The day I knew I was just an ordinary Democrat, and that ain't a bad thing

[Psychoblues99]

I don't get into the tinfoil hat thing. I don't believe for a second that "most" do. I embrace income and therefore respect governmental responsibilities with my contributions. I abhor argument for the sake of argument but I do dig new angles on old subjects. I love my fellow man, the rather common man, the folks that pay the bills and get on with their lives. I also love politics. The mysteries and mechanics of living legislation intrigues me almost to titillation.

I'm a bluesman. I play for tips, a piece of the door, the generosities of ordinary folks. My "play" is not play at all. My "play" is "sho nuff WORK". And expensive. I have roughly $25,000 in equipment. My vehicle wasn't free and the gas to and from ain't donated either. I give my time cheaply, but it's just nuts for my audience (those that listen earnestly and are somehow effected by my jamm) or my venue managers (club owners, stage directors, film producers, etc.) to expect me or anyone else to entertain them for like ZERO from them. As an ordinary Democrat I don't think that should be hard to comprehend.

I pay taxes. Everything I buy is taxed and every dollar that I earn is equally examined and in my opinion appropriately levied for the sake of our society. This is not to say that I don't find waste, fraud or abuse in governmental programs but that I understand my responsibilities and I don't have problems with a fair share thing. Can you dig it?

I always enjoy even the promise of a reduction in my monetary contributions to the prices of things. That is not a Democrat or Republican thing. It's a people thing, a natural desire to earn what you have and keep what you earn for your own personal benefit including all that society demands and needs of you. Can you dig that as well? Don't take the question as facetious.

I've posted many times about the advantage of the repuke claims to effectively "cut your taxes" and how they fail and even reverse any benefit of their proposals. Promises of tax cuts is like trading whiskey for votes. Both work and work very well.

I also posted once about the negligence on the part of the Democrats to embrace "tax cuts" and how many votes were being lost on that sole issue. To put it lightly, I was almost laughed out of DU for that so absurd observation. That's the day I realized that I was just an ordinary Democrat.

Psychoblues

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[Psychoblues99]

1. A simple nudge for discussion, is it worth it?

Psychoblues

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[Rowdyboy]

2. Problem is...

the Repubs have used tax cuts to bash Democrats for years. When they're passed, 95% of the benefits go to the upper classes and diddly-squat goes to the lower and middle classes. But people hear "tax cuts" and think its really going to help them. When tax cuts pass, the Repubs profit financially, when tax cuts fail, they gain politically.

And who pays for the tax cuts? Social programs that help those in need-from health service, job service, welfare and housing programs lose staff. Do they cut "fat" and bureaucrats? No they cut the meat-the social workers and job service people and public health nurses who work with the poor, unemployed, elderly and sick. Public services decline and the rich just keep getting richer. The guy making 25k (and thats where I am in retirement)gets a couple of six-packs worth of pocket change. Thanks, but no thanks. You can keep my "tax cut"

[Psychoblues99]

5. No argument for the sake of argument, rb, but the ones that "PAY" are

the working people, the very backbone of this country. Your argument sounds like the beneficiaries of public generosity is paying. That's not true at all. The ultimate payers are us, the very real taxpayers. As our political, environmental, resourseful and free society provides a climate for personal enrichment so should the responsibilities to the people that provide and relinguish all that. Can you dig that? Maybe my argument is too much for a one-step program.

Psychoblues

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[5thGenDemocrat]

3. I think I'm with you

I don't mind paying taxes, but politicians on every level of government and of either party always find more creative ways to piss the money away. I wish there was a way to simply hand the money over to the hungry, the naked and the homeless (to say nothing of printing money we don't have to kill Muslims and steal their oil), but I haven't seen it in my lifetime.
John
My friend Carl the Republican, who owns a drive-through party store with his father, Carl the Republican Sr., likes to tell me "Yeah, boss -- I make good money, but that doesn't mean I should have to give half of it to the government." You know, I don't have the fire in me to argue with him about it, either (and he makes, like, $50K a year -- good money, but hardly rich).

[Psychoblues99]

6. As income increases above a "liveable" level, so should the responsibilty

to the climate that provided that freedom to allow it. That's my opinion. I was once a 65% Federal income tax payer. I sure wouldn't mind being back in that category. Am I making any sense at all to you?

Psychoblues

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[5thGenDemocrat]

8. Oh yeah

I don't get these super-greedy slobs who bitch about being in a high-tax bracket. Say you make a mil a year and get taxed at -- I don't know -- 50 percent. That still leaves $500K a year to live on. My heart bleeds for people who can't survive on $10,000 a week.
Try living on 10K a year. I have, and I own my house -- I can't imagine how folks who don't manage, but they do.
John
Like I said -- I don't mind the taxes, I just wish the govt would make better choices as to how to spend it.

[Psychoblues99]

9. I dig it 5GD, I dig it big time.

Psychoblues

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[TennesseeWalker]

4. How about a middle class tax cut, then....

...and repeal the useless ones we just allowed to go through. I'm with you, PsychoBlues...;)

[Psychoblues99]

7. That's where the Dems fail, TW

They fail to recognise and appreciate the "middle class". The pukes want us all to be "lower class". That's why they always try to keep wages reduced, down, even FREE if they can get it for FREE. Us middle classers do our best to keep this country GREAT. But soon we'll be lower classers and stepped on that much more heavily. I, personally, can't stand too much more of the pressure of the profitteers or the society, can you dig it? I'm right where the pukes want me, can you dig that too?

Psychoblues

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[leftyandproud]

10. what do you consider "middle class"? just curious..

how bout the bottom two brackets? Should they stay? I believe the 28% bracket goes to 23%, the 23% to 15%, and the 15% to 10%. These are real tax reduction. The rich go from 39% to 36%...why not just repeal that one? It's not a big difference anyway. I remember when the house voted ONLY on the bottom bracket...only on reducing the 15% to 10% immediately, and EVERY DEMOCRAT in the house voted NO on this. How can we claim to be for the middle class when our leaders opposed reducing the lowest income tax bracket in 01'?