Fox Debate: Please Keep Us Updated at the DU.

[David Zephyr]

It appears that Fox will not show the debate on their internet site. I am stuck at the office so I am hoping that you who watch will keep us informed here as to the Q & A and audience response.

Thanks.

[Bossy Monkey]

1. I think that'll be in LBN (n/t)

[FubarFly]

Blech, I just turned on Fox for the first time in a year.

They're announcing the candidates now. Using flashy graphics, and flashing bios like they are trading cards.

[David Zephyr]

2. Thanks.

n/t

[FubarFly]

11. Oh god, they are not showing the right camera angle...

This is going to be bullshit.

[Renew Deal]

3. OK Let's get this going.

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[UTUSN]

15. Reporting for Duty - Sort of Equal Applause

Moseley-Braun & SHARPTON biggest - KERRY bigger than EDWARDS, DEAN surprisingly strong, LIEBERMAN less, KUCINICH strong, GRAHAM polite.

Oh my ZEUS!!!!- Juan WILLIAMS is one of the 3 questioners.

[blm]

4. I wonder if FOX stacked the audience with operatives against

who the GOP doesn't want to face, and FOR whoever they do want.

[frank frankly]

8. is this anywhere online???

for the late shift folks

[Woodstock]

43. Check your public radio station

Here's one that has it:

http://www.wamu.org/

[Terwilliger]

5. they're using football style graphics

and sound effects

[wyldwolf]

6. Polite applause for Lieberman...

LOL!

[Hoppin_Mad]

7. First time I've turned on FAUX in months

and I get a commercial . . .

"FAUX news - where America turns to for truth - Period "

Or some BS like it.

Makes my stomach turn

Does Shepard Smith wear eyeliner ? It sure looks like he does.

[_NorCal_D_]

108. What!?

That's a commercial slogan!? That makes me sick. No way am I turning on FOX!

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Sean Reynolds]

9. Dean gets LOTS of cheers.

Even more than Sharpton.

[Renew Deal]

13. So did everyone but Lieberman,

[Sean Reynolds]

21. True.....

Poor Joe.

[Atlant]

10. Juan Fucking Williams -- Yuck!

Juan is one of the three questioners.

[GBD4]

12. Sharpton

"bin Laden has out more videos than a rock star and yet Dubya cannot find him"

[hobbes159]

14. go Al go!

I love listening to Al Sharpton -- he's cutting up bush on the first question! Talking about how we havent caught bin laden yet and accusing * of breaking promises....

[dean4america]

16. Dean's patch/sticker/button????

Can anyone tell me what it is/says? Was too small to see in the introductory, Fox NFL Sunday-type intro boxes. Maybe something about DC voting rights?

[Vadem]

17. Al Sharpton: Where is Bin Laden

Bush has broken a promise: He promised to find Bin Laden--where is Bin Laden!

[nostamj]

18. detect any SPIN!!!!! in the first questions ???

sheesh. unfairly unbalanced.

[quinnox]

19. J. Williams is asking right wing leading questions

What a shill.

[dean4america]

24. agreed

his questions are bogusly spun.

can CMB use another word for "frittered?"

[oasis]

20. enthusiastic applause for Dean, Mosley Braun and Sharpton, DK.

Guess who got scant applause? Hint: First name rhymes with 'ho.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

22. Mosely-Braun

"Congress gave president the right to go on a free-for-all"

[GBD4]

23. Moseley Braun

"this President was not elected by the American people"

[UTUSN]

27. LIEB: (Shrub) "gave a price tag, not a PLAN"

[Atlant]

54. "not elected" -- Wasn't that a *GREAT* line? :-) (NT)

[David Zephyr]

25. Is Fox American Flag on Screen or Was It Removed for Democrats

This is a question that's been haunting me all day.

Will Fox have their American Flag waving on screen or in a not-so-subtle message, will they remove it?

Please let me know.

