Does anybody here still doubt that the Bush Cabal are Fascists?

[benburch]

Hey, folks...

A number of times over the last several years I have shopped my idea that the Bush Cabal are unreconstructed Fascists, right out of the same mold as Benito Mussolini;



I've been called about every name as a result, including an anti-semite!

In light of the torture memoes, atrocities, stolen elections, murder of political rivals, corporate takeover of the military, looting of tax dollars by Bush cronies, oppression of ethnic muslims, invasion of other countries, and the mass-hypnosis that has been used to control his adoring followers, can anybody doubt that he is just that???

But, remember how that first story ended? Somehow I doubt that Bush will leave office in the same manner.

[ladjf]

1. The fat lady hasn't sung as yet.

[Minstrel Boy]

6. She's sung, left the building and hailed a cab.

Fascism comes in a lot of guises. Don't hold your breath waiting for swastikas and toothbrush moustaches before you think America's arrived.

[ladjf]

13. The lady to whom I was referring, has not as yet sung.

In other words, the story of the Bush dynasty hasn't ended YET.

[benburch]

17. I hope she has her sheet music ready! nt

[tom_paine]

25. Whether Imperial Amerika continues under the Bush Family or others

the Old American Republic is dead and gone.

[Occulus]

31. That's rather ominous.

What do you think we're in store for?

[ladjf]

34. "I see a bad moon rising. I see trouble in the air."

[tom_paine]

22. Yep she has sung.

We are now well past the point of no return.

You'll see. To prepare yourself for the moment when you finally notice, please read this.

http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html

[NYC]

2. Leave office in the manner of Mussolini?

?

[mopaul]

3. I just love Mussolini's last photo session

makes me pine for the old days when people treated war criminals like they deserved.

[benburch]

4. Mind you, I am not suggesting this at ALL;

[NYC]

7. Your photograph is much clearer than mine.

Thanks.

[NYC]

9. Another angle:

[AntiFascist]

26. It gives new meaning to the "Hang 10" hand signal nt

[deutsey]

5. Robert Kennedy, Jr. quote:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0122-10.htm

In the book, Kennedy implies that we live in a fascist country and that the Bush White House has learned key lessons from the Nazis.

"While communism is the control of business by government, fascism is the control of government by business," he writes. "My American Heritage Dictionary defines fascism as 'a system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership together with belligerent nationalism.' Sound familiar?"

[LynnTheDem]

8. Of course they're fascists. They fill every definition of fascist.

There's no doubt about it; they're fascists.

[indepat]

10. I prefer "corporatists"

[bigtree]

14. Benito Mussolini, 1936:

" To call our movement Fascism is really a label applied to us by the press and is inaccurate. We should properly be called "Corporatists" for we practice the union of the state and corporate interests."

[quiet.american]

15. Just curious -- why do you prefer "corporatists"?

I know Mussolini said fascism should more accurately be defined as corporatism, but just curious as to why you prefer the word.

[indepat]

23. Sounds less menacing than fascists: a dirty name without sounding as dirty

[AntiFascist]

27. Considering the relationship between Prescott Bush and the Nazis....

I think fascism may be quite appropriate.

[quiet.american]

33. 'Preciated your reply. n/t

[goddess40]

36. we shouldn't "nice" it up, they are menacing

Too many in this country won't face the truth and by putting a new label on it will only let them deny the facts longer.

We, as in democratic party, worry too much about trying to draw in voters that will never vote our way. We need to stick to our basic stand and not jump all over the place, it just confuses those that sit on the fence. They vote for something that they can understand and can count on being firm, being wishy washy doesn't cut it.

[gumby]

11. Rush Limbaugh has been the leading fascist propagandist.

I've been called all kinds of names too for saying that PigBoy was a fascist mouthpiece.

Hey, torture is just stressed soldiers blowing off some steam; a fraternity prank. While Government by the people is bad, bad, bad, Government by the Ruling Elite is to be literally worshiped. Every day, PigBoy's program is dive into the depths of fascist propaganda; all covered in the Americana of hate-mongering and scapegoating and wrapped in a big, big, big American Flag.

Yeah, it's fascism alright.

[baldguy]

12. The Republicans have been fascists for the last 25 yrs.

This is nothing new.

[Octafish]

16. Look at who their friends are.

Why do you think they support the likes of Francisco Franco, Papa Doc Duvallier, the apartheid regime in South Africa, the murderous thugs leading Guatemala and El Salvador, Augosto Pinochet, and on and on.

Hitler? He was exactly the same. And that’s why Averell Harriman, the Dulles Brothers and Prescott Bush and the rest of their Wall Street ilk supported – and continue to support – these turds.



Heil Bushler.

[electropop]

18. Love your photo!

The caption's pretty special too.

