Kinda sucks, doesn't it?

[hangemhigh]

THE BAD NEWS...
What Really Happened

January 30, 2005 - Today a C-130 Hercules crashed in Iraq. According to witnesses, the wreckage was spread out over a wide area. Anyone familier with aircraft accidents will confirm that this indicates that the aircraft came apart high in the air, not on impact with the ground.

A week ago, a helicopter crashed in Iraq, killing 31 people. Officially blamed on the weather, reports from the crash site indicate the wreckage covered 2 square kilometers. Again, this strongly suggests that the helicopter came apart high in the air. The Baghdad meteorological office confirms that the weather was clear with only moderate winds and no sandstorms at the time of the crash.

The bad news is that the Iraqi people have gained the ability to shoot down our aircraft. The US, having lost control of the use of the roads in Iraq, resorted (as they did in Veitnam) to trying to run the war from the air. The folly of that approach was demonstrated in Afghanistan when the Mujahideen learned how to kill the helicopters the Russians relied on. And now it is happening again.

That's the bad news.

There is more bad news.

There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Both the United Nations' inspections under Scott Ritter and the subsequent United States search under Charles Duelfer confirmed that Saddam Hussein was actually in compliance with United Nations' demands to destroy the weapons he had possessed prior to Desert Storm. The remains of the destroyed weapons were documented. They did not go anywhere. They didn't exist. The inspectors found rotted and corroded remains dating back to the Iran/Iraq war. When inspectors visited the remains of Iraq's reactor that had been bombed by Israel, instead of a revived weapons program they found the building being used to grow mushrooms. Common sense tells you that if Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction, he would have used them to halt the US invasion. That is, after all, what weapons of mass destruction exist for. Common sense will also tell you that if the US really HAD thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, they likely would not have invaded in the first place.

Iraq has not been supporting "Al Qaeda". The CIA has concluded that not only is there no evidence to support such a claim, but that Saddam and Al Qaeda were actually enemies. Al Qaeda's avowed purpose is theocratic rule, and Saddam's government was a secular one. Had Saddam actually armed Al Qaeda, he would have found himself as their first target.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. Nobody has found any evidence to support that claim.

According to people who have been jailed by both Saddam and the US, the US torturers are much, MUCH worse.

The United States has killed more civilians in Iraq than died in 9-11.

And while we are at it, Iran actually gassed the Kurds, according to a study by the US Army War College.

That is the truth. Deal with it.


More at: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thebadnews.html

[Oversea Visitor]

1. The resistance is growing

and they getting better organise. With better weapons more US troops will die. Get out or stay that depend on Bush. Dont think he is too worry about US troops dying. He control the news. Hence what you dont know wont hurt you.

[hangemhigh]

2. Yeah, and next, Amerikkans can kiss the internets goodbye. mnt

[Oversea Visitor]

4. This is a very small planet

There is a limit to all this nonsense. If this rubbish continue there will be a backlash on all Americans Companies.
When the US economy come crashing down, the people be real piss. Wonder where all those neo con going to hide. All those money they grab wont save them.

[Up2Late]

10. Is this the "Transport Plane...

:wtf:...Which killed 10 British Solders," as they are saying on NPR?

[Oversea Visitor]

12. Yup

Guess the sky in Iraq starting to get dangerous.

[Up2Late]

13. It's really SICK how much they are covering up these days

They never said it was a American Built C-130, and they haven't yet said why it "Crashed"

Did anyone see the "Frontline/World" Special a few weeks ago? That show was great!

It Really showed how bad it's gotten. The footage they got, showed it for the "War Zone" that it has become. All of which is not being reported, some of which is because, only about 10% of the Journalists are still working in Iraq.

You can watch it at
<http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/>
<http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/iraq401/index.html>

[DistantWind88]

18. Why does it matter

That it's American built???

[Up2Late]

22. Because C-130's are made and tested in my Home Town

And because all they said all day was, a "British Cargo Plane!" It's called "White Washing," And I getting REALLY Sick of it.:grr:

It's bad enough that almost every bit of info coming out of the U.S. Government is a Lie these days, Now it's getting so that you can't even trust NPR, never mind the BS MSM.:mad:

[Ilsa]

3. But our hometown LTTEs still link 9-11 and Eye-rack.

Still make comments like "what were we supposed to do after 9-11? Sit on our hands?" and really stupid shit like that. They drink the Fox Koolaid regularly here in Texas. And the news people say "eye-rack" instead of "ear-rock", and today they said eye-rack was electing a new leader. Real idiots here.

