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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:24 PM
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Remember when bush* got a new TX driver's license?
Does anyone have more info on that? As I recall, he had his previous records sealed and started fresh with a new license number. How'd he DO that?
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Narraback Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:27 PM
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1. I seem to remember that his lawyer also changed his license..
The gent that just withdrew his name from consideration for a Fed Judgeship. I am interested in what DU folks know.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:37 PM
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5. Was that at the same time?
Was that right before or right after he took office as TX gov?
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Narraback Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:18 PM
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11. I am not sure... I pulled my Fortunate Son and found some footnote...
I found an article from Online Journal from June 4, 1999

http://find.web.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&requestId=aae84e0559c374fb&clickedItemRank=1&userQuery=%22What+is+George++Dubya+Hiding%22&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fvictorian.fortunecity.com%2Fbrambles%2F499%2FBush%2FHiding%2Fhiding.html

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What Is George Dubya hiding?

By Linda L. Starr and Bev Conover


June 4, 1999 | There have been so many revelations regarding the past scandals of the Bush family that this almost seems irrelevant. However, since George Dubya is apparently a presidential candidate, it is almost certain we should examine every aspect of his past to see if he is morally fit to become president.

We only question this since it seems to be of such paramount importance to the GOP that we had a salacious report on the sex life of our president blasted on every medium known to man. Having said that, we must now ask some rather curious questions ourselves.

Now why would George Dubya require a Texas driver's license with an entirely new number? It was obtained on March 31, 1995, as was his wife's Laura Welch Bush's. His wife and daughters didn't need new numbers, nor did his famous parents - former president and first lady, George H. and Barbara Pierce Bush - who all would seem to be at as much risk security-wise. And by the way, doesn't Texas require renewal of a driver's license every four years on one's birthday? Did George Dubya have something in his past to hide to cause him to purge the old record and number? This seems especially confusing since his birthday is July 6, 1946, but he obtained his new number on March 31, 1995 as a renewal.


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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:25 PM
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12. Thank you! That is very helpful!
Interesting that they purged Laura's record too - I guess we all know why.

Now, can anyone in TX tell me under whose jurisdiction this would fall? Somebody had to authorize this.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:27 PM
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13. He was governor at the time, was he not?...n/t
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Narraback Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:30 PM
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15. Page 310 of the 2001 Soft Skull version of Fortunate Son contians ....
afootnote that states:

"Ironically, the Texas Department of Public Safty (which issues state driver's licenses) is headed by James Byrne Francis, Jr., one of the governor's closest friends and a fundraiser."
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:49 PM
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20. Bingo! That's it!
Thanks so much!
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:50 PM
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21. i miss the irony here . . .
wouldn't "conveniently" have been a better word to use that "ironically" ?
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:27 PM
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2. "Fortunate Son"
Edited on Tue Sep-09-03 04:29 PM by OaktownGrrl
went into that in some detail. It's been a while since I read it and my copy is loaned out now, but I know the information is there. GeeDub's DUI's were mysteriously expunged from the TX DMV records, the # changed, and all records of his community service disappeared. IIRC, this all took place before he ran for gov. in '94.

(edit for clarity)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:34 PM
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4. Yes. It Was In the Book.
I don't have it here at my office, but I'm sure I remember it in the book.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:39 PM
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6. Before he ran for gov in '94?
Does anyone know who would be responsible for this? How does one pull this off? Who would authorize it?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:28 PM
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3. Powerful people seem to be able to seal
most of their records, unfortunately. I hope his real record comes out in its entirety in 2004.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:39 PM
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7. not as long as "we're at war"
he can hang up release of his records for years with this lame ass excuse
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:43 PM
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8. When your Daddy is a former president, strings get cut
Edited on Tue Sep-09-03 04:43 PM by SoCalDem
:(

I had heard that when he was called for jury duty (I think it was a DUI case), and he would have been questioned about HIS OWN background, he had it changed then, and actually left blank spaces in the questionnaire..
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:54 PM
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9. Right. Anyone have a source for this?
Looking for names. Who arranged this?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:11 PM
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10. They cover their tracks well
I doubt if we will ever know.:(

Amazing how so much of the Bush "history" is gone and forgotten..

Poppy.."can't remember where he was when JFK was shot".. He was in Dallas

GWB.. his military records are spooty at best and lots are missing or altered..(people don't remember him being there, but most are unwilling to go "on the record")
......his arrest record seems to be missing
......his DL change (another mystery)
......Raygun & Poppy's papers securley locked away in an institution tha GWB installed a friend/supporter as cuartor

so many mysteries... so little time :eyes:
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:28 PM
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14. here's bushwatch news on W's drivers' license....
Edited on Tue Sep-09-03 05:29 PM by protect freedom impe
http://www.bushwatch.com/mojobush8.htm

"WHY DID BUSH CHANGE HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE?" 8/31/99
Yesterday, MSNBC's Jeanette Walls followed up on an ONLINE JOURNAL story and was told by the Texas DMV that such a change was "highly unusual," but that it was done for unspecified "security reasons."

