What will happen if Deep Throat is somebody we hate?

[Dookus]

rumors are flying - Poppy Bush... Rehnquist....

Since 1974, I have believed Deep Throat engaged in an act of great nobility and honor. But I'm seeing some signs in this thread that if it's someone like Poppy, we're going to re-write history to make Deep Throat into a scoundrel.

Boy, it's gonna be tough if it's someone like Poppy...

[lazarus]

1. It's easy

Somebody can do something really, really good out of evil motivation.

[tx_dem41]

2. Its neither one of those two...

so, unless its Kissinger (which I don't believe it is), why worry about it?

That said, history is history. Any attempt to rewrite it is reprehensible.

[peacetalksforall]

12. Are we rewriting? We're not even sure that there was a deep throat. We

didn't know who it was, if there was such a person. How do you rewrite what wasn't really history?

I want to know what Robert Redford thinks of all this talk.

What a difference between Redford and Woodward.

[tx_dem41]

15. I don't know who is re-writing. The OP brought it up. I was responding..

to that. And, I respect the guy...but, I could care less what Redford has to say about this.

[peacetalksforall]

32. My first paragraph was for you.

My last two sentences were for myself.

[seabeyond]

19. bush re writes history on a regular basis

but then we know how reprehensible he is, dont we txdem41

[tx_dem41]

23. Yes....

...but what does that have to do with who Deep Throat is???? And, what does that have to do with what our side should do. I don't let the Bushies set an example for me.

[The Doctor.]

3. Honestly, Nixon wasn't a bad guy...

He was just supremely paranoid.

It's a shame really, he had good ideas and values.

Compared to this administration, Nixon was a saint.

[Dookus]

6. I have to disagree

he was a bad guy. He wasn't a raging right-winger, but to dismiss his evil actions as just "paranoid" is to diminish how truly corrupt he was.

He simply had no respect whatsoever for the rule of law.

[Carni]

38. I have to agree with the other poster

I am not a Nixon fan but he couldn't hold a candle to these assholes...

bush has had the equivalent of about 100 Watergates at this point starting with his stock dump in the late 80's and yet he marches on undaunted.

I think we were snookered in the 70's and that there never was a "liberal" media.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. To me the difference between

W and Nixon is 1) Nixon wasn't totally evil like W. 2) Nixon was majorly paranoid. 3) Nixon had a heart. I saw the Anthony Hopkins movie "Nixon" and each time I see it each time I feel for the guy. Always comparing himself to Kennedy and feeling down that people didn't like him. He tried to connect with those teens at the Lincoln and all that. I actually felt sorry for Nixon. For anyone in the Bush family I could care less about.

[Piperay]

34. I agree

and often think if he had finished out his term we wouldn't have been inflicted with Raygun and then this evil monster we now have.

[Darranar]

39. Nixon was a war criminal and a butcher. n/t

[strategery blunder]

4. Even a broken clock is right twice a day n/t

[napi21]

5. Don't worry about how you feel, be glad if it's him.

Many Pubs will turn on the Bushies completely!

There are still a lot of Pubs who are very pissed off at what happened to Nixon, and they will HATE the person who outed him.

That's a good thing. Turn them against each other!

I personally doubt we will find out who deep throat is on Monday.

I just heard an interview with Woodward & Berstein yesterday with Blitzer. They both reaffirmed that the name would NOT be divulged until the person is dead!

[Dookus]

8. yes

my one thought is that perhaps they're preparing a more in-depth obituary of Rosemary Woods, who died recently.

[pamela]

16. Woodward said it was a man.

In an interview with Blitzer a few days ago, Woodward kept using the word "he" when referring to Deep Throat. Blitzer said something like "so we can assume that Deep Throat is a man?" and Woodward said "yes, Deep Throat is a man."

[tx_dem41]

14. If you read the "evidence" that its Bush....

its incredibly, embarassingly flimsy. It also doesn't fit any of the "clues" to whom Deep Throat was.

[lala_rawraw]

22. I agree...

But that is not the evidence I would have put together... I would have focused on the Pay of Pigs fully and the Bush placing himself in the CIA years later to his actual work there. He was in charge of the Watergate damage control, but he was not acting out of ethics or out of spite for Nixon. He had a relationship with the very people named to Woody: Hunt, Colson, etc. You might also note that Woody is now one of the Prez's men, so there you have it. I would say he is my first choice, but not for the evidence presented nor for the reasons given. Also, both Woody and Bernie said that they would release the identity of Deep when "he" died. Clearly he is still alive.

The only other people I would even consider would have to be Kissinger or one of the Pay of Pigs CIA people. Deep throat is not someone who had good intentions... to help a journalist follow how a break-in was funded as opposed to the real reason for the break in is not all that honorable. I think he was saving his own ass.