There is no hope as long as people want to be spoon-fed this pablum.

[Oversea Visitor]

5. 911???

Hello go find out what it is all about. There so many unanswered question on that.

911 is a time bomb ready to explode at anytime. It is just a matter of time.

[Old and In the Way]

6. Actually, I think a good part is manufactured and/or directed.

I don't think they argue from conviction, more from a sense of loyalty to their politics. The disconnect between reality and the fabricated lies they choose to believe grows daily. Sooner or later, they are going to have to make a choice. Join with us or allow their leaders to destroy this country.

It's obvious that we are not going to capitulate and suddenly start drinking the kool-aid. So this country is either going to face the truth and reunite for positive change in the near future....or this country will collapse from an inability to participate as a partner amongst nations in the 21st century world. Schizophrenia is a debilitating disease for the individual.....pretty much the same for a country.

[Erika]

7. Bush enablers prefer the taste of KoolAid

compared to the harsh taste of reality.

[hector459]

8. Wow!! You would think putting it all together like this even a brain-

washed member of the right-wing would be enraged because of the economic stranglehold the Iraq invasion has caused us not to mention the 1500 US solider killed for a lie.

[Up2Late]

9. O.K., you want worst news Re:9/11?

Check out this New 4-part report on 9/11, by someone "In the Know"
at Online Journal. Part 1, mostly show all the conflicts of interest, of the people on the 9/11 Commission, and why it was such a sham, Part 2 is a major eye opener.(I won't Ruin the rest for ya, because I'm still re-reading it):hurts:

Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble
Part 1: The 9-11 Commission
<http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/120404Schwarz/120404schwarz.html>

Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble
Part 2: 9/11 Commission and Bridas
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/121004Schwarz/121004schwarz.html

Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble
Part 3: 9-11 served a multitude of purposes
<http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/121704Schwarz/121704schwarz.html>

Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble
Part 4: More reasons to not investigate 9-11
<http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/011405Schwarz/011405schwarz.html>

[Oversea Visitor]

14. I bet you not much Americans

know about Spitzer and 911 stuff. The most frighting things is that after so long there seems to be no action at all.

[Up2Late]

15. I think you're right

I'd be willing to bet that only about .01% of Americans know about this:

<http://deoxy.org/wc/warcrim2.htm>

from the first "Gulf War" in 1991.

I only learned about it 2 years ago, and I had alway thought I was Very well in touch (I always watched 2-4 hours of CNN Headline News, until it was bought by AOL/Time-Warner, and they :puke: "changed everything."

Yeah, they changed it into total CRAP! 24/7:hurts:

[Oversea Visitor]

16. Scary but true

The medias in USA is all controlled and they are now buying up media around the world. Soon the world will be CORPORATIZE too.

I am starting to remember all the movies and story I read about corporations controlling the world.

[RevCheesehead]

11. Who is it that said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?

Because I'm seeing a whole new picture of Osama and Bush at work here.

I'm leaning MIHOP on 9/11.

[Up2Late]

17. I tried to find you an answer, but no luck

That might be one of those sayings that has become too common to attribute.:shrug:

I tried to find it at <http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/>, maybe you can find it there or you might try <http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/wftw.pl> They sometime talk about common quotes, but mostly common word origins.

[Individualist]

19. It's an Arab proverb

www.anvari.org/fortune/Proverbs_1/378.html

[nostamj]

20. it's an Arab proverb

http://www.anvari.org/fortune/Proverbs_1/378.html

according to this site...

[okieinpain]

21. kinda reminds me of a movie where they show this vietminise

walking down this road. he looks up and sees a plane flying over head and takes one pot shot at it. the next scene is inside the plane, it's full of smoke and the pilots are getting ready to jump out.

I know it not really funny, but it is kind of funny some where off in that pile of bush-shit called iraqi liberation.