DU this MSNBC Poll: Do you think Democrats are "playing politics"....

[sabra]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/

Do you think Democrats are "playing politics" with Condoleezza Rice's nomination?

* 3621 responses

Yes 52%
No 48%

[Kota]

1. Done.

[fryguy]

2. what's wrong with playing politics?

makes it sound like being political and taking a stand is a bad thing - we shouldn't let them dictate the message this way. its the same thing as when the repukes lable someone an "activist" judge, when in actuality thier iconic jurists are no less "activist" but are not so labled and therefore skews the whole debate....

so yes, democrats are political, just as repukes are political, and are seeking to influence and change the system in a political manner....so what's wrong with that?

[Name removed]

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[ooglymoogly]

25. the next pol will be 'have the dems stopped beating their wives'

yes or no

[itzamirakul]

4. Done! Results have not changed....n/t

[sabra]

5. Looking better - 9:21 Central

* 4240 responses

Yes 51%
No 49%

[ignu]

16. go figure.... n/t

[Hugin]

6. I say it's about time.

PLAY BALL!

BATTER UP!

[sabra]

7. I agree!

But it appears MSNBC might be trying to spin it...

[Hugin]

21. Yeah...

Their polls are so wishy-washy these days.

I voted the party line... "no".

[moggie12]

8. Done -- thanks for posting that n/t

[Yuugal]

9. done

51-49 now

[NewJeffCT]

11. done

Also is 51-49.

[blm]

10. Poll:Was Rice derelict of duty for NOT reading the Hart-Rudman Report on

Global Terror that was handed to her and to Bush on Jan.30, 2001?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

12. did it

[karynnj]

13. Voted, wrote message

Essentially, asked why it's unusual to ask a person wanting a job what they did in their past job and what in hind sight they would do differently. (esp when she was one of the people who led us into a disasterous war of choice)

[aden_nak]

14. Only REPUBLICANS can play politics with national security. Duh.

[MaineYooper]

15. done and kick. nt

[FreeStateDemocrat]

17. Now down to 51% Yes

[Immad2]

18. done - need lots of help on this one

Do you think Democrats are "playing politics" with Condoleezza Rice's nomination? * 5227 responses

Yes
51%
No
49%

[flpoljunkie]

19. Their charge is "advise and consent"--not, "rubberstamp!"

Dissent is treason with this crowd and the media are GOP/corporate lapdogs!

[AlCzervik]

20. I hate that phrase

How about..."does M$NBC pander to the gop"

[LuCifer]

22. Still 51% for yes

Oh, so the DEMS are playing politics! Excuse me, I have to go laugh for 3 solid hours! Pweh! Much better! Ok, where were we? Oh yeah, the DEMS are playing politics? Kiss my ass! No, it goes like THIS: the republiKKKans are playing THE RACE CARD. Period, case closed.

Lu Cifer, neo-KKKons aren't entirely useless...I love a moving target...
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http://www.MidnightCalling.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LeftWingRadicals/join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SternAndMore/join
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http://www.TheRandiRhodesShow.com

PS Edit: So, it was ok for the repukes to play politics screwing up the Clinton health care plan so their phramecitical ass-buddies could rape us some more? Cute.

[Mixxster]

23. Right now...

it's 50% - 50%.

[peacetalksforall]

24. This one has a no win wording. NBC can spin it very easily.

[spanone]

26. Well, she lied and thousands died. If that's politics......

[Fleurs du Mal]

27. No 49%

[Dawgs]

28. How about...

Should Rice be scrutinized by everyone for fucking up 9/11 and the Iraq war?

Hell YES she should, ya bitches!!!!

[Stirk]

29. No. And that's the damn problem.

I would like to see them "play politics" with everything. You know- behace like an opposition party?

[Dawgs]

30. I'm sorry...

This is fucking ridiculous. Why are the Dems getting attacked for questioning those that started the Iraq war? Don't most people agree that the Iraq war was(is) a fucking disaster? Didn't this war cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars?

It's like Randi Rhodes always says, 'Why are they going after Dan Rather when he used a fraudulent document... and not the President when he used a fraudulent document to take us to war? Rather's document was at least based on some truth. Everyone now knows that Bush's mistake(LIE) cost us lives and billions of dollars'

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. It's tied! Go vote!

