*We* embody the REAL "traditional values", do we not?

[Zomby Woof]

I never quite got a handle on what the fascists are blabbering about when they go off on being the purveyors of "traditional values". One of them even has a damned "coalition", as if their ill-defined notions are endangered. Fuck that.

They throw that phrase around so often, I guess they hope it will stick if they repeat it often enough. It just sounds good because who would want to argue against values, especially if given the aura of permanence when deemed 'traditional'?

Notice how they never define the term, or if pressed to, they define it by what they hate and fear? They define themselves by what they are against, not what they are for. Reactionary, thy name is wingnutter.

So I will define some. Here are some traditional values I can get behind:

Feeding the hungry.

Healing the sick.

Helping someone get a step up in life when it deals them a bad hand or two.

Working with dignity and a livable wage.

Protecting the only habitat we have - the third stone from the sun.

Knowing that "Liberty" isn't just a cute word on your coins - it means allowing people to live their lives as they see fit, when they harm no one else. The freedom of self-fulfillment.


Plenty more, so name some!

[proud patriot]

1. Yep , did you see this ZombyWoof ?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7126.htm

[Zomby Woof]

2. I hadn't seen that, ProudP!

Thanks for hooking me up! :hi:

[proud patriot]

5. you bet

:hug:

[MuseRider]

3. Celebrating diversity.

To me that is a HUGE thing and it opens up so much. I want both sides of the issues so we can learn and do our best. I want people different than me around so I can learn other things. I want there to be many life forms other than humans around. Diversity in all things. All the things you said make life worth living. Living a life the way they seem to want us to live doesn't sound like much of a life to me.

[XanaDUer]

4. Of course we are, ZW

except those freaking narcissistic sociopaths *think* they are the the values crew.

How about the importance of the arts in a well-rounded education, and arts for the sake of arts?

Recognizing that schools, hospitals, universities, libraries are NOT businesses and should not be run like them, nor held up as lacking next to what these morons consider the superiority of for-profit everthing?

[MuseRider]

6. Great points.

I like that, was not thinking in that direction.

[XanaDUer]

7. Well, I'm a former

underpaid civil servant who has had this let's-run-it-like-a-business crap thrown at me in three different public library systems.

Thanks.

[salin]

8. Education - freed from barriers to higher education

eg supporting the idea of meritocracy where all have equity of opportunity...

[Robbien]

9. Isn't it sad that all their propaganda

makes this even a question?

[Dark]

10. They're called the beatitudes, and gays & abortion isn't in them.