Bush and Dr. Phil....world's best family values...unbelievable.

[madfloridian]

I saw this in the paper today, and I am having a lot of trouble recovering. At first I thought it was satire. Sadly, I don't think so.

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050208/NEWS/502080314/1037/EDIT

SNIP.."First, I would like to commend The Ledger for your edition of Jan. 20 covering the presidential inauguration of our 43rd president.

Second, I want to say that I believe the two most influential people in the United States -- and perhaps the entire world, because both men are known worldwide -- are President George W. Bush and Dr. Phil McGraw. These two men have done more to make people more aware of moral and family values than anyone else. Both men are real Christians and have unashamedly told of their experience with Jesus Christ.

During halftime of the recent Orange Bowl, I turned to PBS to view a program titled "Frontline -- The Jesus Factor." I was thrilled to see that a life story of our president, George W. Bush, was being shown. What a story! This is worth having a movie made, which I hope will happen in the future. This episode showed the good and the bad. After all, no one is perfect and no one other than Jesus Christ himself was perfect and, yet, he was criticized and ultimately crucified on a cross. All of the criticism surrounding President Bush and Dr. Phil is nothing new, and this will continue....."

I did not see the Frontline piece on this, so hard to comment. I was simply stunned when I read this.

:think:

[Liberal Veteran]

1. So basically two rich arrogant pricks are the epitome of xstianity?

:wtf:

Editted because I can't spell to, two, or too.

[atreides1]

8. Get it Right

They are the epitome of the Falwell/Robertson/Graham form of xstianity, not the epitome of Christianity as taught by Jesus Christ.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. You're right atreides1

Falwell/Robertson/Graham and even Dobson aren't teaching the true message of Christ when they're being holier then thou bigots. Christ also said to be humble, but they don't with their whole holier then thou attitudes and spreading bigotry. :grr:

[FreedomAngel82]

10. I know what you mean

I was like :wtf: :argh: I guess lying about going to war, killing innocent people, torturing people, taking money away from the poor, cutting veteran benefits, making disabeled vets pay for their own meals are good moral values?! :grr:

[HamiltonHabs32]

26. Dr. Phil video

You know you hate him...

the daily show has an excellent clip bashing Dr. Phil

in fact its been voted one of the greatest Daily show clips of all time :D

[Hobarticus]

2. If you repeat something long enough, it becomes reality....

Lie, murder, pray...rinse and repeat.

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Sounds like it was written by a very well-behaved Moonie.

[Stop_the_War]

4. WTF?

[seabeyond]

5. what do you and your father talk about when not talking

politics

pussy

1988 bush said to a reporter at the republican convention. he had two young daughters and a wife.

[blueknight]

7. from what i understand,

he is called "dr.phil" but he is not really a doctor, he dont have a PHD:shrug:

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Speaking of Dr Phil

One time my brother was down here and my Mom was watching a few min's of the show and there was this girl woman on there talking about her problem and at the end she made a statement and Dr. Phil asked her about if she ever felt guilty about taking time for herself and that's what she just said. :eyes:

[jackster]

6. well it IS

Lakeland FLORIDA

my home state, Dem when I left 25 years ago next month

conversation with my registered Dem sister who rarely votes Dem

she only watches Fox news but doesn't believe they are fair and balanced

Voted for Bush because she didn't trust Kerry

Believes that Carter was the best president

Thinks its okay for Bill O'Reilly to lie "just like Theresa Heinz Kerry"

Thinks Jeb Bush ruined Florida

Might vote for Wesley Clark in '08


GO FIGURE???????!!!!!!!

[blueknight]

9. her reasoning has no logic

:wtf: i dont understans people like that:shrug:

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Your sister

made my head spin. :crazy:

[karynnj]

19. Know how you feel

I have a sister who didn't vote in 1972, because the two candidates were "not too different". She was a college student at the time - thus saw rallies with great frequency in the previous year.

In your post, why would she think Teresa lies - poor Teresa was accused of a lot of things -dishonesty was definitely not one of them.

[jackster]

21. hey, I love my sister

and she is VERY non-conventional, BUT when I tried to engage her about Heinz Kerry, she just rattled on and on about the incident with the Scaife reporter. That's all she knew about her.

Most of the Bush voters I've spoken to have the same mindset. One Bush supporter told me that if Hillary runs in '08 she'd vote for her!

