In general, Republicans seem to simply love War

[mopaul]

They are just not happy unless there is a war on somewhere, Panama, Grenada, Central America, Iran and Iraq, and in general, Liberals seem to hate war.

People who love war are assholes.

[wuushew]

1. Thats not true...they hated Clinton's Kosovo actions

n/t

[mopaul]

5. unless a democrat is president

of course, you are right.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

25. Deep down........

....they probably think we should have left Adolf alone.

[big peaches]

2. Only Bush

can make "spreading freedom" sound like the deliberate outbreak of a social disease.

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[Ironpost]

14. Long ago been Impeached.

Hell, they impeached our good President Clinton

[justinsb]

4. You may have already read this

But please people, consider signing this. It probably wont actually happen but the mere possibility of having to actually PAY for war may change their minds.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/IraqComp

[smirkymonkey]

23. How bout if we PAY for War, and let our tax dollars cover

our Healthcare instead of the other way around, like it is now?

[Bluzmann57]

6. In general, they like war

as long as they or any of their loved ones don't have to go and fight. I am a Liberal and am not totally opposed to war, as long as it isn't for conquest, like the illegal one we're in now. Self defense is a damn good reason to go to war, oil isn't.

[mopaul]

8. I'm sure there have been justifiable wars...

...although we haven't had a really righteous one since Hitler and Hirohito. just an opinion

[K-W]

7. A better way to say it.

People who are pro war tend to support the republican party.

Painting all republicans with the same brush as thier militaristic factions is unfair. Most republicans support US wars because they have false impressions of them.

[DrWeird]

9. Yeah, as long as somebody else does the dirty work.

nt

[mopaul]

11. don't forget the failed war on drugs

and the new war on liberals

[tom_paine]

10. A True Lover of War wouldn't shie from fighting one. Busheviks would crap

their pants, most of them, if they were thrust into combat.

They don't war, just the IDEA of war, and that at a long distance.

They will make fine Neighborhood Spies like the Soviets and Nazis were and Camp Guards.

But they are p*ssies at heart.

[Swamp Rat]

17. Yep. Have you seen this?

I've been posting it to your posts the last day or two hoping to get a rise outta ya. :D

[tom_paine]

33. LOL. Yeah, I've seen it

but I guess I didn't make the connection that it was showing up a lot lately!

Great pic!

:toast: :toast:

As I've said and will continue saying, the Busheviks and Bolsheviks share the same mindset, except for a bit of economic philosophy!

What's that ghostly reptile face on the upper right?

Is it Pigboy Limba?

Which Bushevik Dog-God is it?

[Swamp Rat]

34. The Wizard of Oz...

I've got one of Pigboy too, but the reptile in the upper right corner is KKKarl, giving instructions to the lizard drones.

Since I learned the term Bushevik from you, I dedicate this pic to you. I waited and waited for a photo to be posted on DU that would be appropriate to use, just for this. :D

[tom_paine]

43. Thanks, pal. But I can't take credit for "Bushevik"

I believe author and professor Mark Crispin Miller coinced the term.

Just wanted to give credit where credit was due...

Busheviks or Bolsheviks? David Brock wrote how Norquist used to had a picture of Lenin in his apartment.

Which is very telling, and explains a lot.

A term I did "invent" (although it wouldn't surprise me if some had already "invented" it and I don't know about it) todescribe our Busheviks:

Free-Market Stalinists.

[BrklynLiberal]

12. The like the $$ that war makes for their friends

[orpupilofnature57]

13. It serves as a quick fix to a lot of problem's, but only temporarily

Our over investment in Vietnam was instrumental in trickie dicks deregulation of oil,its why the "Paris peace talks" were drawn out to the detriment of many solders.

[superconnected]

15. yes

I've been dealing with very hard core fundies lately and they are flat out blood thirsty.

[arcane1]

16. of course they do, legally killing non-white people

for a Republican, life doesn't get any better than that

[DerekG]

18. American liberalism has a rather sordid history in regards to war

Fair lady liberalism has accrued quite the body count; it is usually radical leftists, and staunch libertarians, who are best equipped to see through our imperialist ventures. Consider the following:


1. Teddy Roosevelt--a progressive--was an architect of the Spanish-American war.

2. Woodrow Wilson--a progressive--plunged us into the cauldron of Europe, eschewing the warnings of both George Washington and, later, John Quincy Adams, to stay out of foreign entanglements.

3. Harry Truman--a tepid liberal--opened Pandora's Box in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, presided over the creation of the National Security State, and sent a generation of boys to die in Korea.

4. Lyndon Johnson--our greatest liberal--unleashed the barbarous onslaught on Indochina.

[mopaul]

19. i'm talkin' bout the current crowd of crazies

i remember all that previous stuff too, i'm focusing on the neo cons and the bush zombies.

as for myself, i'm anti war in general

[DerekG]

20. I understand

And I do agree that rightists are more inclined to support our wars than leftists; I merely felt it was my duty to point out that we have much to fear from militaristic liberals, for they are able to cloak their sins with beneficent domestic programs and grandiose rhetoric (I'm sure Wilson sounded a hell of lot more sincere about "fighting tyranny" than Bush does).

[mopaul]

21. Kerry pissed me off by towing the bush line lock stock and barrel

I wanted an anti war candidate, but I vote for Kerry anyway. I'd have voted for a tuna salad over bush.

[orpupilofnature57]

22. Still, how to go! The only true weapon against hypocrisy is self effacement

[tralfaz]

27. Thank you

for being somebody who actually has taken a fair and unbiased look at all of our past presidents.