[FubarFly]

28. Flag is in upper left part of screen with the word 'live' flashing in it.

[David Zephyr]

37. Thanks.

:hi:

[TSIAS]

29. The flag is still there

I'm surprised.

[David Zephyr]

35. Thanks.

:hi:

[blm]

30. LOL...they'll put up a commie flag.

.

[Vadem]

32. No Flag! Waving Fox, Live in upper left corner and Fox News

in lower left corner; "You Decide 2004" across the screen, occasionally.

[GBD4]

26. Lieberman

Bush gave us a price tag, not a plan, on Sunday nite

[dean4america]

31. he's still an asshole.

sorry, but it's true.

[UTUSN]

51. DEAN: "We Can't Get Out". KERRY

KERRY - "Don't know if (Shrub) misled us intentionally. ...Clearly didn't plan for the peace. He began this war on HIS SCHEDULE, no excuse for (plan)... No, do not need or want more Am troops.


Whoaaa - KUCINICH just attacked KERRY - "He just said it well about what direction we should be going, I wish he had done it (when the vote was taken)."

[nostamj]

33. Lieberman: Iraq is WAR ON TERRA

fuck 'em. just fuck 'em.

GOD I hope he doesn't get the nom

[wndycty]

34. Lieberman is the first candidate not to get applause. . .

. . .after answering a question. Dean follows and he gets applause!

[hobbes159]

38. quite a few cheers for dean too....

n/t

[SweetZombieJesus]

40. And he refutes Lieberman's bullshit backing of the "war on terror" angle

Eat shit, Joe, you fuckin kiss ass.

[dean4america]

seconded

well said.

nice of DK to rib-kick Kerry after praising him. DK is SO MUCH MORE appealing when he isn't screaming. mentioned Halliburton, too.

[Bill McBlueState]

36. creepy

All I can say is it's creepy watching the Dems debate on Faux. That bell they keep ringing! What is this, a spelling bee?

[Woodstock]

39. David, the local public radio stations are broadcasting it

WAMU has it on. I heard someone say the New York City public radio has it on, too.

[David Zephyr]

67. THANK YOU!!!!!

:hi:

[David Zephyr]

41. Someone Please Provide the Questions, If Possible.

Help.

[Woodstock]

58. http://www.wamu.org/

live feed online

[Emboldened Chimp]

73. Where's the live feed? Can't find it on page!

[Woodstock]

http://www.wamu.org/ram/live-toad.ram

put this in your Real media player Location box

[dean4america]

42. this whole debate is a F'ing set up

look at the way they are setting up the questions... Lieberman moves into Dean, who then is set up for Kerry. I don't like how this is unfolding at all.

[SweetZombieJesus]

46. WTF is TheBeeHive.org?

Yes Dennis! Stick it to Kerry for voting for the war!

Dennis sounds great tonight.

[Atlant]

71. The BeeHive is - - slow to load, at least right now! (NT)

On their "about us" page...

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We created the Beehive to be the place to go for information and resources around the things that matter in our lives: money, health, jobs, school and family. And, we'd like you to have a little fun while you're here so, we're throwing in some games and quizzes to keep it interesting.



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[GBD4]

44. Kerry

The President began this war on HIS schedule
...
we need to de-Americanize this war

[Renew Deal]

45. Kerry: Exit strategy is victory.

That's not a strategy. I don't like it when he says that.

[poskonig]

47. Kucinich just attacked Kerry on the war.

For not working with him in Congress to vote no.

[blm]

125. DK didn't attack Kerry.

He said Kerry's direction on Iraq now was the right one and that he wished Kerry had joined him in convincing Congress not to go to war. DK was polite about it. He didn't shout or mock.

[frank frankly]

48. is the audio online, anywhere?

this is too grotesque to imagine
Faux News moderating this!
has Hume's face fallen off?

[Jackhammer Jesus]

49. Kucinich

"Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 nor al-Qaeda nor the anthrax attack"

"Get the UN in and the US out"

"Repeal Patriot Act." HUGE applause.

