How About Barbara In '08?

[ThomWV]

Would you support a bid by Barbara Boxer for the Presidency in 2008? I certainly would.

Thom

[nickshepDEM]

1. Probably ..... Not

She would get absolutley crushed in the General Election.

[cyclezealot]

3. And a centerist like Kerry did so much better.

Need a candidate to challenge the premise of bush's return to the gilded era..when Robber barrons were king.

[Webster Green]

13. I don't think so.....

She would mop the floor with worm-boy, just like Kerry did! Weather the RW noise machine would allow her to claim the victory is another story.

Four years is a long time and no doubt we will see continuing catastrophe at the hands of BushCo Inc.

By 2008, voters may be real fed-up with smirky's failed war in Iraq (and Lord knows what else). Boxer might be just the candidate they are looking for.

[cyclezealot]

29. Kerry did not mop the floor..

The pundits said Dubya won the second debate...Knowledgeable people knew he did, but the public did not...Kerry lacked confrontration most of the debates...He was an apologist on the war, trade...Trade union members did not come out...as they should have...
A fiery Kerry might have changed that...
Boxer/Dean/Kucinich would throw it right back when Bush repeated his lines..Only reason Kerry won so overwheamingly in the first debate, Bush so flubbed his lines that time.

[cyclezealot]

2. That is exactly what I told her office when I called.

Congratulating her for her courage..So rare that quality is in DC...Told her staff to tell her to run for Prez...On the other hand..California's other senator is a profile in cowardice..Please all call condeming her...Her picture with liar Condolsleezia Rice was nauseating...Bush lost California in a landslide..What a coward Feinstein was..That and refusing to back John Conyers..
Lets get Martin Scheen to challenge Feinstein.

[Nimrod]

4. It would never work

We just went through half of America voting against fags. Just imagine what would happen if a skirt went up for President.

Please don't take my language as a sign I personally oppose such an idea. I'm just saying that America is too fucking stupid for it to be anything other than suicide to try at this point.

[Warpy]

11. As a brownshirted, jackbooted feminist thug, I have

to agree with that assessment. No woman can get elected in this blinkered, pig-ignorant, patriarchal country. Oh, the cities are relatively enlightened, but too much of this country is still filled with rural, salt of the earth types, (Blazing Saddles moment) you know, morons.

What this party needs to do is dump those right wing corporate tools who parade themselves as being centrists and get back to the economic populism that made it so successful in the past. Hell, even Bill Clinton knew that he had to do that to get elected, even if he did govern as a Goldwater Repugoican.

Until and unless the grassroots manages to convince the movers and shakers of this via movements like DFA, the party is doomed to continue losing elections on its pro corporate, anti labor, globalist, Repuglican lite "centrism."

When we do that, perhaps many years down the road we'll be able to run a woman for the office and win. Right now, we can't even consider her for Vice President.

[Nimrod]

16. I like you

:)

Blinkered, pig-ignorant, patriarchal... Indeed. And don't forget elitist - our nation's mindset seems to be that wealth inevitably rewards merit, therefore only the cultural elite are "meritous" enough to lead. Since the only women allowed at country clubs are either arm ornaments or carrying trays... well, you get my meaning.

[phylny]

27. I agree

Unfortunately, I think we are very, very far away from the day when a woman OR an African American could be elected president.

And I would vote for Boxer in a heartbeat. Just ain't happening yet.

:cry:

[emulatorloo]

32. just an aside. . .I am predicting Rove and the Repugs run Condi in 2008

EOM

[Kota]

5. I would love it. I think she is gonna keep getting more and more

support. People are taking notice, not just political junkies.

[napi21]

6. Barbara can't win! I admire her and proud of her, but she's not

a national candidate! I don't want to anger everyone here at Du, but a national candidate HAS to appeal to people across the spectrum of voters. The Dems desperately need the Boxers, and Kennedys! I wish we had more of them, but the outspoken on either side simply can't win in a national election.

[HFishbine]

19. Um, Bush doesn't "appeal to people across the spectrum"

Bush got elected because he motivated a base. The Dems need to do the same and I think Boxer has a better chance than another "nowhere man."

[gonefishing]

7. How about a Clinton/Boxer Ticket?

I would help volunteer for that one.

[Hippo_Tron]

23. Maybe with Boxer on the TOP of the ticket

I'm sorry but there's no sense in having Clinton over Boxer on the top of the ticket. Boxer is more progressive and more idealistic, something that is good. Clinton isn't even close to Boxer's idealism and on top of that is MORE HATED by the Repukes than Boxer is.

