So what other ways do you get information other then torture?

[Neoma]

This person is saying its the only way to get information in war.
I'm trying to say no, help.

[scottxyz]

1. You don't get information from torture

You usually get lies and made-up fantasies from someone who has no idea what you're asking about.

Particularly when you're torturing an Iraqi about info on 9-11, when 9-11 was done by Afghans and Saudis.

[Neoma]

2. Thanks!

[manic expression]

7. There was an Iraqi who was tortured

by the US, who "confessed" to being Osama bin Laden. You're totally right on that one.

[Cleita]

3. They used to have a spy network that

got intelligence by stealth and deceit, however, this system seems to have been pretty much dismantled with the Valerie Plame affair, and is no doubt non-existent anymore.

[theorist]

4. Intelligence comes from human assets.

The whole point of the CIA is to secretly infiltrate the highest ranks of governments and rogue organizations, e.g. terrorist groups. The structure of insurgencies makes this fundamentally difficult. If you've seen the excellent film The Battle of Algiers, you know what I'm talking about.

Even if you cut off the "head" of a terrorist or insurgency group, it just grows another one. There is no real leader or figurehead to an organization like this--just a loosely connected group of allies and small cells. You wouldn't want any one member to know more than a handful of the other members (and never by name). It's all common sense. You cannot defeat a popular insurgency, no matter how hard you try. Just think about it.

[Lars39]

5. Also point out that whatever torture is being meted

out to prisoners, the same or worse torture will be given to US soldiers. Torture=war crimes.

[Neoma]

6. kk

He said quote:

News Flash: We dont cut the heads off of prisoners, so they got one up over us.

[Generator]

8. As is typical of all the Bush following idiots

Torture isn't just wrong, it doesn't work. See, like Saddam in prison is going to stop that next terrorist getting on a plane and ramming it into your downtown landmark. Fallacious and incompetent.

Clue #1 Nothing they say is true, and they can't tie their own shoes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2302-2005Jan11.html

Or listen to Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who conducted interrogations in Vietnam, Panama and Iraq during Desert Storm, and who was sent by the Pentagon in 2003 -- long before Abu Ghraib -- to assess interrogations in Iraq. Aside from its immorality and its illegality, says Herrington, torture is simply "not a good way to get information." In his experience, nine out of 10 people can be persuaded to talk with no "stress methods" at all, let alone cruel and unusual ones. Asked whether that would be true of religiously motivated fanatics, he says that the "batting average" might be lower: "perhaps six out of ten." And if you beat up the remaining four? "They'll just tell you anything to get you to stop."

[Swamp Rat]

9. What would Jesus do?

Ask that turd if he is a Christian and then pop the question. Hammer him with Jesus. :D