CSPAN Reminder: Obey -- 9:30 AM ET & Wolfowtiz/Meyers on Hill at 10 AM ET

[Khephra]

LIVE
0:30 (est.) Call-In
Funding Request for Iraq Reconstruction
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
David R. Obey , D-WI
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.


(And then right after that......)

TUESDAY ON C-SPAN AT 10AM ET

Sec. Wolfowitz & Gen. Myers on Hill

Dep. Sec. of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, JCS Chairman Gen. Richard Myers & Undersec. of State Marc Grossman testify on Iraq before the Senate Armed Service Cmte.

[Cat Atomic]

1. Oh my- I thought it was a message from Big Brother.

We'd like to remind you to OBEY.

;)

[Khephra]

2. I had a feeling someone would make a joke like that

Maybe...that's why I wrote it like that?

Nahhhhhh...

:evilgrin:

[legin]

3. I did a very quick check on David R. Obey

He seems to be pretty OK. As a basement person this was interesting:

Armchair Activist: Congressional Haters of Israel

June 22, 2002

The following is a list of US Senators and Members of the House of Representatives who voted "No" on the resolutions of May 2, 2002 that supported Israel. It is incumbent upon every American supporter of the state of Israel to work to defeat these individuals when they come up for reelection.

SENATORS VOTING "NO" (2)
Robert Byrd, Dem., West Virginia
Ernest Hollings, Dem., South Carolina


HOUSE MEMBERS VOTING "NO" (21)
Neil Abercrombie, Dem., Hawaii
David E. Bonior, Dem., Michigan
Rick Boucher, Dem., Viriginia
Gary A. Condit, Dem., California
John Conyers Jr., Dem., Michigan
Peter A. DeFazio, Dem., Oregon
John D. Dingell, Dem., Michigan
Earl F. Hilliard, Dem., Alabama
Jay Inslee, Dem., Washington
Jesse L. Jackson Jr., Dem., Illinois
Gerald D. Kleczka, Dem., Wisconsin
Barbara Lee, Dem., California
Cynthia A. McKinney, Dem., Georgia
George Miller, Dem., California
David R. Obey, Dem., Wisconsin
Ron Paul, Rep., Texas
Thomas E. Petri, Rep., Wisconsin Nick
J. Rahall II, Dem., West Virginia
Dana Rohrabacher, Rep., California
Nick Smith, Rep., Michigan
Fortney Pete Stark, Dem., California

http://www.jdl.org/action/armchair/congress_israel.shtml

[KharmaTrain]

4. Dave's The Real Deal

I've followed Congressman Obey's career for a long time. He's served for at least 20 years and is one of those 60's liberal/progressives whose always been there, but always overlooked.

I was really impressed with him during the Clinton Inquisition...he was Bonior's right arm on the House floor fights and has been a vocal critic of this regime when others (translation: Liberman) gave Whistelass carte blanche to destroy this country.

I'm kinda torn...while I'd like to see Wolfie and Von Rumsfeldt in the dock in the Hague, I kinda like to have them around for another year as more NeoCon poster children when voters ask who got us in this mess.

[sybylla]

5. The best thing about Dave Obey

He tells it like it is. His editorials during the impeachment were fabulous.

I'm surprised they aren't talking about the letter he sent to Bush on Friday asking him to fire Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz as they have clearly failed job.

"I recommend that you allow the secretary of defense and deputy secretary of defense to return to the private sector."

http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/56286.php

http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/56286.php

[Badger1]

6. Obey

Dave Obey is my rep. We just had a dinner for him in northern WI last week and he said many times that this president "must be replaced". He is a good man and has represented this district in congress for 34 years. I asked him when he might retire, " not till every person in this country has health care". He believes the greatest threat to the country is the expanding gap between the haves and the have nots. Just wanted to chime in. Have a great day.

[sybylla]

7. Welcome, Badger!

I'm not in Dave's district anymore but I grew up in it and have always admired him. You're lucky. Glad to hear he isn't planning on retiring soon, although if we get the right dem elected, his wish could come true.

[ewagner]

10. Welcome Badger1

I, too, am a long time supporter of Dave Obey. When I was an elected official, his office was always there for me.

Again welcome :toast:

[dennis4868]

13. But he also said this morning on C-SPAN that....

there is no reason to impeach Bush. Ummm....lying about a threat that leads to thousands of deaths is not a reason for impeachment? Don't understand these spineless Dems.

[sybylla]

15. You obviously don't know Dave Obey

if you can call him spineless. Pragmatic, perhaps, but not spineless.

[leftchick]

8. omg, I got on C-span to talk to Obey...

and I sucked. That was the first time I ever got through! Note for the future, Never go on c-span without notes! :(

[legin]

9. Wolfowitz is on

one snip ".... a coalition of 90 nations".

I think I heard it right.

[ewagner]

11. Somebody better start calling these people

on their lies.

90 Countries? Yeah, how many are supplying troops? How many are supplying financial assistance.

Jon Stewert was right: The Coalition of the Piddling!

[legin]

12. Breakdown of 87 bn

66 bn for the troops.
21 bn for re-construction.

[legin]

14. Some observations

State Dept guy was rather desperatly trying to point out how important the State Dept was to the 'war on terror', i.e. it's been sidelined.

A lot of hilighting of how many countries are involved in the coalition, i.e. it's an issue that worries them.

A bit to much mention of the word 'victory' in the 'war on terrorism' for my liking. "The object of war is peace not victory": Maj-gen JFC Fuller

[legin]

16. Also the other line they are pushing

is how many of the Iraqi people are joining to help the occupation, police force, new Iraqi army, intelligence etc.

[nomaco-10]

17. I've had it on all morning waiting for

Robert Byrd to speak. Wolfowitz, same old, same old; "TERROR"..."9-11"..."Iraq", always making sure he mentions all three in the same sentence. It just never ends, when, god when will the insanity stop?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

18. Wolfowitz: Pay to Play

He said, in essence, that the more a given country contributes, the more say they'll have in how "resources" are allocated.

[nomaco-10]

19. Yep, how many slices can you get out of the Iraq pie?

[nomaco-10]

20. and still keep most of it for yourself. eom

[DisgustipatedinCA]

21. McCain up

Chiding, but gently.

Milquetoast.

OK, now he's saying we're short on troops in Iraq.

Now he's asking Wolfowitz why we want to send foreign troops to be shot at instead of our own.

Wolfowitz sez that international troops are basically sent to less dangerous areas.

McCain quips it's his understanding that EVERYWHERE in Iraq is dangerous. End of exchange.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

22. Myers on why we need to "internationalize" forces

We need an international force in place because the American presence is an agitant in Iraq.

He basically admitted they hate our guts and it would be better if other faces were there, because maybe the Iraqis would hate us less.

[nomaco-10]

24. Ted Kennedy "wrong war at the wrong time"

[DisgustipatedinCA]

23. Ted Kennedy Up n/t

[DisgustipatedinCA]

25. Kennedy

Kennedy: wanted to hear in speech an admission of failure. Admin doesn't know the direction in which is going. President has essentially asked for a blank check.

Am people deserve to know the answers to the following:

-
-duration of occupation estimation
-estimate of total cost: reconstruction, etc.
-schedule for utilities coming online
-schedule for when Iraqi security takes over
-how will we know we've won
-what's our pullout strategy

Need to know answers before we pony up billions...continued...

[nomaco-10]

26. Wolfowitz inre to Iraqi terrorists "We will Capture them and Kill them"

Has he never heard of the Geneva Convention!!!