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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:26 AM
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Documents reveal CIA recruited five of Eichmann's Nazi associates
Five of Adolph Eichmann's Nazi assistants were recruited and employed by the Central Intelligence Agency after World War II, according to recently declassified intelligence documents.

The information came to light after a lengthy battle waged by the non-profit group, The National Security Archive, whose goal is to expose government documents under the framework of the Freedom of Information Act.

The newly-revealed documents are based on internal investigations in the CIA's history department. The agency has steadfastly refused to make the documents public for fear they would cause embarassment.

The revelations cast a negative light not only on American intelligence activity but also the U.S. Army's conduct in Germany at the conclusion of the war. The military made efforts to recruit members of the SS and the Gestapo into its ranks despite simultaenously waging a campaign of de-Nazification over vanquished Germany, a process which included arresting and trying Nazi war criminals.

http://test.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/536364.html

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:32 AM
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1. As Gomer Pyle would say...
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 10:32 AM by Karenina
Surprise... surprise.
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poe Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:35 AM
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2. More to Come
:kick:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:07 PM
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8. Are you saying that additional information will be published?
If so, will the American people be informed? (I hope, I hope, I hope!)
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:10 PM
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9. There's much much more to come.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:15 PM
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10. Really?
Please tell us what you mean by "There's much much more to come."
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:22 PM
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11. Well...
We still need to find out WHICH AMERICANS were tight enough with the Nazi war criminals to where they could serve as recruiters for Ike and Truman.

If you were a post-war Nazi, would you be willing to meet with Dwight or Harry? No way.

WHICH AMERICANS do you think they asked to put this whole thing together?

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:43 PM
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12. So, FINALLY, the Octapus will be revealed?
Will that network be revealed to the American people?

That is my question.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:54 AM
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20. No, The Spider
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:46 AM
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3. I suppose some might see the irony
in the timing of this revelation and Ward Churchill's "little Eichmann" controversy.
Then again, the 'average' person won't have heard this story, but plenty about that 'traitor' Churchill.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:45 PM
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13. I wonder if the "Deep Throat" intrigue ties into all this.
This is the craziest damned country *LOL* with the craziest people having pulled everyone's strings!

It's just bizarre.
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poe Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 02:42 PM
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16. perfect
what's happening to m. shahid alam at neastern in boston, to ignacio chapela at uc-berkley, to ward churchill at uc-boulder to.....connect the dots
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:41 AM
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4. They wanted to upgrade their own thuggery.
It worked.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:58 AM
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5. Did they or their successors work in the CIA offices at the WTC?
Inquiring minds want to know?
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:04 PM
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7. That could never happen.
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 12:05 PM by clem_c_rock
We have a nice "Freedom" type government.

Say 100 times daily for proper mental health.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 02:32 PM
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15. hmmmm,...
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:02 PM
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6. Just when I doubt the Illuminati exists. Evidence to support it pops up
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 12:04 PM by clem_c_rock
There's the 8 step plan to provoke the Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor, Prescott Bush's funding of Nazi's, this Eichmann/CIA shit, the Gulf of Tonkin, operation Northwoods, 911 and all the little episodes that so perfectly followed this "Terrorist" attack.

When do we finally wake up and just start assuming everything we're being told has a good chance to be a f***ing lie??

Public opinion scares government more than a million H-bombs. They will stop at nothing to make sure it's on their side.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:41 PM
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14. Further discussion? eom
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 02:44 PM
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17. And we are surprised because? Where do you think Warner Von Braun...
came from???
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:27 PM
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18. How could a thread like this,...die? eom
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:03 AM
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22. I think because for many this is no surprise
Christian Nazis must have made excellent Christian CIA agents. Both being on the same page and all.

Don

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:57 AM
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25. There's a huge "Don't Say Hitler" crowd.
The truth is not even popular among Progressives.
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poe Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:37 PM
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19. A Bit of Historical Background
There was also an operation involving the Vatican, the US State Department and British intelligence, which took some of the worst Nazi criminals and used them, at first in Europe. For example, Klaus Barbie, the butcher of Lyon , was taken over by US intelligence and put back to work.

Later, when this became an issue, some of his US supervisors didn't understand what the fuss was all about. After all, we'd moved in-we'd replaced the Germans. We needed a guy who would attack the left-wing resistance, and here was a specialist. That's what he'd been doing for the Nazis, so who better could we find to do exactly the same job for us?

When the Americans could no longer protect Barbie, they moved him over to the Vatican-run "ratline," where Croatian Nazi priests and others managed to spirit him off to Latin America. There he continued his career. He became a big drug lord and narco-trafflcker, and was involved in a military coup in Bolivia-all with US support.

But Barbie was basically small potatoes. This was a big operation, involving many top Nazis. We managed to get Walter Rauff, the guy who created the gas chambers, off to Chile. Others went to fascist Spain.

General Reinhard Gehlen was the head of German military intelligence on the eastern front. That's where the real war crimes were. Now we're talking about Auschwitz and other death camps. Gehlen and his network of spies and terrorists were taken over quickly by American intelligence and returned to essentially the same roles.

