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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:06 PM
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What idiot would let Bush dictate where they can invest their SS funds?
We already know how much the return on our contributions will be under the present Social Security system and when we will receive our money. Anyone here stupid enough to trust Bush and the pack of money grubbers who would be cherry-picked to manage this magic bond scheme deserves to fail. Especially if their venture is being bankrolled by those of us who have kept faith with the existing program.

Any money that is used will be borrowed from foreign investors who now hold over 40% of our trillion-some debt. Some predicted today that that debt will rise to two trillion after the initial investment. With this new ambition of Bushies to spread freedom and democracy all over the globe (actually only where they can steal oil and resources) we should be deep in debt way past the point where Bush is so concerned about "burdening future generations". If we would just stop now in Iraq, give them back their oil, they would eventually revert back to the prosperity they enjoyed before we first imposed sanctions and starved everyone there except Saddam Hussein and his henchmen. If we would have left the Batthists in power, who we used to keep Iran in check, we wouldn't have to contemplate using our military and money to halt any threatening expansion. Now we are on the verge of a government in Iraq that will contain many of the same elements that we spent years and dollars suppressing. Who doesn't believe that this pack of liars will keep us in perpetual conflict and debt as they siphon off any profit in fees and interest? Who has forgotten the canard when Greenspan derided the 'surplus' we achieved under Bill Clinton and stood by as Bush talked down our economy before taking office?

If we cut off the wealthy bastards who stood by while Bush raided our treasury and gave them the bulk of our tax contributions with his record tax breaks, as we were forced to scramble for the scattered remains of precious meal from the pigs trough, we could easily keep faith with our commitments to Social Security, Veterans, recipients of Medicare and Medicaid, and whatever else is given short shrift with these money-grubbers.

Whatever scheme Bush wants to foist off on us, he needs to be reminded that it's not his money. This Republican administration is a reflection of that tiny percentage of the nation's citizens who have maintained their wealth and influence through the last century. Despite the persistent poverty of generations of Americans who work and struggle with no guarantee of success or survival, this same working-class of people routinely elevate these power-brokers to the cadre of the privileged few who would lord over their wealth in the offices of our government.

With our votes, cast for hollow promises of representation in the division and disposition of our contributions of blood and sacrifice, we assure their ascendancy to that two-percent confederation of corporate interests who routinely divide the fruits of our labor for their own benefit and purpose. That two-percent confederation of corporate interests in our government perpetuate their class in and out of office by manipulating our precious contributions to democracy; from federal appropriations; to corporate tax breaks; and through sly deregulation schemes that allow them to slough off their responsibilities to worker safety, or to the protection of the community and the environment.

Our chastened electorate is now forced to watch as their government turns its back on their interests and concerns and hijacks their labor and their fortunes to assist a shallow set of corporate interests; to effect the dismantling of our compact, and the usurping of our democracy. The nation's disenfranchised majority are too afraid, or too disillusioned to dislodge these monied usurpers; or too busy in their own struggle to involve themselves in a close examination of the deliberate tangle of legislation. Our cynical electorate routinely turns away from the political process and leaves the division of the product of our labor and sacrifice to those who have the least needs or merit.

We have been forced to endure a trumped-up, bloody invasion of a sovereign country and in the theft of its oil and its resources and the occupation and auctioning of the vanquished country's industry away from its citizens. And we have been forced to endure the shackling of countless generations of Americans to a corporate agenda of U.S. world domination, supported by the perpetual sacrifice of the lives and blood of generations of our sons and daughters in a continuous world war.

Any fool who would break off from our compact with each other that Franklin Roosevelt described as a "measure of protection to the average citizen and to his family against the loss of a job and against poverty-ridden old age", deserves whatever fleecing that will be the inevitable result of entrusting their future to whatever fate designed by the wealthy brokers and foreign investors Bush and his cronies have lined up as they lead them up the shit creek.

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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:14 PM
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1. The same idiots who voted for him
Need you ask? It seems there are 30-35% of hard-core disciples of St. Simian and they would follow him over the cliff.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:16 PM
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3. I love "St. Simian". Perfect.
Thank you.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:47 AM
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11. I agree
Those who voted will just say things like how they can do better with their money and they're greedy. Did anybody see on the Daily show this week the thing with Samantha Bee?
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:14 PM
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2. Come on
don't be shy, share your opinion with us.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:17 PM
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4. I believe
most people think they will be able to put their money wherever they want with shrubs plan. They don't understand shrub already knows who will control the money.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:24 PM
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5. Bingo!
well said!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:50 PM
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6. Thanks Blue
gotta go to work now . . . sigh . . .
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:25 AM
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7. * Is Telling the Masses That - "After all it's your money"....
He will deceive people again and make them think that they will be working with their own money - just like he did with the tax cut and the $300 check. Bait & Switch - Ain't It a Bitch.

"Whatever scheme Bush wants to foist off on us, he needs to be reminded that it's not his money."
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:19 AM
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8. Er..
As Iraq was a lie it's good to have Saddam out. Bush did it over a failed attack on his dad...and oil. I trust Republicians as far as I can throw the Moon off course but at least it's optional. I have been planning to save money and invest it in CDs so I can have my own retirement.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:28 AM
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9. The money that some erstwhile youth will intend to invest is yours also
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 09:31 AM by bigtree
Yours and my tax contributions, or more precicely, borrowed money as the national debt will still be active when they are due to collect on their investment. Of course, if we keep going like we are, with perpetual wars and tax givaways to the wealthy, we will be paying several times over as we service the interest on that debt. Future generations will not escape that burden.

Social Security works because it is universal, in that it is participated in equitibly by rich and poor alike. If Bush succeeds in splitting younger workers who presumably have the wherewithal to shoulder the risk, than I fear those remaining will get short shrift, transforming the system into more of a public assistance program, marginalizing the recipients as charity cases instead of treating their benefits as the entitlement that was intended.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:42 AM
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10. True
My main goal of CDs, 401(k)s, et al is so I don't have to collect Social Security and help slightly relieve that debt. It's sad but many genrations will have to pick up the tab of politicians that can't run a nation within it's means.
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