Do you think Democrats are "playing politics" with Condoleezza Rice's nomination? * 9470 responses


Yes
50% No
50%

[yurbud]

32. Post comment too! (Here's mine)

There are legitimate questions about why she ignored the warnings before 9/11 from our intelligence services and foreign countries, Operation Bojinka a foiled terrorist plot to fly planes into buildings in the 90s, and that the G8 summit the summer before was protected with anti-aircraft batteries to prevent just such an attack. Hell, the pilot episode of the Lone Gunman TV series had an airliner flying into the World Trade Center the previous winter http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/lonegunmen.html
Similarly, NORAD was running a wargame about a hijack scenario THAT day.

In addition to her incompetence or worse before 9/11, she lied to the American people about Saddam's WMD and what he would do with them.

Asking questions about all that is not political stalling, it's crucial to our democracy. Congress should actually debate these things not just rubber stamp whatever Bush wants. We spent eight years debating Bill Clinton's sex life. An afternoon on lies that led us into war and killed people is the least we can do.

[blueblitzkrieg]

33. DONE - still tied nt

[devinsgram]

34. No

They are being responsible. Something repubs do not no anything about.

[Auntie Bush]

35. Just voted......It's 50-50 now.

[AgadorSparticus]

36. done.

[G_j]

37. BUT

most Dems who vote YES ARE

[TWiley]

38. 50% - 50%

Do you think the republicraps were playing "politics" with the war in Iraq?

[geniph]

39. Um, yes, they are. That's what we elected them to do.

That's why they're called "politicians." Politics is their job.

Next NBC poll - do you think physicians are playing doctor?! The horror, the horror.

I can't believe the things that suddenly get turned into pejorative terms. BI-ZARRE.

[Fescue4u]

40. They had BETTER be

Not playing politics when you in politics, is like not playing football in a football game.

[Maine-ah]

41. done

still 50-50

[andlor]

42. Done.

50%-50%

[justiceischeap]

43. My Letter to MSNBC

Democrats are only doing what they are supposed to, ask tough questions about, what Senator Warner claims to be the "most important cabinet position" in the government. One thing that Senator Boxer has done much more successfully than journalists are highlight the lies and inconsistencies in Rice's statements about going to war in Iraq. Maybe if you and your fellow journalists had been asking these questions all along, we wouldn't be asking this particular question today.

[Robbien]

46. Very good point

The Senators have to do the journalists' job.

[lawladyprof]

44. My comment

Either she was incompetent or lied both about the warnings before 9-11 and the danger from Saddam Hussein. One or the other--either incompetence or prevarication. Logically, it cannot be any other way. Regarding 9-11, either she/they knew or they didn't know. If they knew, then they are lying and if they didn't know they are incompetent. Regarding the war, if she (they) had been competent they would have discovered the intelligence was bogus or if they knew the intelligence was hyped then she/they lied.
What burns me is that if the work of our intelligence services was so flawed regarding 9-11 why on earth would you trust it just 18 months later to go to war.

[SoCalDem]

45. So.. during WWII, the people who "knew what Htler was up to"...and

spoke out, were "Playing Politics" too?

Were the Republicans "playing politics" when they blocked most of Clinton's appointments?

when they shot down universal healthcare, instead of honestly debating it?

when they "crucified" Clinton for personal infidelity issues?

when they deliberately lied about the war?


The real question is THIS..


Why does the press call it "obstruction" if it's Democrats staying true to THEIR principles?

When republicans toss sticks into the spokes of government in a Democratic majority government, it's just called "hardball politics"..

Iam running out of patience for a doltish media that doesn't realize that it IS politics, and ALL participants "play politics".. For the public it's no freaking GAME.. It may be great fun for a bunch of fatcat politicians (of both parties) to sit around and "tweak" programs...but at the end of the day, there are desperate people who may have to decide on whether to choose the Fridgidare box or the Maytag box as a home....or which shelter is closer or safer for their kids.:(

[mevans426]

47. It's a fact of life

Sadly, it seems like we're going to have to accept the fact that the mainstream media is intimidated by Republicans and will bend over backwards to follow their line to avoid being called liberal. You'd think they would catch on that never, under any circumstances, will Republicans stop calling the media liberal, but that obviously hasn't happened yet.

All the more reason for everyone to support independent media whenever and however they can...

[itzamirakul]

48. Kick!

[ebayfool]

49. Yes 48% No 52% 51659 responses ... It's swapped around now! n/t