Alcoholics shouldn't be allowed to adopt children, since studies show that

[blm]

alcoholic parents do not provide the best environment for children.

How is it that Bush can get away with talking about who makes the better adoptive parents?

Where is the press noting that when George and Laura Bush adopted a child he was a known alcoholic?

I hope gay groups hammer Bush on this point.

For those who didn't know, the Bushes adopted a child and then gave it back when Laura became pregnant.

[WillowTree]

1. George and Laura Bush...

....adopted a child? When?

[gollygee]

3. Yeah that's what I was wondering

When was this adoption?

[blm]

7. They adopted a child and then gave it back after Laura became pregnant.

Gee....I thought everyone knew that.

[atldem]

9. do you have

any evidence to support that claim. It's news to me.

[WillowTree]

10. Seems that I heard...

....that they had begun to look into adoption when she became pregnant, but never that they had gotten a child and gave it back. I rather doubt that.

[blm]

14. It was part of their story till he started to prepare his candidacy

for president, and they changed the story to they made "plans" to adopt or started the "process" of adoption.

[atldem]

2. what child did he adopt?

n/t

[LisaL]

6. Maybe he is talking about Barney?

[ban-one]

20. probably the ones working on his ranch

[Misunderestimator]

4. Adopted a child? At least the point that their twins' formative years

were during his worst drinking hits home. He "says" he quit drinking in 1986, they were born in 1981.

[WildClarySage]

5. They adopted? when?

Yes, they raised their twins during *'s alcoholic heyday, and are reaping what they've sowed. But adopted? No way they would pollute their beautiful minds by thinking of raising someone else's child.

[displacedtexan]

8. "Cat Owners shouldn't be allowed to adopt children, since studies show...

cats are satanic, prone to substance abuse, actually dragons/serpents/demonic playthings.

Don't believe me?

Read my blog entry today, which sites the (cough) 'reputable' Jehovah's Witness treatise on cats:

http://ascrivenerslament.blogspot.com/

No wonder the fundies hate the Clinton family so much!

Cat owners!

[atldem]

11. You know if the

people who post on this forum aren't well informed, how can we expect the general public to be?

[ashmanonar]

12. well, go look for the records of adoption then

if you want to enlighten us. i'm not so sure they're there anymore...knowing the bush tendency to hide his ENTIRE PAST.

sometimes it's all we can do to make educated guesses, bc the information is probably gone.

[fooj]

13. The Shrub's were in the process of adoption...

I know they were approved as adoptive parents. I'm not sure how far they were in the process when they found out Laura was pregnant. It was never my understanding that they had a child in their possession and returned it. I've never been aware of that claim.

[blm]

15. They worked to change the story to "in the process" of adopting.

There were older accounts that they had taken the child home and then returned it as soon as they found out she was pregnant. Bushes are great scrubbers, especially in Texas.

[Stephanie]

19. that is news to me -

is there any source for that? that is an astounding factoid.

[kath]

21. Yes, someone did post a link here several months ago - they DID have a

child in their possession that they planned to adopt, but sent it back when they found out Laura was preggers.

[ashmanonar]

17. yea, i believe it.

i wouldn't trust a drunkard and his soulless wife with a kid...just my opinion.

[Cleita]

16. Lets go ask Alice, err Laura, when she's ten feet tall.

We really have to get that woman to write a tell all.

On edit: What will be the straw that finally gets Laura to talk?

[ashmanonar]

18. condi gets pregnant?

with a little white big-eared baby that comes out of the womb wearing cowboy boots and a hat?

[mitchum]

22. kick for the truth

[ultraist]

23. I don't know if they had a child in their care and gave it back...

but it would not surprise me a bit if this did happen.

As far as the OP about adoptive parents, there is substantial evidence/research that links excessive drug or alcohol use with child abuse. In fact, it's the number one cause, with conservative religiosity being #2.

When a home study is performed, they have to take into account factors that may place the child at risk.

Now, IF someone has been off the sauce for a while, they should be given the same chance as anyone else. EVERYONE deserves a second chance, although child molestors really don't. There is NO recovery from that and as they say, once a molestor ALWAYS a molestor.

Adopting a child requires a one year home study and while this seems unfair, considering anyone can get pregnant and have a child, it would be reckless to place a child in an unsafe home.

Whether it's drugs/acohol (and I don't mean social use) OR conservative religiosity, those factors should be considered when placing a child. The State should not put a child in imminent danger.

[mordarlar]

24. From experience i will agree that unless there is VERY in depth...

observation done for a looong time beforehand they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO ADOPT.

[blm]

26. Well, this would have been at the HEIGHT of his drinking.

It would have been less than a year before the twins born, and he didn't stop drinking till they were around 10 yrs. old.

[Dark]

25. HE ADOPTED A CHILD AND THEN GAVE IT BACK?! AND HE IS OUR 'MORAL' LEADER?

:wtf:


How can a fundie defend that?