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Itsthetruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:18 AM
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American Police State
CounterPunch
February 1, 2005

American Police State
Abandoning Liberty; Gaining Insecurity
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Should Americans have to give up the Bill of Rights in order to be "safe" from terrorists? Actually, it doesn't matter what Americans think. The trade has already been made--and without any input from the people. The "democracy" that America is exporting is in fact a Homeland Security State with more surveillance powers than Saddam Hussein.

Americans no longer have any privacy from government. You may not be able to find out about your daughter's abortion or your son's college grades, but neither you nor your children have any secret whatsoever from your government. Banks, airlines, libraries, credit card companies, medical doctors and health care organizations, employers, Internet providers, any and everyone must turn over your private information at government demand.

Government demand no longer means a court approved warrant. A myriad of intelligence, security, military, and police agencies can on their own volition mine your personal data and feed it into data banks. Your democratic government does not have to tell you. Your bank, library, etc., are forbidden to tell you.

The government can monitor you as you use your computer, noting the web sites that you visit and reading the emails that you send and receive. Americans have privacy rights only against intrusions by private individuals and private organizations.

The government can pick up anyone it wishes and hold them as long as it wishes without evidence or trial. The government can torture those so detained if it wishes or murder them and say it was a suicide. Saddam Hussein may have indulged in these practices in a more thorough-going way than the US Homeland Security State has to date, but there are no essential differences in the police state powers.

Defenders of the new American police state emphasize that the government's new powers only apply to terrorists. This is disingenuous. The government decides who is a terrorist and does not need to present evidence to back its decision. The person on whom the arbitrary decision falls can be held indefinitely. This is a return to the pre-Magna Carta practice of executive arrest.

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Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review.

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02012005.html
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:32 AM
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1. I think the government has spotted a "suspect"
"The government can monitor you as you use your computer, noting the web sites that you visit and reading the emails that you send and receive. Americans have privacy rights only against intrusions by private individuals and private organizations."

Try this website:
http://www.bushisamoron.org/

I think this is an example of a "police state"
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:37 AM
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2. what the hell is FEDERAL STATUTE §1.013.021
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 11:38 AM by toymachines
fucking pricks. the justice dept confiscates a site and then puts up patriot act propaganda. So they consider this an IP crime? its free speech you goddam SOB's.
why is it that when i put FEDERAL STATUTE §1.013.021 into google all i get is a link to the bush is a moron page, is this the only case it has been used in so far?
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