Why have they shipped 60 million ballots to Iraq? (just on NBC news)

[karlrschneider]

The population is only ~25 million and I imagine 1/4 or so of those are children/minors.......???

[glitch]

1. Very good question. Ballot stuffing requires plenty of extras - spoilage.

I guess.

Edit to add: I wonder what the total number of ballots printed for the US 2004 election was.

[karlrschneider]

2. I wonder too...but for sure none in many places...Diebold vaporware

:eyes:

[glitch]

3. True - lovely mix of every kind of fraud imaginable = fraWd 2004 nt

[Deja Q]

4. In case 35 million get blown into confetti?

:shrug:

[karlrschneider]

7. Or maybe some "special" people get 4 or 5...

:eyes:

[Botany]

5. E.Z.

It was a no bid "cost plus expenses" contract.

The more ballots ..... the more money some bush crony gets.

:beer:

[greatauntoftriplets]

6. So members of the US military can vote repeatedly???

:shrug:

Hmmm...interesting point. Why, indeed?

[BigBearJohn]

8. They had a lot left over from the 2004 election, slightly used, but

what the heck

[Solly Mack]

9. Were they already marked as well?

[daleo]

10. I suppose a few tens of millions of spares can't hurt.

After all, these are honorable people, and we can trust them.

[AgadorSparticus]

11. they never have been good with that "fuzzy math".

[Bozita]

12. Who printed them? Does Halliburton do printing?

[tanyev]

17. My question too.

Who got that cozy little contract? Couldn't it have been done in Iraq?

[Junkdrawer]

13. Say...You don't think they'd swap real ballots with counterfeits...

You know, since people don't sign ballots and the US military will be in charge of protecting the ballots...

Because that would be cheating, and we all know the Bush Administration NEVER cheats in elections...

[BrklynLiberal]

14. Those are the Democratic ballots that were not counted in the Presidential

election and they are hiding them in Iraq.

[theresistance]

15. A quarter are children/minors!

Try almost HALF THE POPULATION under 17! This was the country attacked by America - a country mainly of children and old people. As for the ballots, very suspicious...

[whistle]

16. 45% are children under 18.....

 <snip>

U.S. Bureau of the Census, International Data Base

Table 094. Midyear Population, by Age and Sex
---------------- --------------- -------------- --------------
----------- -------- -------- ----------- -----------
----------- ------
Country or area/                                              
                                                              
         
Year/                 Population     Population     Population
    Percent  Percent  Percent  Median age  Median age  Median
age    Sex
Age                   both sexes           male         female
 both sexes     male   female  both sexes        male     
female  ratio
---------------- --------------- -------------- --------------
----------- -------- -------- ----------- -----------
----------- ------

Iraq/2004

Total, all ages       25,374,691     12,836,784     12,537,907
      100.0    100.0    100.0        19.2        19.1       
19.3  102.4 
  0-  4                3,811,365      1,938,636      1,872,729
       15.0     15.1     14.9        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  103.5 
  5-  9                3,408,870      1,730,019      1,678,851
       13.4     13.5     13.4        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  103.0 
 10- 14                3,017,904      1,530,311      1,487,593
       11.9     11.9     11.9        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  102.9 
 15- 19                2,917,213      1,480,551      1,436,662
       11.5     11.5     11.5        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  103.1 
 20- 24                2,591,499      1,312,647      1,278,852
       10.2     10.2     10.2        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  102.6 
 25- 29                2,177,642      1,112,190      1,065,452
        8.6      8.7      8.5        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  104.4 
 30- 34                1,869,010        965,624        903,386
        7.4      7.5      7.2        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  106.9 
 35- 39                1,510,394        781,393        729,001
        6.0      6.1      5.8        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  107.2 
 40- 44                  989,843        506,755        483,088
        3.9      3.9      3.9        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  104.9 
 45- 49                  798,966        388,602        410,364
        3.1      3.0      3.3        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)   94.7 
 50- 54                  687,823        329,992        357,831
        2.7      2.6      2.9        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)   92.2 
 55- 59                  475,406        229,410        245,996
        1.9      1.8      2.0        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)   93.3 
 60- 64                  357,059        173,003        184,056
        1.4      1.3      1.5        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)   94.0 
 65- 69                  264,423        126,027        138,396
        1.0      1.0      1.1        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)   91.1 
 70- 74                  223,022        101,496        121,526
        0.9      0.8      1.0        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)   83.5 
 75- 79                  165,264         74,651         90,613
        0.7      0.6      0.7        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)   82.4 
 80+                     108,988         55,477         53,511
        0.4      0.4      0.4        (NA)        (NA)       
(NA)  103.7 
---------------- --------------- -------------- --------------
----------- -------- -------- ----------- -----------
----------- ------
Source: U.S. Bureau of the Census, International 
        Data Base.

<link>  http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbagg

So at the absolute maximum, if every single Iraqi adult votes
the total number of ballots cast can not exceed 13.5 million.
Do they expect 78% spoilage? 

[karlrschneider]

18. I have no idea what "spoilage" might be anticipated but it seems weird

...
:eyes:

[Contrary1]

19. I read in an article that there are an estimated

13.9 million voters in Iraq...That's about 4 each.

[LaReservaPr]

20. This happened in Afghanistan

This is an article from RAWA(Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan)

http://www.rawa.org/election3.htm

Massive fraud in Afghanistan vote
"This election is just for show"

S.W. Online, October 15, 2004
By Eric Ruder


"A REALLY great thing is happening in Afghanistan," George W. Bush declared as elections were held last weekend in the country he conquered. "The people of that country, who just three years ago were suffering under the brutal regime of the Taliban, are going to the polls to vote for president...Freedom is beautiful."

Ordinary Afghanis would use different words to describe the "elections"--like "ugly," "fraud" and "tyranny."

Election day in Afghanistan began with U.S. forces dropping two 2,000- pound bombs that incinerated 25 supposed rebel fighters--leading Major Mark McCann to declare, "I think we're very pleased with the security situation." Hours later, reports of widespread voting fraud were rampant after the indelible ink that was supposed to mark people's hands to keep them from voting multiple times disappeared within minutes in many places. "I saw a man vote six times, I swear," one election observer in Kabul told journalist Christian Parenti. Other reporters said they watched as their drivers voted three and four times.

On top of multiple voting, the reported number of registered voters-- 10.5 million--outnumbers the estimated number of eligible voters, and many people reported lining up for multiple registration cards when they heard that political parties would pay up to $150 for a card, a huge sum of money in a country where many live on $2 a day.

...

[karlrschneider]

21. I recall reading about the selling of voting cards...and Surprise! Karzai

our own puppet wins in a landslide. :grr: