget Review Committee, Blue Ribbon Committee as Chair of the Student Achievement Sub-committee, Facilities and Technology Committee, and Cobb County School Ethics Committee as Vice Chair. Mrs. Johnstone has always been active in community and charitable projects. She and her husband, Bill, have been involved with and raised considerable money for many local and national charities as volunteer event consultants and through the donation of “Golf - Variations on a Theme”. Kathie Johnstone has lived in Cobb County for 10 years with her husband of 28 years, Bill, Master Professional at Atlanta Country Club and her two children, Jessica and Scott. Both children are products of Cobb County Schools. Scott is a senior at Walton High School and Jessica is a 1997 Walton High School graduate, a 2001 graduate of the University of Notre Dame and received a Masters in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University in 2003. Term ends December 31, 2006"

[donsu]

17. thanks MsTryska - very interesting

nt

[stanwyck]

18. The Republicans have been killing us

for decades by knowing the importance of what you've said. Pack the local school boards and county commissions. Work the grass roots. There's real power there for people with an agenda. Baby steps. Baby steps. The fundy-fueled right does their homework. And they're patient. Drip. Drip. Drip. Before you know it, you're drowning in religious fundamentalism.

[MsTryska]

16. damn...y'all want irony?

here's the Mission Statement for the Cobb County Board of Education:

"Our vision is a community with a passion for learning." - Vision


Mission

The mission of the Cobb County School District is to guarantee a quality educational program for all students in a challenging, secure environment. We, as professional, caring educators, will provide a relevant, integrated curriculum. Our students will become critical thinkers who are knowledgeable, skillful and responsible, and who can succeed as life-long learners in a richly diverse society.

[stanwyck]

19. A young woman I work with

was educated in the Cobb Co. schools. She was astounded to find out that Japanese Americans were put in camps during World War II. She thought we were making it up. She's very good at her job (customer service) but we're continually dismayed at her lack of knowledge of geography, history, and literature. And she was on the honor roll.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

20. i am not sure why this is such a big deal

and why it would be a separation issue. I mean, the sticker is technically correct in that evolutionary theory tries to get the to the ORIGIN of life which cannot be known with 100% certainty, and there is nothing religious about the statement that it is a theory. Now, I do not know if the book contains information on creationism (which it should not as it is not a falsifiable premise), but if not...why the big hubbub?

theProdigal

[MsTryska]

22. here's an interesting explanation of what's going on here:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/14/opinion/courtwatch/main666986.shtml

[pamela]

21. Reminds me of this cartoon...

"We've still got the theory of gravity. Let's not blow it." heh

[Hoping4Change]

23. As a show show of tolerence why not have stickers questioning bacon

ham and other pork products?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

24. actually the schools have to notify parents/students

if pork products are used in the preparation of meals for the day.

theProdigal

[Hoping4Change]

26. If that's the case why not go further and have stickers in books that say

the acceptability of pork as a food source is only a theory? I'm wondering how all those hog-sized hog farm owners would feel about that. .:evilgrin:


* BTW I love pork, its my favourite meat but I gave up eating it because pigs are so intelligent and I can't bear to eat something that is smarter than your average repuke

[ProdigalJunkMail]

29. then you must have trouble eating celery, too

:-)

[Hoping4Change]

34. Brillaint. Thanks for the laugh.

:bounce:

[madinmaryland]

31. mmmmmmm, pork chops! n/t

[BBradley]

25. All science should be taught as theory, as a sizable majority of it is.

It should be taught as theory since the moment it's introduced into the curriculum, it should be taught that what science is, is just the best explanation of the moment, and that almost of all of it is incomplete and doesn't cover every situation. When we do this, we won't have to deal with idiotic misrepresentations of what a theory actually is, and have to deal with fundamentalist school boards using their idiotic misconceptions to lessen the importance of the theory of evolution.

[DrWeird]

27. Sure. Let's teach geography and history as theory as well.

Round earth, and the Civil War. I mean, we can't be 100% certain that they're true. I mean, none of us were around during the Civil War to corraborate the stories.

[BBradley]

28. Way to totally misrepresent what I was saying.

Last time I checked, most history is taught as subjective. Not the when and where, but the why. Science is similiar, the phenemenon occur, the explanations are faulty and incomplete, thus they are theories. That's what science is...

[DrWeird]

30. History and science both teach facts.

President Lincoln WAS the president of the United States during the American Civil War. All modern organisms ARE decended from a single common ancestor.

To argue, philosophically, that one is just a "theory" one has to admit that the other is also a theory. To disagree with the factual validity of either statement, in truth, is to display profound ignorance.

And I, for one, don't think we should be teaching kids to be ignorant.

[geniph]

33. "Germ theory is just a belief...

...it's possible that diseases are caused by evil spirits, or bad karma, or unbalanced chi or some such shit."

I wish people who pounce on the "evolution is a THEORY" bandwagon would look up what the words "theory" and "hypothesis" mean in a scientific context, as opposed to what they mean in casual conversation. There is a very specific meaning for "theory." It does not mean Wild-Ass Guess. It does not even mean Scientific Wild-Ass Guess. It does not mean Idea That I Sort Of Pulled Out of My Ass to Fit My Preconceived Notions.