CONTINUATION OF PEACE PATRIOT'S THREAD ON RICE HEARING

[Catamount]

For Faye!

[sniffa]

1. he threatened her?

awesome!

[New Earth]

3. that's not nice

i didnt' say anything

[Catamount]

4. LOL.....If only

[New Earth]

2. woot

thank you!

i hope i'm watching the right thing...a Republican senator (Mitch McConnell?) is speaking right now, right?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

5. yep nt

[Catamount]

8. Yes that's it ! Yawn!

I'm trying to watch some tennis, he gives me the opportunity

[Peace Patriot]

6. Go here...

Go here for reports and discussion on this morning's speeches (Dayton was wonderful!):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=303547&mesg_id=303547

Go here for live coverage:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

Go here for Senators' tel, email, fax. Call/Email TODAY to support Boxer, Dayton, Kennedy, Bayh, Levin and others!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=296466

[Peace Patriot]

10. This is the problem with switching forums...

Yes, McConnell is speaking in favor of Rice. Next speaker likely to be Byrd. All this info is at the other forum.

See my post above. We're going to lose people and cause confusion. I'm going back to the orginal forum (see "Go here" above.)

[New Earth]

11. grr

by the time i get finished reading one post, load the page again, another 10 posts are there....whateverk sorry to waste your time Catamount, thanks anyway.

[Catamount]

13. No worries!

[Peace Patriot]

53. Oh, they locked it. So here I am, back here.

It's best, I guess, not to have to keep re-loading all that, with every post. But I hated to lose the urls for new people joining to go to C-Span, and to the Senators' contact info we posted in the initial forum. So I posted them here. And the comments. So go to that forum to read all that was said about the first speeches.

I tried to go back there just now, to get the url, and it's all gone! Where are the earlier comments?

[New Earth]

7. you might want to make this in all caps

people are starting multiple threads on it :(

[Catamount]

9. Done

[Catamount]

12. Byrd on now

[life_long_dem]

14. What did Sadasshole have to gain by attacking the U.S.?

He was in his OWN heaven, why would he care about the U.S? That's why I can never believe he was EVER a threat to us. When the TRUTH finally comes out, I believe it will ONLY have to do with * * establishing MILITARY DOMINANCE in the Middle East.

OIL, OIL, OIL. Spread FEAR, FEAR, FEAR.

"MIHOP". Why are most Americans so BLIND?

Sorry for venting, but this Administration winds me up.

[JoMama49]

16. He's asking how Secretary Rice could assert that the

president has more power than the Constitution to declare pre-emptive war. He is really kicking butt! Dr. Rice is responsible for some of the most over-blown rhetoric ever used in this country! Now giving details.

[icehenge]

15. Request

I'm at work right now,

Can someone make notes of who speaks out against Rice.

Also if someone can record it i'd love to see that
later tonight also.

[JoMama49]

17. Now he's quoting her smoking gun = a mushroom cloud

speech to put "fear" into the American prople and get them to go along with a pre-emptive strike!

[JoMama49]

18. How anyone could vote to confirm Dr. Rice after hearing Senator

Byrd's words is beyond my comprehension! He's laying it all out for us, with quotes to back up his words. A yes vote for Condi proves their stupidity and gullibility BIG TIME!

[mirrera]

19. Their world is scared of Sponge Bob...

A whole different paradigm...kind of like FICTION!

[JoMama49]

20. It occurs to me that Senator Byrd has been saving up for a

long time for this moment! He has it all documented and sounds as if he has just been waiting for this day to make his delivery! Now he's talking about how many troops have been wounded (over 10,000) and how much $ we're spending on this unnecessary war. Now he's mentioning that * is going to ask Congress for another $80 million!? And, the level of violence only keeps growing, and no admin. official has made any prediction about an engame.

[mirrera]

21. Woah... a hint of 9/11 stuff

There is SO much he could bring up. I really don't know how they even dare put her forward

[Catamount]

22. And now he's talking about Richard Clark!

He's right on target,
unfortunately too many dems are voting for her anyway!

[Catamount]

23. CSpan shows this later tonight and other times too.....

Also you can find it in their archives.
Peacepatriot has a thread with all dems voting no so far,
I think they are:
Kerry
Boxer
Kennedy
Levin
Dayton
And Byrd (I imagine)

[New Earth]

24. am i the only one

that turns the volume down on the Republicans? :D

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. I predict Hagel will vote NO.

(eternal optimist)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. Never mind ! Hey this is the guy who they predict will be the

Repug nominee - George Allen R-VA

[JoMama49]

27. Hagel voted yes and encouraged his colleagues to vote

for her too. I don't understand their oft used argument "She has the confidence of the President"? Why is that an endorsement? The so-called President is an ever bigger liar than she is. Does that mean she'll support his lies 100%? That's no reason to confirm someone in my way of thinking!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. You're right ! Also, what I think is funny is that they say she

supports his ideas blindly. He doesn't have any friggin ideas. They should be saying that she supports Rove and Cheney blindly.