[DerekG]

36. None needed

There exists an unfortunate tendency on the part of a good number of Democrats to ignore the atrocities fomented by their own administrators: liberals are quick to foist blame for the Red Scare on the shoulders of McCarthy, Nixon and the China Lobby, yet reserve no animus for Truman and Acheson, who sold the Cold War to the American people in the first place; likewise, Lodge and the Republicans receive sole blame for the failure of the post-WWI peace process, but little is said of Wilson's foolhardy decision to plunge us into that imperialist war.

And then there's the disturbing fact that part of the reason why Johnson was able to conduct his genocide for four long years was his ability to transfix the liberals in Congress with his Great Society. Would these politicians have let the Vietnam War continue as it did had Goldwater been in LBJ's position?

I'm afraid things are a bit more complicated than Conservative=Evil/Liberal=Good.

[tabasco]

39. My take on these wars:

Spanish-American: You call Roosevelt a progressive but I wonder. He was a conservationist but I'm not sure I would call him progressive or liberal. The war was unjustified.

WWI - I don't really have a problem with wars against aggressive fascist states, as Germany was in WWI. Justified and successful in itself. Of course a failure to maintain the peace.

Nukes on Japan - if you were an infantryman waiting to assault the mainland islands, I don't think you would question the use of nukes to end the war. Using the nukes saved hundreds of thousands of lives by ending the war NOW. Harsh, yes, but so was the prospect of another two years of Iwo Jimas. Would conventional bombing for the extended duration be any more humane?

Korea - a UN action in support of a people that were willing to fight hard for their own country. Justified and successful.

Vietnam - utterly bad judgment to continue the effort after 1966. When we discovered it was our war, not South Vietnam's, we should have got the hell out.

[DerekG]

42. I respectfully disagree

And I emphasize "respectfully"; your rebuttal is greatly appreciated.


1. Teddy was no Eugene Debs (though he did co-opt some of his initiatives), but he was progressive in the context of his times: the Meat Inspection Act, the Pure Food and Drug Act, and the Hepburn Act (regulation of railroads) set new precedents.

2. It would take well over a decade before WWI Germany would become a fascist state; the world war was but a power grab between advanced capitalist countries, vying for new spheres of influence, such as the Balkans, Africa and Alsac-Lorraine. Accordingly, Wilson was enticed. England, after all, was a lucrative market for American goods; in 1915, the ban on private bank loans to the Allies was lifted, filling the coffers of J.P. Morgan and Company and U.S. Steel. Entering the war would only boost profit.

3. There is reason to believe that an invasion of Japan was not necessary. Rather, the bombs were dropped to keep the Russians out of the Japanese reconstruction, for they were obliged to declare war on the island on August 8 (the first bomb was dropped on August 6). Everyone from Eisenhower, to MacArthur, to Nimitz, were opposed to the usage of "Little Boy" and "Fat Man". But again, we needed our sphere of influence.

[Stirk]

24. They don't seem to love fighting in those wars, though.

Odd how that works.

[leftofthedial]

26. especially if we're killing nonwhites

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Luv that $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Just Me]

28. I think they are obsessed with destruction.

The neoCONspirators believe destruction is great!!!

:puke:

[moondust]

29. Yep. Destruction and killing.

Their world revolves around it. All they need is an excuse and if they don't have a one they'll make one up.

[independentchristian]

30. The majority of them love Bush not war

Always remember that.

Joe Blow in Oklahoma loves Bush.

If you want to bring down Bush, bring down his circle. Cheney's approval ratings have always been low, but he actually runs the administration. Why not start with him?

This is why Howard Dean needs to be the DNC Chair. If he is, and he's not sold out, he'd probably back people exposing Cheney, send them on C-Span and let them talk about how Cheney is still getting paid by Halliburton.

[wadestock]

31. Oh buddy, how right you are.....

They love to stomp on people....it gets their juices flowing.
Whether it be in the board room, or in any other venue....

These are the wimps that have to feel power by stepping on other people. People like Limbaugh and all the others that march to this tune are the last people that would help you out of a car wreck. They are selfish bastards that love to have other people oogle over them and call them powerful...when in fact....they aren't strong.

The reason they seek power and control of people is to feel some form of control that they can't naturally get through their own self realization and confidence.

[tabasco]

38. They like to watch war on teevee. Good reality teevee.

They like to watch war sitting on their sofa. Makes them "proud to be American" as they watch the US trample some third world country. Of course, if it gets to the point where they have to participate, then they learn the value of diplomacy.

These people don't give a shit for the troops or the Nation. They only care about themselves and find war entertaining.

[ComerPerro]

32. The only way a Republican administration can work

is if there is a war going on somewhere, and if they can manage to make it the only issue.

Its because they suck at domestic issues.

[DemGirl7]

35. Everyone knows Repukes love War way more than Democrats...

because it gives them a chance to call people traitors, allow for them to wrap themselves up in the flag, take peoples rights away, a way for them to reward themselves and campaign donors with money that will make a good profit from blowing stuff up and rebuilding the stuff that they blew up, and it also helps in inflating their egos which is in reality very tiny...

[mopaul]

37. don't know how many times I've heard them say 'nuke em' all'

they just can't wait to nuke a muslim nation, and they mean it.
yet, in the same skull they carry the prince of peace around to worship on sunday.

[moondust]

40. ...while the other face is preaching about a "Culture of Life".

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

[Toucano]

41. But they want a "culture of life"!

The lousy ass monkeys!