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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:10 PM
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"The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to..."
In a comment made to a Columbia University class on Nov. 12, 1963,

Ten days before his assassination, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy allegedly said:

"The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm

This is a site about the Federal Reserve. I am woefully ignorant on this topic. It appears from this article that Kennedy issued an Executive Order virtually eliminating the Fed. According to the author, it was never recinded. What's the deal? There are numerous sites that make reference to this order on both sides of the political fence but I was hoping to get your input. Please, I state this again. I know nothing about this topic so if this is B.S., sorry, I just found it while doing some research and wanted some input.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:20 PM
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1. I want to know too....
is the bilderberg group involved in this?
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:21 PM
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2. Whose the bilderberg group?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:26 PM
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3. Books

http://www.pcdf.org/corprule/corporat.htm

"A searing indictment of an unjust international economic order."
- Archbishop Desmond Tutu

"This new edition expands and updates Korten's laser-like analysis of how global corporations dominate people and their governments. It will agitate your mind, elevate your soul, and engage your civic spirit."
- Ralph Nader

"The new edition is even more powerful than the original in its articulation of the issues, its stories of the struggle and its compelling call to each and everyone of us to become participants in what I believe to be a sacred trust...creating a world that works for all."
- Danny Glover


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911q.html
3. Did A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard, CIA, own any stocks of United Airlines, American Airlines, Merrill Lynch,

4. Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re.?

5. What is his connection to Alex Brown, Deutsche Bank?

6. Did he give any insider information about to George Tenet, CIA?

7. Who was the investor who purchased 2,000 UAL put options between August and September 11, 2001?

8. Did Deutsche Bank-Alex Brown own any stocks of UA, AA, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re?

9. What about the 2,500 UA-contracts which were "split into 500 chunks each, directing each order to different U.S. exchanges around the country simultaneously." on August 10, 2001?

10. Did Deutsche purchase UAL options in August 2001?

11. Why did DB-AB purchase 4,744 put options on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call s on September 6-7? What was the purpose of doing that?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060931841/qid=1107026699/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-2385254-2509532?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Customers who bought this book also bought

* Alien Agenda: Investigating the Extraterrestrial Presence Among Us by Jim Marrs
* Illuminati 666, Book 2 by William Josiah Sutton
* New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies by William T. Still
* The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline by James Perloff
* Who's Who of the Elite : Members of the Bilderbergs, Council on Foreign Relations, & Trilateral Commission by Robert Gaylon Ross Sr.
* Proof of the Illuminati by Seth Payson
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:48 PM
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6. Nice post...
I really like the "...Customers who bought this book also bought..."

very nice touch. :smoke:

And that Ying/Yang thing has got me HYPMOTIZED... How may I serve you, master...:crazy:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:49 PM
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10. Bring me a....... "shrubbery!!!!".... or I'll say Neeh many times over!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:36 PM
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5. Oh, you don't want to know
That was a slam.

The BG is suppose to be THE MOST powerful Secret Society of the most influential World leaders, who supposedly control everything in the World, involving Money.:tinfoilhat:

They are supposedly Way more powerful than "Skull & Bones" and the #2, "Council on Foreign Relations.":eyes:

If you don't know those groups, you probably need do do some research.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:26 PM
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4. Check out this site, they have some interesting ideas too...
I don't know that much about the Fed either, but these folks say, the Fed isn't REALLY part of the U.S. Government.

I don't know, but I'd love to hear from someone who does.

<http://www.libertydollar.org/>:shrug:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:51 PM
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7. The Fed is a private corporation. They print money, which is suppose to
be overseen by Congress. They have the bills printed up. It takes maybe 3 cents to print any bill but the US government buys it at face value. Nice income if you can get it.

Banks come first, people come second. Credit cards do the same thing. They have to keep 10% of the debt on the books. So they have $10 and lend you $100. You pay 10-30% of money that doesn't even exist.
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OxQQme Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:55 PM
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8. The Fed
As recorded in re; Alger Hiss v. Ezra Pound 1948

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm

"HISTORICAL BEGINNINGS . . . . THE FEDERAL RESERVE",

published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston in its seventh printing, 1982.