If you look at the American army's counterinsurgency literature (a lot of which is now declassified), it begins with an analysis of the German experience in Europe, written with the cooperation of Nazi officers. Everything is described from the point of view of the Nazis-which techniques for controlling resistance worked, which ones didn't. With barely a change, that was transmuted into American counterinsurgency literature. (This is discussed at some length by Michael McClintock in Instruments of Statecraft, a very good book that I've never seen reviewed.)

If you look at the American army's counterinsurgency literature (a lot of which is now declassified), it begins with an analysis of the German experience in Europe, written with the cooperation of Nazi officers. Everything is described from the point of view of the Nazis-which techniques for controlling resistance worked, which ones didn't. With barely a change, that was transmuted into American counterinsurgency literature. (This is discussed at some length by Michael McClintock in Instruments of Statecraft, a very good book that I've never seen reviewed.)

The US left behind armies the Nazis had established in Eastern Europe, and continued to support them at least into the early 1950s. By then the Russians had penetrated American intelligence, so the air drops didn't work very well any more.

You've said that if a real post-World War II history were ever written, this would be the first chapter.

It would be a part of the first chapter. Recruiting Nazi war criminals and saving them is bad enough, but imitating their activities is worse. So the first chapter would primarily describe US-and some British-operations throughout the world that aimed to destroy the anti-fascist resistance and restore the traditional, essentially fascist, order to power.

In Korea (where we ran the operation alone), restoring the traditional order meant killing about 100,000 people just in the late 1940s, before the Korean War began. In Greece, it meant destroying the peasant and worker base of the anti-Nazi resistance and restoring Nazi collaborators to power. When British and then American troops moved into southern Italy, they simply reinstated the fascist order-the industrialists. But the big problem came when the troops got to the north, which the Italian resistance had already liberated. The place was functioning- industry was running. We had to dismantle all of that and restore the old order.

Our big criticism of the resistance was that they were displacing the old owners in favor of workers' and community control. Britain and the US called this "arbitrary replacement" of the legitimate owners. The resistance was also giving jobs to more people than were strictly needed for the greatest economic efficiency (that is, for maximum profit-making). We called this "hiring excess workers."
In other words, the resistance was trying to democratize the workplace and to take care of the population. That was understandable, since many Italians were starving. But starving people were their problem-our problem was to eliminate the hiring of excess workers and the arbitrary dismissal of owners, which we did.

Our big criticism of the resistance was that they were displacing the old owners in favor of workers' and community control. Britain and the US called this "arbitrary replacement" of the legitimate owners. The resistance was also giving jobs to more people than were strictly needed for the greatest economic efficiency (that is, for maximum profit-making). We called this "hiring excess workers."
In other words, the resistance was trying to democratize the workplace and to take care of the population. That was understandable, since many Italians were starving. But starving people were their problem-our problem was to eliminate the hiring of excess workers and the arbitrary dismissal of owners, which we did.

Next we worked on destroying the democratic process. The left was obviously going to win the elections; it had a lot of prestige from the resistance, and the traditional conservative order had been discredited. The US wouldn't tolerate that. At its first meeting, in 1947, the National Security Council decided to withhold food and use other sorts of pressure to undermine the election.

But what if the communists still won? In its first report, NSC 1, the council made plans for that contingency: the US would declare a national emergency, put the Sixth Fleet on alert in the Mediterranean and support paramilitary activities to overthrow the Italian government.

That's a pattern that's been relived over and over. If you look at France and Germany and Japan, you get pretty much the same story.

Nicaragua is another case. You strangle them, you starve them, and then you have an election and everybody talks about how wonderful democracy is.

The person who opened up this topic (as he did many others) was Gabriel Kolko, in his classic book Politics of War in 1968. It was mostly ignored, but it's a terrific piece of work. A lot of the documents weren't around then, but his picture turns out to be quite accurate.


***
an interview of Noam Chomsky by David Barsamian
from the book Secrets, Lies and Democracy, published in 1994
Odonian Press
Box 32375


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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:35 AM
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21. It makes one wonder what...
the Pentqon and the CIA have been doing in the past few years and now.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:53 PM
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26. What makes me wonder is: If Hitler had died early, would we have accepted
There overtones for peace? That is a very scary thought
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:33 AM
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23. thank you
for posting that


Cher
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:47 AM
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24. What Uncle Sam Really Wants - Short Online Book of our FP since WWII

What Uncle Sam Really Wants



Noam Chomsky

Copyright © 1993
Table of Contents

The main goals of US foreign policy

1. Protecting our turf
2. The liberal extreme
3. The "Grand Area"
4. Restoring the traditional order
5. Our commitment to democracy
6. The threat of a good example
7. The three-sided world

Devastation abroad

1. Our Good Neighbor policy
2. The crucifixion of El Salvador
3. Teaching Nicaragua a lesson
4. Making Guatemala a killing field
5. The invasion of Panama
6. Inoculating Southeast Asia
7. The Gulf War
8. The Iran/contra cover-up
9. The prospects for Eastern Europe
10. The world's rent-a-thug

Brainwashing at home

1. How the Cold War worked
2. The war on (certain) drugs
3. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
4. Socialism, real and fake
5. The media

The Future

1. Things have changed
2. What you can do
3. The struggle continues
4. Notes

read online...
http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html


psst... pass the word

peace
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