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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:50 PM
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Crawling to the UN is a victory for terrorists......
That the whistleass should have built a UN coalition before invading Iraq is a given, and now that we are in there we must finish the job of really rebuilding Iraq and not bleed it for the oil is also a given

I've heard a couple of Dems demanding more answers before releasing the $87-billion for Iraq... and a few others bash the whistleass on the whole Iraq mess.

Meanwhile,the repugs are dizzy from trying to spin this as an "opportunity" for the UN to join in.

What's agreed by both Dems and repugs is that we have to finish the job or it will be seen as a "defeat"

A few months ago the whistleass spit in the UN face and said we would "go it alone", and we did. Later the whistleass told terrorists in Iraq to "bring it on", and they did... NOW he goes to the UN for help - well, isn't this an admission that we can't go it alone, nor handle the terrorists bringing it on? If so, isn't the whistleass going to the UN for help a VICTORY for terrorists, of sorts?

I'm not saying that we shouldn't go to the UN now, but by taking the "my way or the highway" unilaterist stance before and now going to the UN has greatly underminded what little world respect we did have and this is clearly a "defeat" for us and a "victory" for the terrorists. No matter how you spin it, we've been taken down more than a few pegs

ok flame away
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:52 PM
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1. I would suggest...
that the US force Haliburton, Kellogg & Brown & Root to account for the money that the US has given them so far. If 90% of the money was bounced back to the RNC warchest, then the RNC warchest has to be seized and given back to the people of the United States for domestic purposes.

This out-of-control spending of the Iraq quagmire has to cease. As a matter of fact, I would call for an entire withdrawal of the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and let the countries deal with their own problems and give them $8 billion EACH as a one-time payment to form their own government, re-seize their resources and sell as appropriate.

Hawkeye-X
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:55 PM
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2. Check out Chomsky's "Distorted Morality"
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 03:57 PM by ixion
The US and Israeli governments commit more acts of state-sponsored terror than any other group.

We should be ashamed of ourselves. 'Finishing the job' as you put it, will change nothing. Admitting our duplicity, and beginning to make amends for decades of state sponsored terrorism is the only way we will ever be able to coexist in peace, IMHO.

Frankly, the Bush cabal really screwed up invading Iraq. If bringing the UN in would be seen as 'defeat', then so be it.



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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:58 PM
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3. I really don't give a flying f*ck
whether or not the US war against the people of Iraq is seen as a defeat. It was certainly a mistake. The bottom line is that the US destroyed the country in an unprovoked attack, it is the responsibility of the US to 'fix' what they have done.

How is the US going to the UN a victory for the terrorists? You think the US being 'taken down a few pegs' is a bad thing? I don't.

bush should have to go before the UN and offer a public apology to France, Germany, Russia, the millions of protesters , the UN and most importantly the victims of the US invasion in Iraq. Then the US should step aside and allow the UN to control the rebuilding and the establishment of a new government.
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:06 PM
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5. Could the thugs have planned it?
I wonder if they have planned to get the other countries to clean up the mess after they take what they want. I am ashamed too.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:45 PM
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6. yep, I agree completely
he should get down on his hands and knees and beg forgiveness for his arrogance. As long as he tries to dictate the terms of his rescue, I think the UN should tell him to take a long walk on a short pier, as it were.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:04 PM
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4. wish I was better at drawing political cartoons
not my forte.... soooooo, if anyone out there has the talent

first panel - whistleass dressed up like a little cowboy on a rocking horse, rocking horse is labeled Iraq

second panel - whistleass takes out his pop gun and a baseball bat, pummels the hobby horse into pieces

third panel - whistleass dumps the pieces before an adult figure (labeled UN) and says "it's broken, you fix it"
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