Question with Jesse Jackson

[FreedomAngel82]

On this Christian board I go on (there are non-Bush's on there which is nice) someone made a post about the 50 most influental Christian's from "Time" and Jesse Jackson is listed and some people on there were totally dissing him and of course I got really upset and fired back. Someone even made a comment about how Jackson was probably involved in the MLK jr shooting and how they heard from some right-wing talk show host (forgot who, I think Rush or someone like that) and said how Jackson was lying when he wasn't there when MLK jr got shot. I was wondering if anybody knew about this and do they have any photos of Jackson around MLK marching and stuff? Thanks in advanced.

[msgadget]

1. Jesse did march with Dr. King

but there was some controversy at the time about his whereabouts when the fatal bullet was fired. Of course he had nothing to do with the shooting.



However, this weak argument certainly wouldn't exclude him from the list when Falwell and Robertson had the following to say immediately following 9/11:

"The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this … I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way—all of them who have tried to secularize America—I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'" Falwell's rationale is that the secularization of America has provoked God "to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."

700 Club host Pat Robertson, who said he "totally concurs" with Falwell's assessment, has been preaching a similar message for days. "It is happening because God Almighty is lifting his protection from us," he said in a statement quoted by the Associated Press. "We have a court that has essentially stuck its finger in God's eye. … We have insulted God at the highest level of our government. Then, we say, 'Why does this happen?'"

Edit to correct name.

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Thank you

for this. Do you have any photo's of Jackson marching with King? Thanks in advanced. I appreciate that photo.

[msgadget]

3. You're welcome.

Nope, I don't have a photo of them marching together but you might find one by doing an online search. That he marched with Dr.King is indisputable and anyone familiar with and respectful of the Civil Rights movement knows that.

[EC]

4. Geez, they say that about every bad occurrence,

that's why 9/11 happened, that's why good people are assassinated, blah, blah, blah....


There was speculation that Farrakhan had quite allot to do with it...who knows...

[FreedomAngel82]

5. It really made me upset

how they were so rude to Jackson for fighting for civil rights. Just like how people treated King when he was a live. Funny how when they're a live they smear and smash them but then when they're dead they're remembered as great. :eyes: Go figure.

[msgadget]

7. If the right or this president

really honored Dr. King, there'd have been no voter disenfranchisement in 2000 or 2004 or ballot initiatives against gay marriage or this war. In fact, if they truly honored him, Dr. Rice would've apologized for saying the Civil Rights Movement really wasn't necessary, since things would've 'worked out'...

I don't know about your online group but the right is playing the race card the same way they twisted Chritianity to influence a type of voter. Their disdain shows at the edges.

[EC]

9. Goggle and see what Bush did every MLK day.....

last year he was trying to knock out affirmative action and this year he slighted the NAACP and went stomping against abortion, which of course is usually increased by poverty which is one of the institutional bigotries results...all the while doing photo ops with Carlotta and putting a wreath at the grave....

I heard an analogy to the swearing in this year about how it reminded the writer of the scene in The Godfather with the baptism in split screen to the hits that were taking place at the same time...because while he was being sworn in, a family of Iraqis were being wiped out, (the picture of the little girl with blood all over her) anyway, that's how in my minds eye I've seen him on Martin Luther Kings Day, wiping out some civil right, with the split screen of him placing the wreath on the grave.(although in 2004 he was in Atlanta campaigning but couldn't find the time to go to the grave) (this year he made sure he did)

[msgadget]

11. Oh, I never forgot and

was furious through the holiday, inauguration and confirmation hearings. In truth, I'm furious at his playing the race card to this extent with no one calling him on it, the Martin Luther King disrespect in particular.

Whenever he and Dr. Rice mentioned Birmingham, why didn't anyone point out how Alabama voted to keep school segregation in 2004? Just another in a growing list of hypocrisies.

I didn't hear or read of that analogy but you've passed on a visual that'll stay with me awhile.