[yardwork]

7. I assume it will be somebody I hate!

It's somebody who was close to Nixon. What's not to hate?

[Dookus]

10. lol

well, at first I'd hoped it was Martha Mitchell. Since then, I've hoped for Pat Buchanan. I actually like Pat, even though I disagree greatly with him on many issues - but I think he's not a corrupt man.

[yardwork]

27. Pitbull Pat may not be corrupt but he's so damn bigoted....

Anyway, I'm fascinated at the thought that this mystery may be close to being uncovered. I'd always figured it would be somebody pretty obscure. If it is Poppy Bush or Rehnquist that will be like an earthquake to the Republican Party!

oh please oh please oh please

[ComerPerro]

9. Then we pay him off, and get him to spill his neo-con guts again

before he dies. Disclose everything about this crooked administration.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. What a sweet justice that would be!

Or if he has to have a hearing for all he's done and out of revenge he spills the truth about all that the Bush family has done. Ah I'd love it. That'd be justice for 2000 and 2004!

[Cleita]

11. Newsflash! He will be someone we hate.

He was one of them. He may even be more despicable than them because he stabbed them in the back. He probably continued to be a Repub and enjoy his life as it was until now.

[Lefty48197]

13. Like Rhenquist?

.

[rodeodance]

17. ~~ monday , monday~~~~

[Sydnie]

18. I know they said it was a man, a smoker, a scotch drinker but

I think it might have been Rosemary Woods. She died recently and the promise was it wouldn't be revealed until the person was dead. Who had more access than she did? I know all accounts say she loved the Nixons, but could she have loved her country more? Even with the gap in the tape taken into consideration, if she knew he was going down and wanted to somewhat soften the history books about him, leaving the level of his involvement in doubt she might just have been walking both sides of the fence. Tell what was going on because she loved her country as well as expose Nixon for what he was doing to "save him from himself".

They could have exaggerated their description of Deep Throat to further grant her cover.

I am waiting with baited breath for the true idenity to be revealed.

As it is now, we are just playing "What's My Line" with all the usual suspects though.

When does the LA Times go to print for their Sunday edition? Didn't Olbermann say it would be Sunday?

And speaking of Olbermann, when he did his teaser about it on his Friday show, he showed Nixon getting into the helicopter. Then they had a clip of the people waving goodbye to him and who was there -- center frame? Rosemary Woods. I think that was a clue from Olbermann since he said he knew who it was.

Can't wait to read the news about this.

[lala_rawraw]

20. I have always assumed

It would be someone who deflected from the real reason for the Watergate break-in, so I always assumed it would be someone I would dislike/hate greatly. I have never found it convincing that Nixon resigned over a break-in or that such top officials would be directly involved in something as small as a wire-tap. I thought it would be the following, in order of those I feel the most probable:

1). Bush Sr.
2). Kissinger
3). CIA (Higher Up (Bay of Pigs person)
4). Bush Sr. (because it would make more sense than anything else)

[Blue-Jay]

21. I'll stop renting the movie.

Wait. Did I misread something?

[Zensea]

24. It will just prove scoundrels don't get along

the enemy of my enemy doesn't have to be my friend

[lala_rawraw]

25. Bob Wood...

Is close to this happy family while Carl B. is not... also Woody is an a Sr. Editor at the Post, which has become talking point central for this admin.

[The Backlash Cometh]

26. They said it was someone who was very ill, so that would be

Rehnquist.

[justiceischeap]

31. Gerald Ford? (eom)

[American Tragedy]

28. There are no clearly marked heroes or villains in this world, Dookus.

I have never struggled to believe that even the worst members of humanity are still capable of doing great and honorable things, or that fundamentally good people are prone to committing evil acts.

In fact, I relish that aspect of human psychology, although the former obviously pleases me far more than the latter. It makes people more exciting, more unpredictable. The characters and circumstances depicted in the Iliad are a brilliant literary example of this complexity.

[AP]

33. I've always presumed DT was farther right than Nixon.

I've always assumed that RW'ers who weren't happy with Nixon not going far enough (destroying labor and environment) undermined him so that they could get some super-corporate friendly Republicans in control of the party.

Corporattions were losing power and the middle class was getting stronger even during the Nixon administration. It wasn't until Nixon was gone that corporations really turned America into something very different from what it had been for the previous 30 years.

[Piperay]

35. That is what

I think too. I think it was a RWinger...they felt Nixon was a sell-out to them, the environment, trip to China etc.

[Piperay]

36. Repug hero...I hope...

that would be the best if one of them destroyed one of their own parties Presidents. If it was one of their heroes maybe they would get off of their illogical hate and revenge they have for the Democrats.

[Carni]

37. Speaking for myself...I will know that Nixon wasn't as bad as portrayed

And that he was probably framed by the more radical reich wing of his own party.

I will also suspect that he and Clinton had more in common than they thought they did.