Does anyone have the Goebbels/Nazi qoutes.......

[Kingshakabobo]

Regarding telling the big lie.....

and starting a war and calling anyone who disagrees unpatriotic?


Thanking you in advance, oh wise DUers.

(I tried to google them)

[happynewyear]

1. Here is one from Goering ...

"Hermann Goering said, "It is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. That is easy. All you have to tell them is that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.""

Maybe this helps?

DTC

:kick:

[deutsey]

2. Goering said the thing about being unpatriotic

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

[joefree1]

3. How about Hermann Goering?

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
--Hitler's #2 Man, Hermann Goering

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

4. Do you mean this one (Goering)

"It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." --Hermann Goering

[hopein08]

5. Here you go....

The first one I included is Goebbels and the second is Goerring. I'm not sure which it is that you're looking for (or even if it is either of these) but I thought I'd put them both just in case. Hope I could help!

"This ability to believe is rather weak in some circles, above all in those with money and education. They may trust more in pure cold reason than a glowing idealistic heart. Our so-called intellectuals do not like to hear this, but it is true anyway. They know so much that in the end they do not know what to do with their wisdom. They can see the past, but not much of the present, and nothing at all of the future. Their imagination is insufficient to deal with a distant goal in a way such that one already thinks it achieved.

They were also unable to believe in the victory of National Socialism while the National Socialist movement was still fighting for power. They are as little able today to believe in the greatness of our national German future. They perceive only what they can see, but not what is happening, and what will happen.

That is why their carping criticisms generally focus on laughable trivialities. Whenever some unavoidable difficulty pops up, the kind of thing that always happens, they are immediately inclined to doubt everything and to throw the baby out with the bath water. To them difficulties are not there to be mastered, rather to be surrendered to."

- Joseph Goebbles, New Years Eve 1938





"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."


- Hermann Goering, April 18, 1946, while awaiting the Nuremberg trials.

[joefree1]

6. The Big Lie qoute is from Hitler

The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.
Adolf Hitler

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[Kingshakabobo]

15. A big thank you and a cupie doll. n/t

[rman]

7. Hitler "big lie" quote:

"The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."
- Adolf Hitler

[rman]

8. while we're at it, Goebbels on the "formation of public opinion"

"It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion."
- Joseph Goebbels

[yurbud]

9. Full Big Lie quote

In view of the primitive simplicity of their minds they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big.


Such a falsehood will never enter their heads and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others; yes, even when enlightened on the subject, they will long doubt and waver, and continue to accept at least one of these causes as true.


-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, part I chapter X

[TO Kid]

12. Many have taken that to heart

Just look at all the BS about global warming. When confronted with the truth most people dismiss it as corporate propaganda and/or shoot the messenger. Look what happened to Bjorn Lomborg.

[yurbud]

13. Disinforpedia: Lomborg unscientific (probably corporate shill)

People actually check stuff here.

This guy was not an expert in the relevant fields, and his work didn't stand up to scientific review. The only people who seemed to embrace it were those who had a vested interest in it being true.

I would be curious to see a legitimate dissenting view on something like global warming, but this aint it.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Bjorn_Lomborg


Participating in a panel on the Earthbeat program, Dr Tom Burke, a member of the Executive Committee of Green Alliance in the UK and an environmental adviser to Rio Tinto and BP, challenged the suggestion that that made Lomborg an environmentalist: "That doesn't make you an environmentalist Bjorn, I mean that would make me a statistician because I've done some calculations".

The extensive and uncritical acceptance of Lomborg's claims prompted a reaction from many in the scientific community. In January 2002 Scientific American's editor, John Rennie, wrote the preface to a ten page critique written by four specialists. Rennie commented that "the errors described here, however, show that in its purpose of describing the real state of the world, the book is a failure". <2>



Lomborg and the Danish Committee for Scientific Dishonesty


The concern over Lomborg's misrepresentation of the science was so great that three complaints were lodged with the Danish Committee for Scientific Dishonesty, which Lomborg describes as "a national review body, with considerable authority". <8>

The committee found "the publication is deemed clearly contrary to the standards of good scientific practice". <9> They stated "there has been such perversion of the scientific message in the form of systematically biased representation that the objective criteria for upholding scientific dishonesty ... have been met".

In the wake of the decision the conservative Danish Prime Minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, requested a review of the work of the Institute for Environmental Valuation (IEV) which Lomborg had been appointed to head in February 2002. <10>

Subsequently, the Danish government appointed a panel of five scientists to evaluate the reports produced by IEV. In August 2003 the committee announced that "the panel must conclude that none of the reports represent scientific work or methods in the traditional scientific sense". <11>

[yurbud]

10. Hitler on GOP domestic policy

"Through clever and constant application of propaganda people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."

-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, part I chapter X

[yurbud]

11. Hitler on why they didn't bother to plant WMD in Iraq

I shall give a propagandist cause for starting the war never mind whether it be plausible or not. The victor shall not be asked later on whether we told the truth or not.


Adolf Hitler, speech to inner circle, Aug. 22, 1939

[RUDUing2]

14. a speech you will find interesting

http://kucinich-oregon.us/archives/kucinichworldpeace/000326.html
Almost 65 years ago, the Nazis' rule in Germany was threatened by the Social Democratic party, which opposed Adolf Hitler's foreign policy and even began to oppose Hitler himself. To counter this, Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels addressed a crowd of Germans. With 25 Nazi swastika flags flying behind him, he told an excited, appreciative crowd:

I ask which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone to best protect us?

The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you tonight.

There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust our future and that man's name is Adolf Hitler.

There are some crazy men who would kill us if they could. So Adolf Hitler has told us, "All private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense repealed by an overriding public danger."

But where is the national unity in this country when we need it most?

Now, while young Germans are dying in the mud in Czechoslovakia and the mountains of Poland, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Social Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our Führer.

What has happened to the nation I've spent my life working in?

I can remember when Social Democrats believed that it was the duty of Germany to fight for freedom over tyranny.

Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Germans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.

Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Social Democratic leaders see Germany as an occupier, not a liberator.

And nothing makes me madder than someone calling German troops occupiers rather than liberators.

Tell that to the Czechs, Poles, Frenchmen, and Belgians who have been freed because Adolf Hitler led an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the millions of men, women and children who are free today from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to the Balkans, because Adolf Hitler built a military of liberators, not occupiers.

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the German soldier. And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home.

Right now the world just cannot afford an indecisive Germany. Fainthearted, self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.

In this hour of danger our Führer has had the courage to stand up. And I am proud to stand up with him.

God Bless this great country and God bless Adolf Hitler.


also by Mark Twain
" How you can win the population for war: At first, the statesman will invent cheap lying, that impute the guilt of the attacked nation, and each person will be happy over this deceit, that calm the conscience. It will study it detailed and refuse to test arguments of the other opinion. So he will convince step for step even therefrom that the war is just and thank God, that he, after this process of grotesque even deceit, can sleep better.
- Mark Twain

[unpossibles]

16. wow.

well, now we know where Dumbya's speech writers gets their material...

the parallels are almost too easy to draw. So how come when this is brought up, or when it's mentioned that a lot of German's fell for his lies, no one wants to listen? Are people so afraid of being made to look foolish?

There are still neo-Nazis who refuse to believe that the holocaust happened despite evidence and first-hand witnesses. It saddens me to no end.