[EC]

13. Jesse Jackson DID...

and every MLK day, he's written articles about Bush's hypocracy...

[msgadget]

14. You're right

but he shouldn't be the only one. In fact, the dems should've prepared for the Rice backlash with more attention to the holiday and quotes from King. Instead we see a photo of another Civil Rights leader on Frist's website and hear every other republican getting up to question Rice refer to Dr. King and/or the movement. That's why I'm pissed...oops, there I go! Really, it'd be too easy for me to go off a tangent ...

[Flubadubya]

18. msgadget, please elucidate...

I have done several searches now regarding this quote that you attribute to C. Rice regarding the Civil Rights Movement being "unnecessary" as things would have 'worked out'. I can't find that anywhere. Not that I doubt it for a moment, but could you please provide a link for that? I would really like to have the documentation on that one! Thanks.

[EC]

8. They are afraid of them when they are alive...

what they don't understand is that they're strength is still alive even after they are dead, and maybe even more strong and empowering because they died before the right could smear their name....

[msgadget]

6. Well, we know Farrakhan had nothing to do with it

and though he also had something to say about the country being punished for 'sinking into moral decline' he managed far more hope and blessings on the US.

I, on behalf of all the members of the Nation of Islam and on behalf of many millions of Muslims here in America and throughout the world, lift our voices to condemn this vicious and atrocious attack on the United States. In this very dark hour in American and world history, the greatest need for us and for the leadership of this nation is Divine Guidance.

...

President Bush answered, saying, they hate us because we’re the beacon light of freedom. They hate us because we’re good. They hate us because we are the land of opportunity. And others say they hate us because they envy us because of the way we live and the wealth that we have. Pastors and preachers and Reverend Franklin Graham said that they hate us because we’re Christians and they want us all to be Muslims. With all due respect to our President and to these esteemed religious leaders, that is not the best answer to that question.

I can speak on behalf of Muslims, and I must say that no Muslim hates a Christian because he’s a Christian and believes in Jesus Christ. This is a mosque, and there are thousands of mosques in America and millions of mosques across the globe. There are 1,250,000,000 (one billion two hundred and fifty million) Muslims, and every one of us believe in Jesus. This book Qur’an refers to Jesus in the same language that Christians refer to him as Jesus the son of Mary, the Messiah. To say we hate Christians because you’re Christians is wrong. These are, at best, surface answers to what produced this tragedy. If the perpetrators hated us because we’re Christians, they did not kill just Christians. According to the figures that I heard, 1,400 Muslims work in the World Trade Center and are missing or dead. The perpetrators killed Black and White, Asian and Hispanic, Jews and Christians, Agnostics, Hindus and Buddhists. This is why it was a crime against humanity.

[EC]

10. They also tried to smear Malcom X by blaming him too

Both of them were being smeared as co-conspirators of the Murder of King...

[msgadget]

12. It figures.

:crazy:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Farrakhan Has Been Implicated In The Assassination of Malcom X

Don't forget Malcom X repudiated the Nation Of Islam and became a Muslim...


Also, it would be impossible to implicate Malcom X in King's assassination because Malcom had been assassinated three years earlier...

[scarletlib]

15. I believe Jesse is a good man and as good a Christian as anyone

He is not a saint. Who is?

He was with MLK Jr. in Memphis when he was shot. I don't know if Jesse was actually with MLK Jr. at that exact moment but he was in Memphis.

Not so long ago Jesse was talking on some program about how he ended up working for Dr. King. Jesse was a young, poor kid from South Carolina when he got the opportunity to work for Dr. King. Jesse said the salary was low, benefits were none, and at that time you had the opportunity of being killed while working for Dr. King. As a result not many people were beating down the doors to take the job. For Jesse though it was a major opportunity.

I think he has grown and deepened over the years in his commitment to justice for all Americans.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. There's No Denying Jackson Was One Of Dr. King's Lieutenants...

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