[SweetZombieJesus]

60. That's why Dennis is my #2 guy

There sure are a lot of black people on this panel, maybe Fox is trying to throw us a bone now that the tide is turning against their jug eared idiot king.

Oh shut the fuck up, Gep, stop pretending you didn't bend over for Georgie Boy.

[sham]

50. anyone catch what Dean's button said?

"I support...." (couldn't make out the rest)

[dean4america]

59. voting rights for D.C.?

I think that what it might say, esp. after the big endorsement today.

[jburton]

69. Dean's sticker

a pro-union sticker

I couldn't get the exact words.

[Woodstock]

91. I think i can help here - I saw him stick it on yesterday

I was right next to Dean - if it's the same sticker. The College Park MD workers are trying to unionize and the union rep gave him a sticker at the rally yesterday.

[Cha]

134. You Lucky Dawg!

[Woodstock]

165. He seemed so nice!

I'll PM you later!!!

[GBD4]

52. Graham

I will not support a dime to be used to protect the profits of Halliburton in Iraq

we cannot trust this President with a blank check

[frank frankly]

55. great for bob!

halliburton mentioned by name

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

53. why did our guys agree to this?

i didn't see the gop candidates going on amy goodman or bill moyers to debate in 2000

they shouldn't add legitimacy to fox's coverage. how can a person claim it's horribly slanted while at the same time appearing on it?

[Cha]

72. I know! Ri freakin' diculous!

I hope it's the Last time!

[Orangepeel]

75. I'm sure they agreed because it's a CBC debate

No candidate is going to turn down the invitation to the CBC debate, and the Congressional Black Caucus probably made the deal with Fox. Why *they* did it, I don't know.

[UTUSN]

77. GEP: "He never had the plan - an abomination"

[RevolutionStartsNow]

56. graham

Slamming votes on iwr. Oooh.

[poskonig]

57. Graham attacked the prowar candidates too.

"We can not trust this president with a blank check."

[Kahuna]

Amen, Bob Graham!

Woo hoo! :bounce: Busted, Kerry, Lieb and Gep by reding the Iraq Res, giving awol a blank check.

[sham]

61. Gephardt

"miserable failure" again.

[GBD4]

62. Gephardt

this President's foreign policy is a miserable failure

[Woodstock]

63. Gephardt - MISERABLE FAILURE again!!!

:)

[Jackhammer Jesus]

64. G-Money

HE SAID MISERABLE FAILURE AGAIN, GO GEPPY! :crazy:

[poskonig]

65. Gephardt is on message

The "Miserable Failure" theme is back.

[nostamj]

66. G: "MISERABLE FAILURE"

* IS a MF

[Vadem]

68. That damn bell is getting on my nerves! Everyone seems so

rushed in their answers!

[cthrumatrix]

81. Gep...can't tell if he is acting or really pissed....?

He sure is vocal.

[Atlant]

89. Well, we are watching this on "Soundbytes R Us". :-) (NT)

[dean4america]

70. Gephardt - flat

that was not very rousing statement - i wonder if anyone will say "you looked pretty good in the Rose Garden with Bush a while back?"

[SweetZombieJesus]

76. I would have said it if I was there

Gephardt's full of shit.

Dick, the bell rang. Ease up Dick. There's such a thing as being TOO strident.

[dean4america]

83. agreed

he's overplaying being angry and passionate - is looks phony.

DK brings up the Rose Garden comment - THANK YOU DENNIS!

[SweetZombieJesus]

88. GET HIM DENNIS!

Watch the war supporting Dems twist in the wind, baby. It's beautiful.

[FubarFly]

82. Finished strong-

It is an abomination that we still don't have support. We've spent 70 years building these alliances.

[alcuno]

74. Good grief! This is on FAUX?

And Brit can't really say anything. Too funny.

[FubarFly]

94. Kucinich just NAILED Gephardt

Wish you would have been this vocal when you were standing in the Rose Garden with b*sh.

Ouch.

[tjdee]

78. IT's an ABOMINATION!

What happens to Gephardt when he's in Washington?

