SUPPORT HR 181. Let me try this again.

[texastoast]

And I will try to get it right this time.

HR 181, “The Parental Consent Act of 2005,” OPPOSES mandatory psychological testing of school-age children recommended by shrub's "New Freedom Commission on Mental Health."

I don't know whether this applies to private schools. There is more reading to do.

The text of the Commission's report to the "President" (paid for by our tax dollars) can be found at this link:

http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/reports/reports.htm

Ron Paul, noted for his Libertarianistic bent and who is a repug, is right about this one (and absolutely wrong about many other issues). The page on his website about HR 181 can be found at:

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst013105.htm

Now, if you want to delete this, it's your site. However, word about this needs to get out and the funding needs to be stopped. Too bad the Dems didn't lead the way.

[Melodybe]

1. I'm starting a petition on that, it will hopefully

garner support for Ron Paul's legislation.

If their any larger groups involved doing their own petitions could you hook me up I would like to be able to add the names I collect to a larger group.

I am also doing petitions on paper trails, students against the draft, and media regulation.

All are broad enough to appeal to both repugs and democrats.

[spunky]

2. I checked out those links

the first time you posted this thread, if yo ugo to this link: http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/reports/FinalReport/FullReport-05.htm under goal four and scroll down to 4.2, Improve and expand school mental health programs, you'll find no mention of mandatory screening or of screening without parental consent. The model program (model 4.2) clearly states that parental consent is required.

Maybe what he's talking about is in there somewhere, but all I see is a program aimed at getting people better mental health care (children and adults). I'd be opposed if it was forced without parental consent, but as I read it, (and as much as I hate to say it) it looks like a semi-decent program.

[Melodybe]

6. bull I know for a fact that parental consent is not required

because Paul's legislation that added parental consent to the bill was voted down.

Thanks to a lot of democrats BTW.

There is hardly any info on the program, the mainstream media won't touch it and although it may sound good at first they do not specify what is considered a mental illness, who will be doing the testing, and who will be paying for it. All that is know is that the New Freedom Commission is Bush's mental health program, that screening public school children will be mandatory and that parental consent was voted out of the bill.

It is some scary stuff, and it is very real.

This is a very good issue for democrats because the republicans that know about it are superpissed. We have a whole bunch of links to freerepublic.com where the freepers were calling Bush a Nazi, citing 1984, and A Brave New World.

I am quite serious about the petitions and if there are not any yet, I would like to start one myself.

They did this in the Soviet Union, we can not let them do this here.

[texastoast]

9. Found this petition

http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/pcapetition.htm

Please post more if you find them!

[texastoast]

7. There is a LOT more reading to do

I'm the first to admit. However, I was apprised of the bill by someone who has little use for Ron Paul on most issues. That caught my attention, and I have little doubt that Paul would allege that "This commission issued a report last year calling for the mandatory mental health screening of American schoolchildren, meaning millions of kids will be forced to undergo psychiatric screening whether their parents consent or not" without there being some substance to this allegation. Further, Paul states, "It is important to understand that powerful interests, namely federal bureaucrats and pharmaceutical lobbies, are behind the push for mental health screening in schools. There is no end to the bureaucratic appetite to run our lives, and the pharmaceutical industry is eager to sell psychotropic drugs to millions of new customers in American schools. Only tremendous public opposition will suffice to overcome the lobbying and bureaucratic power behind the president’s New Freedom Commission." Sounds a little familiar, but not from that side.

I'll do my best to read the Commission's reports and see for myself. I'll keep you "posted."

[Carni]

3. OK so in my case I support this bill

Got it--thanks!

[ultraist]

4. It's part of Bush's "Ownership Society"

I agree with his remarks below, snipped from article linked in OP:

"Forced mental health screening simply has no place in a free or decent society. The government does not own you or your kids, and it has no legitimate authority to interfere in your family’s intimate health matters. Psychiatric diagnoses are inherently subjective, and the drugs regularly prescribed produce serious side effects, especially in children’s developing brains. The bottom line is that mental health issues are a matter for parents, children, and their doctors, not government."

"It is important to understand that powerful interests, namely federal bureaucrats and pharmaceutical lobbies, are behind the push for mental health screening in schools. There is no end to the bureaucratic appetite to run our lives, and the pharmaceutical industry is eager to sell psychotropic drugs to millions of new customers in American schools. Only tremendous public opposition will suffice to overcome the lobbying and bureaucratic power behind the president’s New Freedom Commission."

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This will not affect those who can afford PRIVATE psychologists. Only the poor who are forced to used state pyschologists will be subjected to "certain" biased results/diagnoses.

This type of thing is already occuring to a lesser degree. Schools pressure parents to have their kids tested by the State paid testers so they can get a diagnosis and put the kid on meds.

One of my employees, who is black was told by the school that he MUST put his child on meds. I told him they were lying but he decided to fill the bottle with aspirin and send it to school rather than fight for his rights because they have already harrassed him so much.

Poor, especially poor black kids, already are being over diagnosed and over medicated. This just makes it easier for them to force it on parents.

ANYTHING to inflate the bottom line of big corps and keep the poor down, zombified on meds seems to work well for them.

[texastoast]

8. Put aspirin in the bottle

That rocks!

Fort Bend County near Houston had a 34 PERCENT Ritalin rate a few years ago. You can't tell me one out of three kids is ADD or ADHD.

[ultraist]

10. LOL!

He's 55, a Vietnam Vet and very intelligent. He has his own way of dealing with or getting around the system. Many old school blacks in the South are very street wise.

He's very cool.

[s-cubed]

5. kick

[texastoast]

11. Thanks!

This needs to get out so everyone knows. Please feel free to post widely.

[ultraist]

12. kick

:kick: