My Nephew Just Got His Selective Service Card In The Mail.

[B. P. R. D.]

He is as anti-Bush as any DUer, and doesn't want to be used as cannon fodder in an unjust war. He wants to go to a pretty expensive university but can't get any FAFSA money if he isn't registered. What should he do?

[GRLMGC]

1. Isn't it against the law not to? nt

[Stand and Fight]

2. Yes it is...

Yes, it is against the law not to register with the Selective Service.

[Kerrytravelers]

8. Wait, wait, wait...

a draft card? Like, a real, honest to God (or honest to whatever) draft notice that shows up to fight in "Operation Force Democracy on the World or Blow themUp", this farce of *? When, oh when, did this draft get started? I thought they were only "whispering" of it...

Please tell me I totally misread your post and I'm a stupid idiot. Believe me, I'll feel better than if there really is a draft.

[Dookus]

3. draft card?

There are no draft cards. There's no draft. There's registration.

[meisje]

4. Well, Since there is no draft...

What about loans?

[BlueEyedSon]

5. DRAFT CARD? Is there a draft I don't know about???

[Stand and Fight]

11. Nope....

LOL...
There is no draft... :silly:

[NNguyenMD]

6. I think all 18 year olds have to sign up for the selective service, but

maybe it could just be something linked to financial aid.

[Stand and Fight]

9. Yes they do...

And if you don't you can be denied federal financial aid for not registering... PLUS, it is a crime to NOT register with the Selective Service.

[dflprincess]

29. Not all 18 year olds - only males

I fill out the FAFSA forms for 2 of my nieces and one of the questions specifically asks males if they have registered with SS.

[Stand and Fight]

7. One big point you're missing!

It is NOT a draft card. It is registration through Selective Service. I know because I had to register... Of course after five years in the Army, it doesn't matter anymore for me.

[Kerrytravelers]

12. Thank God,

I thought maybe I'd fallen asleep and woken up a year later! Whew!

However, Selective Service sucks, too. No amount of government money is worth that possibility... borrow from private lenders, they can't recruit you!

[tx_dem41]

15. The loss of financial aid would be the least of his worries...

its against the law not to register.

[Stand and Fight]

16. Nopers...

You're no van Winkle! However, failure to register is a crime. Here you go:

What happens if I don't register?

* A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years. Even if not tried, a man who fails to register with Selective Service before turning age 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed.
* Registration is required for student financial aid, citizenship (if the man arrived before age 26), federal job training and federal jobs. Some states have additional penalties for failure to register.

See: http://www.govspot.com/shortcuts/selectiveservice.htm

[Kerrytravelers]

27. I guess I'm lucky to be a member of the "fairer" sex...

I'd heard of the Select Service, but I thought this was strictly limited to those who wanted government loans.

Wow.

I leaned something new today.

[Berserker]

10. I believe he has to register

check here http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm

[Renew Deal]

13. Register

He will have to sooner or later. Take the FAFSA.

[mahina]

14. ? Registration notice?

Are you sure its his draft card?
???

[Stand and Fight]

17. It's a registration notice... Jesus...

Calm down people. It just means that he registered like he was supposed to or that -- your post is sketchy -- he needs to register.

[mahina]

26. I am calm.

I asked if it was a registration notice.
It's obviously not a draft card.
pth

[JVS]

18. He should register, because if he doesn't he can't do what he wants to do

[prolesunited]

19. Its just the Selective Service notice

so it's easier to round them up later. I love how they title this section "benefits."

From the site:
Registration is the law. A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years.

Even if not tried, a man who fails to register with Selective Service before turning age 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed.

STUDENT FINANCIAL AID
Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

CITIZENSHIP
The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) makes registration with Selective Service a condition for U.S. citizenship if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

FEDERAL JOB TRAINING
The Workforce Investment Act (formerly called the Job Training Partnership Act - JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service. This applies only to men born after December 31, 1959.

FEDERAL JOBS
A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. This applies only to men born after December 31, 1959.

http://www.sss.gov/FSbenefits.htm

[ultraist]

25. Exactly! It's just a list so they can round them up later.

And it is illegal for men NOT to sign up to put their names onto the "list".

[DemExpat]

20. My 20 year old son just registered last week.

Over our dead bodies will he ever be drafted, but we didn't want him to jeopardize his US citizenship or being able to travel to the States.

DemEx

[Stand and Fight]

21. CHANGE THE THREAD TITLE!

Change the title of your thread... It is not a frickin' draft card. It's a registration card.... You're freaking people out!
See the following links:
http://www.sss.gov/Default.htm
http://www.govspot.com/shortcuts/selectiveservice.htm

[karlrschneider]

22. Wow, there's a lot of idiot panic from your post. If he got a "card" it

means he is ALREADY registered. In some states it is done automatically when the driver's license is issued. It's not the same thing as a draft NOTICE (which currently do not exist.) The card will have his basic identification and a Selective Service number, all of which -can- be used when or if conscription is put back in force.

[Stand and Fight]

24. You've got that right! n/t

[LeftyMom]

23. Options as I see them

1. Submit Selective Service card, hope for the best.

2. Submit card, prepare CO file in case it's needed. (Mark that he's a CO on the card and save a copy.)

3. Wait to register until he's almost 26. Pursue private finacial aid.

4. Choose not to register, pursue private financial aid.

I'd encourage my son to go with option three or two (in that order of preference) but I'd respect his decision if he chose otherwise.

[McCamy Taylor]

28. Are women required to register? If not, why has no one sued ?

Requiring men and not women to register would be sex descrimination. If thisis the current situation, I hope that someone gets on the case right now. I can think of no better way to stop the draft than to make it apply to both sexes.