Does he shrink away to nothing?

[poskonig]

79. Gephardt looks *very* good today.

Called Bush not getting international help, exhausting options with UN, an "abomination"

[UTUSN]

Now KUCINICH Attacking GEP

"When you were standing next to (Shrub) in the Rose Garden, I wish you had told him no."

[Renew Deal]

80. Gephardt is charged up again.

He reminds me of Tony Blair at Parliment.

[sfecap]

84. Gep explaining himself...miserably.

Nice tap dance, though.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

85. DK Rules!

Said it again, "Iraq not related to 9-11" Yay!

Also challenged Gep about standing in the Rose Garden with * -- LOL!
Go DK!

[tjdee]

86. DK: When you were standing in the rose garden with thepRes, Dick,

I wish you should have told him no, as the Democratic LEADER....

OUCH, Dennis!

[newsguyatl]

111. oh my!!!!!!

did dennis really say that?!?!?!




go DK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[sham]

87. Q: Should congress have not wrapped itself in the flag

and not voted for the war?

Gep: I told the pres we had to trust one another... You've got to get help from UN... Claiming Bush* betrayed his trust by not getting help from the UN.

Puh-leeze!

DK on Gep's ass now for voting for the war! DK is on the warpath (so to speak) tonight.

[GBD4]

90. Graham

THIS PRESIDENT INTENTIONALLY MISLED US

...

Osama bin Forgotten

[UTUSN]

107. Heckler Yelling - Prolongedly - GRAHAM Stops

[jburton]

DK calling on the Iraq yes vote

Gep not pleased.

[TheDonkey]

92. Why so much Kucinich & Graham air-time? (nt)

Loved Graham's response to "has Bush intentionally misled us?"
Graham: "Yes."

[tjdee]

115. I know, is Edwards even there?

Seems to me that FAUX is focusing on DK and Graham.

Whether that means anything nefarious, I don't know, but I've been watching now for a long time, haven't seen Edwards once.

Seriously, is he even there?

[tjdee]

122. Moseley-Braun: They're spending like drunken sailors.

Awesomeeeeeeeeee....

[Atlant]

93. "Did the President intentionally mislead?" Graham: "Yes." !!!!

[Atlant]

102. Anbody have any idea what the shouter is shouting about? (NT)

[Atlant]

113. Graham: "Osama bin Forgotten" (NT)

[Jackhammer Jesus]

95. WTF?

Someone just started shouting over Graham, anybody understand what he said...?

[SweetZombieJesus]

110. Yeah, what the fuck?

Freepers? What the shit?

I love that Osama Bin Forgotten line. Graham is fuckin great.

[Emboldened Chimp]

96. WTF??? What that guy say?

[arcane1]

109. I heard "dick cheney" and maybe Larouche too

:shrug:


Al told 'em off though :-)

[dean4america]

97. Bob Graham - NICE response

Did the President intentionally mislead the American people -

graham said, emphatically - YES


Sharpton on the heckler is funny,.

[jburton]

98. DISRUPTOR!!!

Some guy in the audience...

[tkmorris]

99. What was that? <nt>?

[sfecap]

100. A heckler?

On Faux?

Who would have thought?

[Kahuna]

101. No, he didn't just ask Graham if bush lied about Iraq...

Oh course, Graham came right out and proudly answered, Yes!

[Vadem]

103. DISRUPTOR!

anybody hear what he said? Al said something funny that I didn't catch either!

[Emboldened Chimp]

120. Al said

"You don't get to the Black Caucus by acting up" or something like that.

[wyldwolf]

126. I think the disruptor said...

Bush is illegitimate.. the problem is Dick Cheney

[sfecap]

130. "Don't come to the Black Caucus and act up."

n/t

[TSIAS]

104. WTF just happened?

Some guy in the audience was yelling something that I could not understand.

[Woodstock]

123. They said he was yelling something about Cheney

Sharpton said, don't hold it against the Black caucus if they get out of control!

That guy just gave up a prime seat!!!

