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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 06:18 PM
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The Great Wall of The War on Terror
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 07:08 PM by indigobusiness
Much like The Great Wall of China, which was ostensibly built to protect the good people of Ming Dynasty China from the invasion of heathen Mongol horde, but was actually a ploy by a wise and manipulative ruler to keep the minions occupied for a lifetime so there would be neither time nor energy for fomenting internal unrest....such is "The War on Terror".

Winning "The War on Terror" is as realistic as winning "The War on Drugs": equally as disingenuous in definition and prosecuted in equally bad faith. "The War on Terror" is a knee-jerk response to the window of opportunity provided by 911, and was set in motion by the staggeringly swift industrial manifesto spawn of neocon wetdreams.

The war machine is a self-licking ice-cream cone, brilliantly delineated by Pentagon analyst Chuck Spinney in this intvw with Bill Moyers.

We are caught in a shell-game that will make us all losers. The least we can do is change the meme that "The War on Terror" is winnable.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:16 PM
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1.  More Chuck Spinney--The Future of War, Deception at the Pentagon, etc
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 07:20 PM by indigobusiness
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:34 PM
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2. CHUCK SPINNEY EXPLAINS IT ALL
Longtime Pentagon Insider Shows How the Big Corrupt Game is played

EXCERPT: I don't want to diminish the terrorist threat in people's minds. The problem is that if you start thinking about how you deal with these kinds of threats, you don't need B-2's. You don't need ballistic missile defense. You don't need Comanche helicopters. Basically what you need are really highly trained individuals that are basically... understand economics, anthropology, and as well as fighting, particularly in close quarters combat which is the most difficult form of fighting. And basically that these guys can insert themselves and infiltrate these nodes at lower levels of distinction. Not this nation v. nation conflict.

http://www.riprense.com/antiwarzone.htm (scroll down)
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:57 PM
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3. Snippet
MOYERS: So we keep spending big money on those old systems even…

SPINNEY: For the wrong threat.

MOYERS: But America has just won a war against Iraq. I mean, some people would say, look, somebody must be doing something right.

SPINNEY: Well, the first thing I would say is Iraq has been under sanctions for ten years or so. They have a defense budget of 1.8 billion. Most of their equipment is vintage Soviet equipment. They're untrained. We spend $460 billion when you count the supplemental for fighting the war to take out Iraq in a month. If you can't do that for $460 billion what can you do?

MOYERS: Is this $400 billion Congressionally approved budget a scandal in your mind?

SPINNEY: Yes. It isn't gonna fix our problems. It's certainly unnecessary. And you can't look at this budget in isolation. This budget is being put into place, and it's gonna generate an enormous tail in the out years because we're politically engineering all these programs and building up all this support in the Congressional districts. It's gonna be very difficult to turn this spending off.

MOYERS: This strikes me as somewhat mad.

SPINNEY: It is. We're in Versailles on the Potomac. It's Ver… we basically exist for ourselves. And we live in a hall of mirrors. It's a good metaphor.

http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_spinney.html
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:47 PM
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4. Peace is "winnable"...War is endless.
Clarification.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:53 PM
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5. Excellent insights
and don't forget the other "benefit" of the Wall of the War on Terror -- the fear factor. Primary motivator.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:26 PM
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6. Thanks for that.
I was determined to flog this until I got at least one positive response.

I can relax now.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:05 AM
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7. How Much Are You Making On The War Daddy? +The Moral Sewer on Potomac
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:58 PM
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8. Kick--I hope people are reading this.
It is worth digging through.
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