The ONLINE JOURNAL's Linda Starr and Bev Conover previously reported that getting a new, low-numbered license, #000000005 and issued on 3/31/95 in Bush's case, did not appear to be a "common practice" of past Texas Governors, since none of the holders of lower numbers were in that category.

Writing in the LOS ANGELES TIMES last week, USC Journalism Lecturer Norman Miller commented on such concerns by asking, "If the cocaine-rumor story is valid, where does it end? Bush has admitted he was a heavy drinker until he swore off when he turned 40. Did he drive under the influence, an action probably more endangering to others than using cocaine? God save us from some scandal-hungry reporter asking that question, even though its hypothetical foundation surpasses the cocaine question."



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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:47 PM
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18. Thanks!
That's a good lead.
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:32 PM
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16. see Bush's new license - photo
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:36 PM
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17. this is what you're looking for - from OnlineJournal
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/Redux/redux.html

"What is George W. hiding?" redux
The corporate media may be giving Bush a pass, but we won't


Editor's note, July 8, 2000: The word coming through the media grapevine is that no matter what George W. Bush did in the past or does between now and November 7, he is to be given a pass by the corporate media.

Corporate America and the right wing have decreed that the Texas governor will be the next president of the United States, and that is that.
Given the larger issues of whether he's stupid or mentally impaired, since he has no grasp of the language and is pained to utter a sentence that make sense; his false claims of how well Texas has fared during his tenure as governor; how many wrongfully convicted people are in his state's prisons or how many innocent people have been executed under his watch; how he has helped his friends at Texas taxpayers' expense; and his and his family's oil connections, questions about possible drug use and whether he was absent without leave during the time he was supposed to be serving in the National Air Guard pale in comparison. Moreover, the public is being denied knowledge about George W.'s connection with the Hoover Institution, a right wing think tank that receives large grants from Richard Mellon Scaife's foundations and has become a repository for many of former President Bush's advisers and cabinet members – people who have been recycled into the junior Bush's election campaign.
George W., his advisers and his family also have been masterful in erecting a nearly impenetrable wall to keep pesky reporters (yes, there are still many good reporters out there) from finding out the truth – good or bad – about this Bush son. So more than a year after we broke the story about Gov. Bush's new driver's license, we still have no answers as to the why or the how, and we have run into a stonewall in our quest to get those answers. An MSNBC reporter who picked up on our story also ran into the same stonewall.
Though the story is still accessible through our Politics page, we are running it here again for those of you who are not familiar with it.
While we obtained our information from the official Texas Driver License Detail records, a spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety subsequently said the records contained an error; that Texas drivers' licenses have eight numbers, not nine. We made a note of that in a follow-up article, although it leads to more questions when it comes to the DL numbers of other Bush family members. Which number gets dropped since the records showed all had nine, not eight?
We recently heard from two Texas readers, one a Bush supporter and the other a Democrat, who contend that no Texas DL begins with 00, since there is no region in Texas with those digits. Again, we obtained George W.'s DL number – which is preceded by seven or eight zeroes (depending on the validity of what the Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman told us) and ends with a 5 – and the numbers of the holders of DL numbers 00000001 (or 000000001), issued to a person born in 1918, through 00000012 (or 00000012), all from the official records.
If we are to get to the truth, dear readers, it is up to you to raise a noise so loud that the corporate media can't ignore it. Our fellow Americans are not getting the information they need to make an informed decision about who will best serve them as president, thanks to the corporate media and those they serve


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What Is George Dubya hiding?
By Linda L. Starr and Bev Conover


June 4, 1999 | There have been so many revelations regarding the past scandals of the Bush family that this almost seems irrelevant. However, since George Dubya is apparently a presidential candidate, it is almost certain we should examine every aspect of his past to see if he is morally fit to become president.

We only question this since it seems to be of such paramount importance to the GOP that we had a salacious report on the sex life of our president blasted on every medium known to man. Having said that, we must now ask some rather curious questions ourselves.

Now why would George Dubya require a Texas driver's license with an entirely new number? It was obtained on March 31, 1995, as was his wife's Laura Welch Bush's. His wife and daughters didn't need new numbers, nor did his famous parents -- former president and first lady, George H. and Barbara Pierce Bush -- who all would seem to be at as much risk security-wise. And by the way, doesn't Texas require renewal of a driver's license every four years on one's birthday? Did George Dubya have something in his past to hide to cause him to purge the old record and number? This seems especially confusing since his birthday is July 6, 1946, but he obtained his new number on March 31, 1995 as a renewal.

Due to this little anomaly, we thought perhaps we should check to see if this was a common practice for former governors of Texas, but no, they were not listed among the first four numbers previous to Dubya's. Now, in all fairness to Dubya we must ask why he would get a new number and not just assume it was to hide something in his past life. And why would he be given the nine-digit DL number 000000005? His wife's DL number is 005295107.


more......lots more.........
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 05:48 PM
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19. Thanks, that's great!
Now I want to figure out who would be running the Driver's License bureau at that time.
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