[Catamount]

28. No girl, you're not! n/t

[meganmonkey]

30. I've been pausing at times to get work done

and then I can skip throught the Repukes :D

[Catamount]

33. I can't wait for Boxer!

That should be good!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. ????? Oh, that was for Faye. Thought you were telling me

that I wasn't an eternal optimist:)

[phylny]

64. Heh - just did :) n/t

[understandinglife]

31. Yahoo -- vote it up

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050125/ap_on_go_co/senate_rice



BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION;24/7

[Catamount]

34. Do you mean the story? If so it's done!

[darkworkz]

35. What have the Republicans actually said?

What in fact have the Republican's said in support of Condi? Bush wants her and we're duty bound to give the pResident what ever he wants?

How is this sound logic? By their own words, what purpose are the Republicans serving in the Senate today? A rubber stamp?

There are mission critical issues that must / will be dealt with in the immediate and near future (i.e. energy, financial) How have the republicans distinguished themselves and positioned themselves for those greater matters that loom on our horizon?

Could it be that hollow empty words are ringing throughout the halls of Congress right now? And Karl has proven once again the inability to alter the course of the "wind"?

[Catamount]

36. So True and Sad! n/t

[darkworkz]

43. nope, not sad

I propose that it is not sad. In fact the Republicans, through their "brain" Karl, have put on display their full undisguised nature for all to see. This is a good thing. This is the second time in 1 month that they've had an opportunity to stand before the cameras and declare their fitness to run all branches of government. Their words have failed their rhetoric once again.

They've exposed themselves as empty vessels and there's no recovery from that. The only thing they can do is wait for the proverbial "other shoe to drop." And they know it's coming.

I suggest more letters. The more sent, the greater their exposure.

Listen to Boxer. She'll tell you the same thing that you've just read.

[Catamount]

38. Boxer on now!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Yuck - George Allen. That was a soundbite ! The opposition is

not hurting her credibility - SHE DID THAT herself.

[RaulVB]

39. George Allen, THE REPUBLICAN, said that? (n/t)

[JoMama49]

40. Okay, Boxer up now! She's telling * he's not a dictator!!

She says the founding fathers had a good reason for having the Senate discuss and determine whether his nominees for cabinet positions should or should not be confirmed! She's quoting from the Constitution, Article 2. She says we need checks and balances, that's what the founding fathers intended!!! You go Barbara!

[alexisfree]

42. finally some one said the "d" word.

[RaulVB]

46. Yes, FINALLY! (n/t)

[Catamount]

50. She also acknowledged all the tens of thousands of people...

who signed her petition.
We should all feel proud!;-)

[helderheid]

51. I'm super proud!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. No. He chastised the Democrats who were criticizing Condi -

said that they should hold back because she will lose credibility in the world by their statements.


She, rather than Democrats, ruined her own credibility is my comment

[RaulVB]

44. Oh, Ok. Screw him (n/t)

[JoMama49]

45. Boxer hitting every nail on its head! Now talking about the War

Says that's what matters to the American people!

[JoMama49]

48. Now she's displaying her charts - Condi's quotes from T.V.

shows from one year to the next -- contradicting herself and contradicting the President!

[helderheid]

47. How many people have to die? How many people have to be wounded?

Thanks Barbara!

[alexisfree]

49. she pull out the rons picture!!!

Pic of Rummy and Saddam!!

[Catamount]

52. Lamar Alexander surprisingly crtitical of *

[Peace Patriot]

54. Moderator, please, where are all the comments from this morning?

They just seem to have been disappeared! I can't find them! I wrote original reports there of the morning speeches.

This url is blank (the morning forum that I started)--it had over 100 comments.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=303547

[Catamount]

55. I was looking for that too, how can it disappear ?

[meganmonkey]

56. Click on the thread and follow the link provided

Looks like it got moved to GP Politics - not sure why it did and others didn't...?!

[New Earth]

57. that's the only thing i don't like about this forum

i am so used to being here, and the people here, i want to talk about this kind of stuff with the people here, like the hearings, etc. but they are always moved to GD :scared:

grrrr

[New Earth]

58. come on man

this sucks. i don't feel comforable in this forum.

grrrrr

[helderheid]

59. I agree

[New Earth]

60. see?

now everyone stopped posting. :grr:

[Peace Patriot]

61. This shutdown of an active post, and moving of it elsewhere is SO...

...DISTRACTING. We were doing live reporting on the speeches! MODERATOR, what gives!

I've lost so much time. Couldn't report on Boxer and Durbin, hunting around for the original post. Where is it?

[New Earth]

63. i don't know

it is very frustrating and i am trying not to say something i don't mean.

[Catamount]

65. I can see how this topic is not REALLY relevant in the former 2004 ele.

forum, but on the upside, I'm discovering so many other cool peeps.
Keep smiling:-)

[Catamount]

66. I think it's in General political!

I am so sorry if this is my fault peace patriot, but your original thread was ssooooo long.
I hope you find it, it is there I saw it.
By the way do you know how Durbin voted?

[New Earth]

67. your thread is probably in this forum too

it wasn't shut down just because this thread was made, all "off topic" threads were moved here. :(

[Peace Patriot]

68. Go to...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1528855

...for all the morning reports on speeches. I will try to continue live reports on the speeches there, and will try to catch up. The moderator suddenly transferred us to GP Politics.

DUers who have been following this matter for weeks, and who have worked so hard for this moment, will have to hunt around, like I have, for the orignal post today as the debate began.

[Catamount]

62. I just came back, ----it is very strange outside our usual forum....Does

anyone know how Durbin voted?

[Catamount]

69. Warner sucks big time!