Any of you guys around here know anybody killed by Evolution?

[MrScorpio]

A close friend or relative slain "a concept that has killed more people than all religions that ever existed?"

http://www.itaffectsyou.org/blog/index.php?p=482

Ahh, yeah me neither.

But's that what the fundies are up to now. Of course, this is old news. They've been after evolution forever. But like Maureen Dowd says, Bush and his crew of psychos won't be satisfied by rolling the country back to the fifties, they want to erase the entire Twentieth Century.

Dammit. So much for my flying cars.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

1. Can you say "Taliban West"

[spunky]

2. what the hell does that mean? How does evolution kill? n/t

[The White Tree]

5. I think the refers to Social Darwinism and the survival of the fittest

From what I understand of the issue, the Catholic Church for a long time refused to recognize evolution because the theory was used in to explain all manner of disregard for the poor and other races. Some people claimed that buisnesses were subject to the laws of survival of the fittest and as such had to do whtever, regardless of ethical concerns, to survive.

Sadly this is a gross perversion of the idea behind the theory of evolution.

[Johonny]

20. Yeah

I think your right it's the Social Darwinist and the American Eugenics movement that they are reffering to. And yes people were hurt and killed in this movement. Mostly through Nazi Germany. Both because Social Darwinist had emigration to the US restricted stranding many in Hitlers path, while Eugenics happy Germans then wiped them out. While both both movements misadapted Darwinian evolutionary mechanisms they are infact not direct applications of Evolution. Nor to the point does anyone think had these theories not existed people would have turned to religion to support Nazi Germany or restictive emmigration. (which in fact they did anyways).

[meegbear]

3. Well my neighbor's cousin's aunt's hairdresser's sister ...

knows somebody who said they know someone who was killed by evolution. Or was it a bus? I forget.

[XemaSab]

4. Lots of people have been killed by evolution....

...anyone with a fatal birth defect or other genetic anomaly who didn't live long enough to produce viable offspring. (This isn't evolution, it's natural selection, but the twain go hand in hand.)

Of course, in order to take this view, you have to believe that evolution exists as a process. Which the fundies don't.

[spunky]

7. That's just silly. That's genetics killing you, not evolution

"Evolution" can't kill. If the weak die, its not evolution that killed them. Its their genetic defect. And that's not quite the same thing. Evolution is for those that survive, isn't it?

Besides, if you don't believe in evolution, didn't god kill them? Just a thought.

[atommom]

6. And what the hell is "communistic evolution"?

"Communistic evolution, according to the Senate committee that examined it, is responsible for 135 million deaths in peacetime," he said. "There's no religion that has a tiny fraction of that many deaths on it conscience." And it is amazing, he added, that evolution -- despite its widespread acceptance -- has no scientific basis. "There are scientists who will admit that there's not one iota of scientific evidence to support it."

Maybe there are some scientists who say that ("scientists" being a very broad term), but the vast majority of biologists would laugh them out of the room.

I still think that religion has many more deaths on its conscience than any scientific theory ever will.

[Bridget Burke]

13. Lysenkoism was the Stalinist version of Evolution....

Non-scientific & abandoned only in 1965, it impeded biological science in the USSR for many years.

[atommom]

16. He must trust that his audience won't know that he's referring to

a theory that was discredited 40 years ago! I'd heard of Lysenkoism, but didn't expect to see it pop up in this context. Does he realize how lame his argument is? :shrug:

I still don't see any bodies on Darwin's doorstep...

[orestes]

8. Dont know of anyone killed by evolution

but evolution did turn me into a newt.

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. How are you feeling now? (n/t)

[orestes]

23. I got better

[Cocoa]

9. the trilobites

the dinosaurs, etc.

[w13rd0]

10. My brothers sisters uncles fathers nephews friends boss...

...died a tragic untimely death when Evolution, without warning and leaving no time for a last minute prayer or confession, swooped down on him and swallowed him whole.

[Coastie for Truth]

11. The teaching of ID and Creationism KILLS

I am a Type 2 diabetic - and research in Canada, Japan, South Korea, the Peoples Republic of China, Switzerland, Israel, but not in my native land, the USA indicates that certain stem cell research is leading to more effective management of Type 2 diabetes.

But the right wing fundie evangelicals - who have captured the GOP -- and MISTER Leon Kass - who claims to be a physician and bioethicist -- are killing me.

They are preventing this research in the USA - as I die a little every day.

This is because the fundie evangelical right wing (Jim Wallis is ok) - the same fundie evangelical right wing who advocate ID and creationism, have conflated stem cell research with abortion, and conflated abortion with murder. They don't care if I am the innocent drive by shooting victim of their attempt to establish right wing fundie evangelical superstition as a state religion.

And I am not even a Christian. My religion, per Moses Maimonides, not merely permits stem cell research to save lives - but encourages it.

So - the right wing fundie evangelicals are not merely seeking to establish their religion -- they are trying to keep me from the free exercise of my religion.

So, creationism and creationists kill.

[Rob H.]