[DemoTex]

19. Great banner!

[hector459]

20. You forgot censorhsip and control of the media...press

Otherwise, you have it!

[natrat]

21. when the consensus is yes it's too late

human things just dont change it seems

[Dark]

24. He's not fascist, just corrupt.

He is trying to give the companies that will make him more money more leeway. So, he can make even more money, damn the environment. . .

bastard.

[benburch]

28. So, you answered my question!

What would it take before you'd wake up and realize that indeed they are not only technically fascists, but that they are intentionally fascists, and that the whole family has been since the 1930s?

[Dark]

32. I know you don't want to hear this, but Bush is NOT a dictator.

fas·cism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm)
n.
often Fascism
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Fascism involves complete suppression of opposing voices.

Maureen Dowd hasn't been hauled of to any camps, has she? Bill Maher? Michael Moore?!

Fascism is also marked by STRINGENT socioeconomic controls.

You think Bush has been INCREASING economic controls? That's why he's trying to privatize social security. And he's pretty much stated he has no desire to pass the FMA.

The only thing he does have is nationalism, but a democrat would be exploiting the surge in nationalism too. Look at Kerry, he was practically bathing in the Red, white, and blue.

And I can't remember any obvious examples of Bush's racism. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only things he's done is cuts to programs to help minorities out. And I don't believe that he did so because it would hurt them, but rather help increase his pocket book (corporate welfare, anyone.)

He's not fascist. He doesn't want a dictatorship out of megalomania. He wants to get in, raid as much money as he can for his rich friends, and get out. . . kinda like Gordon Gecko of the movie Wall Street.

He's just VERY corrupt.

[Speck Tater]

29. If this plays out the way such things usually do...

...historians in 2153 will "discover" that Bush and company were facists. But by then nobody but a handful of dusty academics will really care about the history of a failed and forgotten Empire.

[Radio_free_america]

30. Hum hum in many aspect yes, but

Not yet they have went to Paris. :)
Not even they could visit New-York without general mobilisation of police forces. :)

[Disturbed]

35. Call the Bush Junta whatever you want...

the bottom line is this:

The New Right Wing Agenda

"The most important implication of all this is that large segments of the domestic and world population are no longer seen as worth worrying about. On one level, this is just racism and classism. But there’s more than that going on. In the past, capitalism was optimistic and assumed that it would keep expanding, which provided the basis for a “corporate liberalism” that saw everyone in the world as a potential consumer and/or laborer - and therefore having some potential worth. But the new reactionaries see the future as much more of a zero-sum game. Partly, this is an expression of their incredible greed and corruption - their incessant efforts to rip off wealth for themselves and their narrow sets of cronies. In any case, the result is that most of Africa, large swaths of Latin America and Asia, and significant parts of the domestic US population have been simply written off -individuals who may arise from the trodden mass are welcome as junior partners, but there is no concern at all for the general well being of these sectors beyond token PR and the limited need to keep local elites from causing too much anti-American trouble on the world stage.

"The amazing thing is that the right wing fundamentalists have been able to seize power and win a large amount of support - or at least acquiescence -- among the US electorate. The people I talk with point to a number of contextual reasons. First, this country lacks any significant institutionalized alternative.

The Democratic Party is both complicit and fratricidal. The labor movement is the only really powerful potential organized opposition, but they are ideologically scattered, organizationally weak, and under unremitting attack. In addition, the powerful role of money in shaping our electoral outcomes is another key ingredient in the right wings success, as well as in keeping liberal (much less radical) alternatives from gaining influence in the Democratic Party.

The increasing dominance of US media by an incredibly small number of incredibly right wing corporations has a powerful impact. The collapse of the Soviet Union, the lack of any significant “third way,” and the resulting feeling that there is “no viable alternative” has been a very important context for the right wings’ ability to present themselves as inevitable and unstoppable. Finally, the current climate of insecurity, fear, and even paranoia - which the government and media are successfully doing their utmost to deepen and expand - plays an important role in making it hard for opposition to find political space.

<snip>

"Most important, by wrapping themselves in the mantle of religion, the GOP leadership has made themselves a vehicle for the growing religious fundamentalist upsurge - parts of which can accurately be described as a fascist movement. Having god on your side means you are always right, no matter what other people may think or how events may fall out. You simply never have to say you are sorry, and all your failures are the result of evil forces beyond your control. Being on a Crusade, having an absolutist and deeply ideological sense of mission, also underpins the right wing’s willingness to use all the power at their command - legal and extra-legal - to push for a maximal agenda. No matter how thin their electoral margin of victory, once in office, they act without hesitation or compromise. They understand that success creates its own legitimacy and its own tailwind, pulling others along with it.

More... http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0613-02.htm