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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:17 AM
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Goodbye to Roosevelt’s SS, Hello to Hitler’s SS
In Bush’s vision of Social Security, every U.S. citizen who signs up for so-called “privatization” will be required by the government to hand over -- to corporations of the government’s choosing -- a portion of their hard-earned money.

This is the final push towards fascism.

They already have the executive, the legislature, the judiciary, the military, and the so-called church. And now they’re attempting to completely erase the line between corporations and government. They are trying to convince us that it’s just fine and dandy for corporations to levy their own taxes.

No matter how they phrase it, that is EXACTLY what is happening with Social Security right now. Instead of handing money over to the government to the benefit of many, they want us to hand money over to corporations to the benefit of few.

If we do not contact our senators and representatives, and let them know exactly what is at stake, we are finished. Ask them to stop using code words like “privatization” and “personal accounts” and “investments.” Don’t forget, these are the same people who were so easily tricked into using language like “weapons of mass destruction” and “eminent threat” and “liberation.” Try to educate your leaders. Most of them do not understand what’s going on.

This is the end game.

This is the final push towards fascism.
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:22 AM
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1. Bush isn't Hittler
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:43 AM
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2. No, but he's working really hard to become Hitler
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
 
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
 
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
 
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
 
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
 
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
 
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
 
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
 
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
 
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
 
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
 
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
 
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
 
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
 
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:36 PM
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6. I didn't say he wasn't a fascist
I said he wasn't Hittler.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:37 PM
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7. You know, I was really hoping that I was just being paranoid...
...and buying into Internet scuttlebutt to feed my paranoia. This post has made me realize that no, I'm not being paranoid, and yes, now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.

Maybe not exactly Hitler...

Close enough for gubment work!
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:59 AM
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3. No, he's worse.
Hitler didn't have nukes.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:02 PM
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4. I agree that this is a decisive battle
possibly the most important battle of the last couple of years, and one we can win. But i don't think we will win if we paint it as a debate between fascism and democracy. I don't think the american people are likely to buy that comparison. Instead it needs to be between people who want to lie about the debate and people who want to tell the truth. Between finanical sanity and financial insanity.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:05 PM
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5. Adolf Hitler Is Alive and Well
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 12:08 PM by BuyingThyme
Why do people assume that when Hitler's conventional armies were defeated, his financial armies were similarly defeated? They were not.

The Bush Family is but one element of Adolf Hitler's financial network. The financial armies are no less evil than the conventional armies.

Is this really so hard to understand? Is the evidence not clear enough?
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