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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:21 PM
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The Campaign to Make Democrats Play Bush's Game
http://www.bopnews.com/archives/002810.html#2810

Today Nicholas Kristof urges Democrats to enter the Social Security debate with alternatives of their own. Other mainstream editorial voices are urging the same thing. To do so would be a terrible mistake. It's clear the editorializing is being pushed by the White House. Here's why we should resist this demand for capitulation disguised as a call for responsibility.

1) The media will allow no room for nuance. Weighing in with alternatives will simply concede there is an emergency. In that case, I'm afraid, Bush's gutting of SS looks as responsible to the general public as any plan.

2) It's no secret that the rightists come not to praise SS, but to bury it. Why give them the opening?

3) The so-called crisis won't emerge, if it emerges, for another half century. To put that in perspective, that's about the same amount of time SS has been in existence.

4) Why don't we see the same demands for immediate action on a crisis that really is a crisis, like global warming?

I'm convinced these orchestrated calls for Democratic alternatives are just another case of the national press doing what the White House asks them to do.

The very moment Democrats step into a debate -- with rules and terms established by the White House -- we lose, Social Security loses, and the American people lose.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:27 PM
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1.  See everybody in the soup lines
I don't know how many haves there will be pretty soon,but there are going to be close to six billion have nots.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:35 PM
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2. I agree...
Entering into a debate over how to reform it gives it (illegitimate) validity.

It's stealing away the energy we need to be using to promote Heath Care for kids, getting the F*CK out of Iraq! and STAYING the F*CK out of Iran!

Jeez! they need to SERIOUSLY re-check their priorities!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:43 PM
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3. Yes, I am sending the article to Nancy Pelosi
She has to stop all her talk about being willing to discuss alternatives. No wonder we keep losing when DNC leaders keep playing the game on RNC's field.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:15 PM
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5. Media was obvious in its GOP talking points today re "alternatives"
I have given up on these whores ever giving Dems a fair chance.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:56 PM
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4. Reid said it best
by saying many SS alternatives should be studied for at least a year before anything further happens
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:24 PM
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6. I disagree. No alternatives should be studied. SS is just fine, no changes
needed.

Play out Reid's suggestion and you will have the RNC saying we are studying the SS problem with the Democrats because there is a huge problem which needs "personal accounts" very badly. Even the Democrats agree there is a huge problem and we need to study this HUGE CRISIS.

Any bipartisan study of the issue puts the RNC in the control seat.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:47 PM
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7. I saw that all over the place today
Just how totally stupid can the Beltway Democrats be? What they have to do is demand that Bush PROVE there is a problem that cannot be resolved by such simple methods as raising the cap on income subject to SocSec taxes.

If the GOPukes themselves concede that their "privatization" actually won't do anything to resolve the problems they claim exist, why bother even discussing them?

Of course, our REAL problem is that the Beltway Democrats just cannot get over the fantasy that these people can somehow be reasoned with. They simply cannot recognise the revolution that is taking place right in front of their eyes, as Kissinger wrote about the establishment during the period of Hitler's rise to power.

What we need is NEW leadership. The current models are inept and impotent.
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