12. No, but Evolution hid my car keys once

:P

[ProfessorGAC]

14. Well, Yeah! Everyone, Right?

If not for evolution, we wouldn't have lasted several hundred thousand years. So, everyone who's ever lived and has died is a victim of evoluation. Right?

This is a tautology. I know the idiot who wrote the article didn't mean it this way. But, everyone accidently gets something right! Even someone as dim as the author of your link.
The Professor

[BeFree]

19. Yep, everyone.

Evolution is change. Change scares conservatives. Therefore evolution scares conservatives.

They are confident that a book written two thousand years ago is all they need to know. Any deviation or change from that book scares them.

Evolution will change them, just as it changes all of us. They too, will be dirt.

[One_Life_To_Give]

15. Antibiotic Resistant Staf?

I think plenty of people have been killed by Antibiotic Resistant Staf infections. Which is a result of the evolution of Bacterium. So yes, people have died because of evolution.

[yellowcanine]

17. The only "wall that is going to come tumbling down" is Kennedy's wall of

arrogance when he is exposed for the ignorant fraud that he is. He has to be the most arrogant purveyor of religious quackery on TV. And one has to wonder, has Kennedy ever heard of the cammandment not to bear false witness against your (evolutionist) neighbor?

[killbotfactory]

18. EVERYBODY

We are all going to die, and it's all evolutions fault! If we had just remained primordial ooze this tragedy never would have happened!

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. Zaphod Beeblebrox and Trillian

The Haggunennons of Azizatus Three have the most impatient chromosomes of any life-forms in the galaxy. Where as most races are content to evolve slowly and carefully over thousands of generations - discarding a prehensile toe here, nervously hazarding another nostril there, the Haggunennons would do for Charles Darwin what a squadron of Arcturan Stunt-Apples would have done for Sir Isaac Newton. Their genetic structure, based on the quadruple-striated octo-helix, is so chronically unstable, that far from passing their basic shape onto their children, they will quite frequently evolve several times over lunch. But they do this with such reckless abandon that if, sitting at table, they are unable to reach a coffee spoon, they are liable without a moments consideration to mutate into something with far longer arms - but which is probably quite incapable of drinking the coffee. This, not unnaturally, produces a terrible sense of personal insecurity and a jealous resentment of all stable life-forms, or “filthy rotten stinking samelings” as they call them. They justify this by claiming that as they have personally experienced what it is like to be virtually everybody else they can think of, they are in a very good position to appreciate all their worst points. This appreciation is usually military in nature and is carried out with unmitigated savagery from the gunrooms of their horribly beweaponed, chameleoid death flotilla. Experience has shown that the most effective way of dealing with any Haggunennon you may meet is to run away… terribly fast.
...
ZAPHOD:
That chair is scratching its leg.

TRILLIAN:
It’s just been asleep all this time.

FORD:
Arthur! For god’s sake get back here quick!

ZAPHOD:
Yeah stand up when you sit on the admiral, primate!

TRILLIAN:
It’s moving! Look, it’s starting to evolve!

(A loud roar)

ZAPHOD:
(Screams)

FORD:
Eat your heart out Galapagos Islands.

ZAPHOD:
G-force you know what that is?

TRILLIAN:
Let me guess, terrible! Am I wrong?

(Another loud roar)

ZAPHOD:
It’s a carbon copy of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal - or I’m a Vogon’s Grandmother!

ARTHUR:
The Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal! Is it safe?

(Sound of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal salivating)

FORD:
Oh Yes! It’s perfectly safe - it’s just us who are in trouble. If that’s the admiral and he still wants his coffee it ain’t sponge fingers he’s gonna dunk in it.

(A loud roar)

ZAPHOD:
Wuuahhhhhhhh!

TRILLIAN:
Ford! Throw some furniture at it!

FORD:
What do I do?! Pick up this table by the ears?

ARTHUR:
(Shouts)Oh god, the whole place is coming alive!

(We hear the contents of the spaceship slowly waking up…)

ZAPHOD:
Yeah, and we’re coming dead!

TRILLIAN:
These ashtrays! Just turned into a jar full of anacondas!

ZAPHOD:
Just- just tell it we’ll let them know!

TRILLIAN:
Ah! Urgh!

FORD:
Get off me you filthy sofa!

ARTHUR:
God! And I thought Times Furnishing was a riffing!

ZAPHOD:
(Shouts)

FORD:
Arthur and I’ll take this one! Zaphod you and the others take the left-hand one!

ZAPHOD:
Right!

(Over the roaring we hear the escape capsule opening)

FORD:
Press the go start Arthur.

(The escape capsule leaves the ship)

http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/THHGTTG/THHGTTGradio6.htm

Or did they? Tune in to later, highly contradictory episodes, to find out ...

[patdem]

24. Not but Newton's theory of gravitation nearly took me out once!

Newton's theory of gravitation was highly successful. There was little reason to question it except for one weakness which was to explain how each of the two bodies knew the other was there. Some profound remarks about gravitation were made by Maxwell in 1864. His major work A dynamical theory of the electromagnetic field (1864) was written

... to explain the electromagnetic action between distant bodies without assuming the existence of forces capable of acting directly at sensible distances.

See, there were even doubters of THAT theory!