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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:46 AM
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How can CNN call this POS a poll?!
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 01:49 AM by latteromden
"(CNN) -- President Bush's State of the Union address raised support for his policies on health care and Social Security among people who watched the speech, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll conducted Wednesday night.

The percentage of respondents who said the president's proposals in those areas will help the country rose 15 points from when the same question was asked of the same people in the two days before the speech."

...

BUT! Here's the kicker: "The strong positives for the president's policies may in part be a reflection of the poll's sample. Of the 485 people surveyed, 52 percent identified themselves as Republicans, 25 percent as Democrats and 22 percent as independents."

52% Republicans, and they tout this as an accurate poll?!

Edit: forgot link! http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/02/sotu.poll/index.html
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:48 AM
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1. They actually said that out loud?
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 01:48 AM by tasteblind
edit to ask, link?
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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:49 AM
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2. Oops, sorry! I edited to put the link in.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:55 AM
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4. Man, they buried that very crucial information.
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 01:56 AM by tasteblind
Five paragraphs in. Like:

Our poll says this.

Fifteen percent increase.

This many people participated.

70 percent approved.

Even more with Iraq.

Iraq still most important.

Paragraph FIVE: This poll MIGHT be meaningless, because more than half the sample identified themselves as Republican.

Stop reading CNN.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:50 AM
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3. and they were fed kool-aid just before the speech...
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:58 AM
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5. I think they are desperate for some sliver of a positive angle on
the SOTU address. How pathetic! The CNN poll I saw earlier had nothing to do with this.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 02:01 AM
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6. wtf?
"The strong positives for the president's policies may in part be a reflection of the poll's sample...." 52% repub... What a blatant example of yellow journalism. But, of course, they rely on most readers never going beyond the damn headline!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:14 AM
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7. That's Today's CNNServative Audience
With "stars" like Wolfman Blitzer, Paula Zahn, Mrs. Rush Limbaugh, Novakula and others leading the way, no surprise they're polling a lot more Repugnicans now. Many of us Democrats tuned off.

I don't know many of my friends who bothered to watch this tripe tonight. I sure didn't and have no interest. If they had called here (which they would never do), they'd get an earful and then figure I was "no opinion" since I didn't give them the push-poll response they wanted.
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:19 AM
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8. LOL
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 03:21 AM by LiberalPersona
The strong positives for the president's policies may in part be a reflection of the poll's sample. Of the 485 people surveyed, 52 percent identified themselves as Republicans, 25 percent as Democrats and 22 percent as independents.

No shit, where did they get that idea? I'm sure only a statistician could see that a huge lopsided sampling like that would result in positive results for Bush.

I can't help but laugh at that.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:21 AM
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9. Isn't it true that most people who describe themselves as "independents"
vote Republican? Seems like I read that somewhere- and I've got to think it's truer than ever nowadays, with the high number of Republicans that disapprove of the job Bush is doing.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:48 AM
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10. They probably couldn't find enough Dems and Indies to poll
...who watched the SOTU.
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