[tjdee]

105. What is that guy saying?

Gotta love live television!

[sham]

106. Mod just took a nasty pot-shot at Kerry, crowd booed.

To Graham: Do you think the pres intentionally misled the public?

Graham: Yes! *wild applause*

[eleny]

117. Go on there Graham!!!!!!

With the most emphatic "YES"

[blm]

150. Brit Hume loathes Kerry and has for 30 years.

Hume is a longtime BFEE propagandist.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

112. Bob Graham....

The questioner just asked Graham to answer the question more plainly than Kerry did, "Did the president intentionally mislead us?"

YES, says Bob. Kick ass!

And sorry, Kerry sidestepped the question, refused to say that Bush intentionally misled them. Lame.

But then a disruptor caused a ruckus, something about Cheney.

[eleny]

124. Graham's yes...

after Kerry's tap dance was bee-yooo-tiful!

[TSIAS]

114. Graham: "Osama Been Forgotten"

Great line

[DemNoir]

116. Here we go...

The Fox plant to make the Dem debate look like a circus!

[sham]

127. They let the bastard scream about Cheney for a long time.

Is there no security to haul his ass out of there?!?!

[cthrumatrix]

118. Imagine the "sheep" watching faux ....and hearing this....they must be in

shock....

You know that's happening around the country...

[Jackhammer Jesus]

119. Mosely-Braun

"They're spending like drunken sailors"

[FubarFly]

121. Braun: They are spending like drunken sailors. LOL!

[UTUSN]

Al: Shrub "acted like a gang leader - 'let's get it on' ". EDWARDS

EDWARDS targeting ASSSKKKKRAFT.

[dean4america]

128. Question to Sharpton came out of left field

Covert ops question? reference to Chilean coup, etc./

[FubarFly]

141. Edwards: I will repeal drastic portions of the Patriot Act.

Um, didn't you vote for it?

[GBD4]

129. Sharpton

uses "miserable failure" line

[dean4america]

sharpton making sense. eom.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

131. Sharpton calls Gep a miserable failure

for giving * a blank check without knowing the exit strategy.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

132. Sharpton!!!

Kicking the ass of those in Congress who voted for the IWR.

[Prag_Idealist]

WAMU has in broadcasting live on the net

http://www.wamu.org/

FYI

[Cha]

148. Thanks!

[newsguyatl]

151. thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!

[frank frankly]

153. thanks

thanks!

[poskonig]

133. Sharpton attacking prowar dems too.

giving the president a blank check is a "miserable failure."

[sham]

135. Sharpton slapping the donkey!!!

Allowing the pres. an entrance when you know there's no exit... THAT is a miserable failure! (paraphrasing)

[Emboldened Chimp]

136. New thread

For those with dial up...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=307704

[Renew Deal]

137. Sharpton just called * a "Gang Leader"

lol

[Kahuna]

138. Oh shit! Sharpton just turned the phrase :miserable failure..

around on Gep. Gep is getting his arse kicked tonight.

[TSIAS]

139. Al Sharpton

Called Bush a gang leader in regards to the "bring em on" comments.

[jburton]

140. Sharpton:

* acts like a gang lord with "bring it on" comments

[tjdee]

142. Ah--THERE'S my guy.

For dramatic revision of the Patriot Act.

He got a whole one question. Sigh.

I'm sure DK or Dean will slap him around for voting for it, though.

[Rooktoven]

147. Didn't DK vote for it too?

Edwards has made that a central theme to his run.

[Karmadillo]

172. Kucinich voted against the Patriot Act.

n/t

[UTUSN]

154. WILLIAMS Goading LIEB on Attacking DEAN ------Whups, Another Disruptor

[dean4america]

143. Dean getting the I/P question

big answer on the line.