Foreword

In 1949, while I was visiting Ezra Pound who was a political prisoner at St. Elizabeth’s Hospital, Washington, D.C. (a Federal institution for the insane), Dr. Pound asked me if I had ever heard of the Federal Reserve System. I replied that I had not, as of the age of 25. He then showed me a ten dollar bill marked "Federal Reserve Note" and asked me if I would do some research at the Library of Congress on the Federal Reserve System which had issued this bill. Pound was unable to go to the Library himself, as he was being held without trial as a political prisoner by the United States government. After he was denied broadcasting time in the U.S., Dr. Pound broadcast from Italy in an effort to persuade people of the United States not to enter World War II. Franklin D. Roosevelt had personally ordered Pound’s indictment, spurred by the demands of his three personal assistants, Harry Dexter White, Lauchlin Currie, and Alger Hiss, all of whom were subsequently identified as being connected with Communist espionage.

I had no interest in money or banking as a subject, because I was working on a novel. Pound offered to supplement my income by ten dollars a week for a few weeks. My initial research revealed evidence of an international banking group which had secretly planned the writing of the Federal Reserve Act and Congress’ enactment of the plan into law. These findings confirmed what Pound had long suspected. He said, "You must work on it as a detective story." I was fortunate in having my research at the Library of Congress directed by a prominent scholar, George Stimpson, founder of the National Press Club, who was described by The New York Times of September 28, 1952: "Beloved by Washington newspapermen as ‘our walking Library of Congress’, Mr. Stimpson was a highly regarded reference source in the Capitol. Government officials, Congressmen and reporters went to him for information on any subject."

I did research four hours each day at the Library of Congress, and went to St. Elizabeth’s Hospital in the afternoon. Pound and I went over the previous day’s notes. I then had dinner with George Stimpson at Scholl’s Cafeteria while he went over my material, and I then went back to my room to type up the corrected notes. Both Stimpson and Pound made many suggestions in guiding me in a field in which I had no previous experience. When Pound’s resources ran low, I applied to the Guggenheim Foundation, Huntington Hartford Foundation, and other foundations to complete my research on the Federal Reserve. Even though my foundation applications were sponsored by the three leading poets of America, Ezra Pound, E.E. Cummings, and Elizabeth Bishop, all of the foundations refused to sponsor this research. I then wrote up my findings to date, and in 1950 began efforts to market this manuscript in New York. Eighteen publishers turned it down without comment, but the nineteenth, Devin Garrity, president of Devin Adair Publishing Company, gave me some friendly advice in his office. "I like your book, but we can’t print it," he told me. "Neither can anybody else in New York. Why don’t you bring in a prospectus for your novel, and I think we can give you an advance. You may as well forget about getting the Federal Reserve book published. I doubt if it could ever be printed."

This was devastating news, coming after two years of intensive work. I reported back to Pound, and we tried to find a publisher in other parts of the country. After two years of fruitless submissions, the book was published in a small edition in 1952 by two of Pound’s disciples, John Kasper and David Horton, using their private funds, under the title Mullins on the Federal Reserve. In 1954, a second edition, with unauthorized alterations, was published in New Jersey, as The Federal Reserve Conspiracy. In 1955, Guido Roeder brought out a German edition in Oberammergau, Germany. The book was seized and the entire edition of 10,000 copies burned by government agents led by Dr. Otto John.
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OxQQme Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:02 PM
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9. More Fed



http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html



Chart of who "owns" the Federal Reserve

Chart 1

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
Published 1976

Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks. Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.

N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
______________________________________
| |
| J. Henry Schroder

| Banking | Corp.
| |
Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | |
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
& Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
| | / | N.Y. |
| | | | | |
| Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
| / /
| / Lord Airlie
| / /
| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
|

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