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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:29 PM
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The latest freeper email in my inbox...
get a load of this...

<start swill - ready air sickness bags>

Remember  the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to  light it?  

Did you know his  trial is over?  
Did you know he was sentenced?
Did you see or hear any of the  judge's comments on TV or Radio?
I Didn't think so.
Everyone  should hear what the judge had to say.

Ruling by Judge William Young US  District Court.

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant  if he had anything to say.

His response: After admitting his guilt  to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin  Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I  ought not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at war with  your country."

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted  below, a stinging condemnation of Reid in particular and terrorists in  general:

January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young: Mr.  Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you. On  counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody  of the United  States  Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20  years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive  with the other.

That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you  to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The  Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the  aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's  recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the  amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The  Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.

The Court  imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law  requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no  further.  This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It  is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this  to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist coconspirators,  Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is  all too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost  respect. Here in this court, where we deal with individuals as individuals  and care for individuals as individuals.  As human beings, we reach out  for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist.  You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that  reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it  is the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or  that happens to be your view, you are a terrorist...And we do not negotiate  with terrorists. We do not treat with terrorists. We do not sign documents  with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.  

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow.  But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You are a  terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a  very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were  taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and  where the TV crews were and he said you're no big deal.

You're no  big deal.

What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the  equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as  honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so  horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I  have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search  your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do  what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I have an answer  for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it  comes as close to understanding as I know.

It  seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You hate our  freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we  choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we  individually choose.  Here, in this society, the very winds carry  freedom. They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we  prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful  courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered  fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your  lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals,  will go on in their representation of you before other judges.

We  are about it. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is  the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true  that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look  around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember  what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this,  however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across  America,  the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice,  justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very  President of the United  States  through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence  on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather  to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine  our sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of  the United  States of America.  That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands  for freedom. You know it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him  down.

So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV  sets? We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass  this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to  say. Powerful words that strike home.

God bless America  
Pass  it on...............................everyone should read this.....and  remember...this is what we, as Americans, are all  about!!!

<end swill>

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:33 PM
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1. It Reads Like Propaganda - Most Judges Would Read More Measured
Remarks.

I find it hard to believe.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:35 PM
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2. It didn't come with a URL...
which leads me to believe that it's a bunch of hooey.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:37 PM
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4. Trust Your Instincts - I Think You Are Right
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:40 PM
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5. Unfortunately, it's true.
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 10:42 PM by theorist
Snopes link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/reid.asp

But isn't this judge associated with the torture memos in some way? (Might be a different federal judge.)
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mairceridwen Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:42 PM
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8. snopes.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:35 PM
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3. May I suggest:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:40 PM
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6. My friend sends these...
I don't think she's a freeper, her husband gets them then she runs them by me, hoping I refute them.

That's when I call 'Democratic Underground'!
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:41 PM
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7. Self Delete
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 10:43 PM by two gun sid
Snopes says it's true.
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