[Atlant]

144. Juan F. Williams back at Dean with an I/P question... (NT)

[Atlant]

149. Dean:"Stop recycling oil money into terror (via Saudia Arabia, etc.)" (NT)

[Emboldened Chimp]

145. Can we lock this thread

and continue here?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=307704

[Woodstock]

146. Dean on Bush - 18 month holiday

for ignoring middle east

[SweetZombieJesus]

167. Oh, I get it. They're LaRouche nutbags

Though I do like Lieberman getting shouted down, they need to get those fucking LaRouche idiots out of there "Where's LaRouche?" Dean: "I suspect he's in jail."

Oh yay, Lieberman's quoting McCain. Great reference, buddy.

This question is an open door for Lieberman to bash Dean. Here we go.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

152. LOL!

Interrupting Holy Joe, this time it's somebody new.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

159. LaRouche disruptor

Get them out! Ridiculous.

And just when Joe was in the middle of saying something, uh, totally lame.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

161. screaming as she gets dragged out of the room

and Sharpton just took over for Holy Joe, who was in the middle of answering a question! This is classic!

[Renew Deal]

Another Disrupter screaming for Larouche.

"Where is Larouche"

[dean4america]

162. insane asylum? :)

[Heddi]

168. Did you hear the answer?

The heckler said "WHERE'S LAROUCHE" and someone (panel? moderators? audience?) said "Probably in jail!" ha ha ha

[SweetZombieJesus]

185. Dean said that!

Great line.

And yeah, I'm betting they were plants.

[Woodstock]

155. What is she saying???

Anyone???

[Atlant]

163. "Where's (Lyndon) LaRouche?" (As in, why isn't he here at the debate?) (NT

[Atlant]

156. Another LaRouche Douche shouting now. (NT)

[jburton]

157. NEW disruptor!

"Where's LaRouche?"

[FubarFly]

158. Another disruptor- for Lieberman

They are trying to play Lieberman against Dean over I/P

[Renew Deal]

166. Not for Lieberman. It is for Larouche

:nopity:

[DemNoir]

160. Oh Comon!!!

Tell me FOX didnt plant them !

[TheDonkey]

164. What's going on? Who is LaRouche??

Why are there so many protestors there.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

169. Lieberman doing Dean a big favor IMO

Selling Dean's position, thanks

No applause for Joe at all. LOL!

[Heddi]

171. oooh Joe's trying to interrupt Dean

pretty funny....

[SweetZombieJesus]

176. And Dean swats him away like a gnat

Joe just looked really, really stupid there. He's not winning any new converts tonight.

[Terwilliger]

170. LIEberman acting desperate...interrupting Dean

[Terwilliger]

175. Lieberman is acting in the interests of Israel

not in those of the United States

[FubarFly]

178. NO APPLAUSE for Lieberman.

Okay one guy. And many boos.

[Atlant]

173. Lieberman attacking Dean (as forecast here at DU earlier)

Dean right back at him with a strong response;
Lieberman getting Booed!

[Kahuna]

174. Dean and Lieb going at it over Israel..

back and forth. Lieb got booed.

[Woodstock]

177. Lieberman keeps going out of turn to diss Dean

how many times does he get to go out of turn???

they are booing him!!!!

why are the moderators letting him get away with it???

because they are repukes, that's why!!!

[poskonig]

179. Lieberman got smacked down pretty hard.

Dean told him not to demagogue the issue.

[Woodstock]

182. Dean got in his point about Clinton

Same as Clinton

LIEberman, YOU ARE AN ASS!!!

[poskonig]

180. Lieberman got smacked down pretty hard.

Dean told him not to demagogue the issue.

[Rooktoven]

181. Can we lock this one--taking longer to refresh --nt

[Atlant]

184. Second the motion (as we go to commercial)

[Emboldened Chimp]

186. Continue Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=307704&mesg_id=307704#307789

[Renew Deal]

183. Kerry is confusing. Said some mixed up stuff about vote for war.

[Kahuna]

187. Halftime report: Kerry, Gep and Lieb bloodied over Iraq vote..

Nobody mentioned Edwards.

[GBD4]

188. Gephardt

how many jobs will Americans have to lose before Dubya loses his?