These people don't have a friggin clue about a damn thing!

[SmokingJacket]

30. Wow!

I think some people don't feel the need to have any logical back-up to their opinions. "It's just my opinion! Why does it have to make sense??"

Argh!

[Democrats_win]

11. Fallacies! Janet Jackson did more for moral values awareness.

(and the value of Tivo.)

[karynnj]

12. This is scary

GWB's life story is not perfect like Jesus? What a shock! If I were a Christian, I would be offended to have Jesus compared to someone whose life before age 40 is a period not to be questioned because he was young and irresponsible. I bet if we had a metric that could calculate how Christ-like a life was, Bush might score far futher away than most people and even most politians. (I'ld bet on Kerry, Dean, Carter ...many others as being closer)

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Most definietly

Especially Carter. I don't know too much about Dean's past and Kerry did a lot of good with Vietnam, anti-war protesting and especially BCCI.
LOL I was watching "King of the Hill" one time and it was Christmas and Hank's boss got a DUI and had to do community service and had to do home's for humanity and he asked Hank to help and Hank asked his family and friends to help too. He and his dad got into a fight and got pissed off at everything and the son ran into a man who was helping with that and asked the man to help. The man ended up helping them make up and the son (Bobby) thought the man was Jesus because he was a carpenter and his intials were J.C. but it was Jimmy Carter. :D It wasn't Carter talking though which would've been cool.

[AlCzervik]

13. I can't wait for some scandle to break on Dr. Phil

petty....yes but you know there is one waiting in the wings it just needs the right time to come out.

[anarchy1999]

25. Oh I'm sure you are right. It's there.

Does anyone here know how he got his start or how he ever met up with the big "O" and/or when they became such good friends?

Go back to the trial in Amarillo with the cattle folk.

[Dr.Phool]

15. I think the best example for christianity

Would be Archbishop Desmond Tutu. And I'm an atheist.

I saw him giving an interview on Democracy Now and he said " God was probably looking down at George Bush, and Osama Bin Laden, and Sadaam Hussein, and thinking 'Just what in the hell did I do wrong'".

He's a kind, gentle, articulate man who cares for the poor, and unrepresented.

[UdoKier]

20. I didn't know Dr. Phil was a Xian.

I've only seen him on TV once or twice, and only for a few minutes. He didn't interest me at all. Hard to understand what the hubbub about this guy is.

If he's a Bushite and a bible-thumper, I'm even less interested in him.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

22. I have watched Dr. Phil for some time

and have read a couple of his books. He has never come across to me as being part of the evangelical right and generally sidesteps the issue of religion altogether, except to occasionally address it in a general way.

I would be interested in seeing hard copy of something Dr. Phil wrote or said that would confirm him as a holy roller.

[Bridget Burke]

23. There's no evidence that Dr Phil is part of the religous right.

(He's got a Ph.D. in Psychology, by the way.) He's not my cup of tea, but he's hardly done as much damage as Bush....

[anarchy1999]

24. Welcome to DU, but I think you might need some help.

I live in "Dr. Phil's" town. He caters to the right wing, rich, Republican evangelicals, but you are right, he does keep it low-key, "general".

Stay away from the "Kool-Aid", it bites back.

[The Backlash Cometh]

27. Kind of projects a bleak outlook for human survival into the 22nd Century

Don't it?

"I want to say that I believe the two most influential people in the United States -- and perhaps the entire world, because both men are known worldwide -- are President George W. Bush and Dr. Phil McGraw"

[madfloridian]

28. Yes, it does.

Does not leave one much hope, I fear.

[Disturbed]

29. GW B The Silverspoon Sociopath...

is the moral equivalent of a scorpion.

Dr. Phil-Yawn

[Cell Whitman]

31. The Jesus Factor is in FRONTLINE's archive

Notice how I put "FRONTLINE" in capitals? I tried like hell to get them to add the show they did on Moon from 1992 to their archive.
The transcript and short video excerpt of that can be found here:
http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/moontranscript.shtml

anywho, when I received my "sure buddy" replies they always wrote it like that. FRONTLINE. haha

You can find The Jesus Factor here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/

[Arkana]

32. I dunno...I think in order to get away with what he does

that Dr. Phil has to sidestep the religion issue, and I'm sure he's realized that it doesn't apply to everyone's lives.