[Wabbajack]

8. Fuck yes

the first women nominated for President will win due to an increased female vote. And any man who wouldn't vote for a woman is a repuke anyway.

And we can't afford to pick anyone who isn't a real progressive, no more wishy-washyness. Raygun ran as a committed conservative and won, a liberal can do the same.

[ElkHunter]

9. If the choice were between...

Barbara Boxer and Hillary Clinton then I would certainly support Senator Boxer. Senator Clinton would also be a decent choice, though it looks as though she has decided to take that ever-shifting "middle path" rather than stick with the liberal wing of the party.

[Ian David]

10. ABSOLUTELY!

Just tell me when to start sending money!

[HawkerHurricane]

12. Yes.

But I can think of a lot of people I'd support. It's early yet.

[Up2Late]

14. NO! We need her in the Senate!

The only reason she was able to "Stand Up" against the * Cabal, was because she IS from a "Blue State" with strong Democrat support. :eyes:

We need to find a person (man or woman) who is on the edge, about to get "Attack Advertised" out of office, who has less to lose than Sen. Boxer:grr:

[nostamj]

15. I'm ready!

it's way too early but I certainly support Boxer in the stands she has taken and will be paying CLOSE attention. can't wait to hear her (and BYRD!) rip into Condiliar on tuesday!!!

[JHBowden]

17. I'm for it.

Though I'd like to see what kind of primary campaign she runs, that is, I want to examine the product before I purchase it to get the best deal.

[KharmaTrain]

18. Let's Play Baseball

First...She's a woman...wingnut America cannot have a woman in charge...STRIKE ONE

Two...She's Jewish...wingnut America cannot have a non-christian in charge...STRIKE TWO

Three...she's got far too much conviction and backbone and would never get the weak-kneed Democrats to support her, and then only kicking and screaming...STRIKE THREE

[mandyky]

20. Love Boxer, but

We need someone with executive experience, in other words a former governor. I don't think a woman will get elected either until we get this "war on terror" in perspective.

[Hippo_Tron]

22. Disagree about the woman part

While it's a valid concern, you have to consider that stupid ignorant men vote Republican anyway. Women vote democratic and elections are usually determined by what percentage of women vote democratic. As far as the "war on terror" thing is concerned, Boxer has a tough attitude (as expressed when she GRILLED condi in the hearing). Her attitude can be used to express that she is in no way weak on terror. Our campaigns need two things, they need to have idealism and they need to be run properly. Boxer certainly brings in the idealism. With the right campaign staff, she could win the election.

[Hippo_Tron]

21. I think she can do it, she was elected from California

California is a blue state and a strong blue state, I'll admit. But the fact is that being elected from the biggest state in the country gives you some serious credability. It's not like Boxer was elected from some small state in the Northeast like Rhode Island, or Deleware. She was elected from California the biggest state in the country. BTW I don't see any Republicans saying that they need to run candidates that come from "Blue States".

[CountAllVotes]

24. yes

I'd vote for my senator in a second! :) :) :)

:kick:

[tinonedown]

25. I think she would win in a landslide. Think about it.

Over half the country is already on her side, considering the votes stolen and disenfranchised from '04. And she DOES NOT WAVER. Think how devoted a base we would have. And I'm not talking those already here, but the middle of the road voters that would have something stable to lean on.

[Blue Wally]

30. Democratic base is not homogenous

While Sen Boxer may be a heroine to the DU base, the Democratic Party base includes union workers (and not just the teachers and gummint employees unions) and urbasn residents. They are not attracted to her just because she stood up on Jan 6. The biggest handicap is being a senator with a long record of votes at various stages of legislation in which she might vote one way on an emerging bill and another way on a final bill ("I voted for it before i voted against it"). Any sneator's record is easily twisted in a campaign. Kennedy is the only president in the last 100 years century to go straight from the senate to the presidency. Let's take another look at our successful governors (Warner??).

[greendog]

26. She won't win the Democratic nomination...

...just remember, it starts in Iowa...not California or New York.

[Charlie Brown]

28. I thought this was a Streisand thread LOL

Sure, I'd support Boxer in '08. She's way better than the nominee we'll end up getting (Reid, Clinton, Peloeosi, etc.)

[Rose Siding]

31. Hell yes

She's a leader. But the dems will screw up again and go for the more "electable" candidate. Just look at this thread.

[SmokingJacket]

33. Oh, man! I thought you meant Barbara BUSH!!!

:puke:

[Dookus]

34. I l ove her...

she's been my Senator for a long time. But by the election in 2008, she'll be just shy of her 69th birthday, and will remain a Jewish woman. I don't think that she could win.