conservative young people- fake or real?

[crazyzoeillinois]

I had to ask what is this? I got this crap in my mailbox, probably sent out to everybody if it got to me, about young people trying to be conservatives and have this web site ReaganReview.com. What is the world coming to!!!!! We need to talk sense into these people!!! Write them letters or like something! Are they real conservative young people or fakes?
Here's the official spam............
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The Reagan Review (http://www.reaganreview.com) is the hottest news source in Illinois politics. A fresh conservative website, its entire staff is 18 and under. The website – proof that young people are just as dedicated and determined as the website’s competitors – already features columns from State Sen. Chris Lauzen and State Rep. Paul Froehlich and interviews with Mrs. Blagojevich and several Republican politicians along with daily news updates.

Krystle Russin is the Illinois Teenage Republicans press secretary/webmaster and has written for online and print publications, such as PurePolitics.com, WomanSpeak Magazine and The State Journal-Register. Nathan Atkinson is currently a Voice correspondent for The State Journal-Register. Jeff Isbell is a member of his high school TV news team and both Isbell and Jarrod Dornfeld also belong to the Illinois Teenage Republicans as well.

To set up an interview with any of the following people, please contact them:

Krystle Russin, Editor-in-Chief
[e-mail]
Quincy, IL

Nathan Atkinson, Assistant Editor
[e-mail]
Athens, IL

Jeff Isbell, Staff Writer
[e-mail]
Herrin, IL

Jarrod Dornfeld, Advertising Director
[e-mail]
Geneseo, IL
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WHew. What the ****?

[cdb]

1. They are real.

They are very real, and their numbers are growing. There are conservative clubs in colleges and high schools all over the place. Their legitimacy is reinforced by the usual media channels. This sucks.

[crazyzoeillinois]

3. problem- what is the solution?

So if they ARRE real how do we change them!?!?

[mattclearing]

6. Make rock/hip-hop music that the other kids will listen to.

They will be quickly ostracized and made fun of, until they decide to pursue a career in politics, where they can then cram their bullshit values down all of our throats...

Oh wait, we already did that. Can we do it again?

I guess that's where Clear Channel comes in.

[Warpy]

8. Those "conservative student organizations" are headed by

rather nasty right wing adults who draw their funding from rather nasty right wing think tanks.

The Democrats, as usual, have been asleep at the wheel for 30 years, not funding think tanks or college clubs, not providing experts to media, not doing a damned thing but whoring after corporations and squabbling over the yuppie vote.

Yes, those poor kids are real. Yes, some of them will remain right wing all their lives. No, they're not being countered.

[cdb]

12. Grass roots

The repubs have got the machinery in place. The dems are, in fact, lame. I wish there had been some foresight, some grass roots activism 20 years ago... during the reagan years would have been a prime time to mobilize.

[skypilot]

2. As is often stated...

...bring back the draft and then we'll see how "real" they are.

[ThorsHammer]

15. Bingo

[Done]

23. They shouldn't need a draft.

They should sign up for the military without a draft...oh, that's right, they're a bunch of hypocrites.

[seabeyond]

4. conditioned the same as any good islamic fundamentalist n/t

[Newsjock]

5. Only as real as the millions of dollars they're getting

Poor college students, always in need of beer (and bong) money -- meet this group that will shovel Big Money their way, and all they have to do is invite some speakers to campus, maybe throw together a "newspaper."

It's the modern no-condom-required version of how enterprising college students used to raise such money -- "gay for pay."

If Soros and his clan were out there handing out the bucks to college groups wanting to spread progressive ideals (AND WHY ISN'T HE), you'd see just as many left-leaning college groups.

[crazyzoeillinois]

9. I'm scared Americans will all be like this

Election 2004!! What the ***!?! People were swayed by conservatives!

What's most pathetic is you're wrong and I'd like you to be right about the beer. They're really conservative minors. Let me copy what the e-mail said here......
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The Reagan Review (http://www.reaganreview.com) is the hottest news source in Illinois politics. A fresh conservative website, its entire staff is 18 and under. The website – proof that young people are just as dedicated and determined as the website’s competitors – already features columns from State Sen. Chris Lauzen and State Rep. Paul Froehlich and interviews with Mrs. Blagojevich and several Republican politicians along with daily news updates.

Krystle Russin is the Illinois Teenage Republicans press secretary/webmaster and has written for online and print publications, such as PurePolitics.com, WomanSpeak Magazine and The State Journal-Register. Nathan Atkinson is currently a Voice correspondent for The State Journal-Register. Jeff Isbell is a member of his high school TV news team and both Isbell and Jarrod Dornfeld also belong to the Illinois Teenage Republicans as well.

To set up an interview with any of the following people, please contact them:

Krystle Russin, Editor-in-Chief
[e-mail]
Quincy, IL

Nathan Atkinson, Assistant Editor
[e-mail]
Athens, IL

Jeff Isbell, Staff Writer
[e-mail]
Herrin, IL

Jarrod Dornfeld, Advertising Director
[e-mail]
Geneseo, IL
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Ok, maybe we can send them evil messages!! And that other conservative confused teen Kyle Williams!

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

17. kick

I believe you are 100% correct.

[aintitfunny]

7. There is no such thing as a "Young" Republican

Sad but true.

[texastoast]

10. From People for the American Way

I got this email last month. While the summit has past, there are many other opportunities that need funding. I changed the PFAW link so you can see the photos and information about the summit and there is a link at the site for contributions. There is an opportunity for you to donate, or become one of the "brightest young people in the country." Check it out.

__________________________________________________

Sponsor a Young Progressive Leader!
Your Gift Will Be Matched Dollar for Dollar through the Online Challenge

Dear,

Invest in the
Progressive Future
of America

Sponsor a Young People For Fellow and double the impact of your gift through the Online Challenge!

When Norman Lear and the other founders of People For the American Way Foundation created this organization almost 25 years ago to stand up against the Religious Right, we never thought its narrow message of intolerance, inequality, and moral superiority would find a place among younger Americans.

Well, we were wrong. Today, the Radical Right pours some $37 million annually into a comprehensive and coordinated leadership development strategy that develops political skills and long-term political commitment among young neo-conservatives. We ignore this success at our peril.

We need only look at the success of the Radical Right’s strategic leaders such as Karl Rove or Ralph Reed to know that they’ve been doing something right in leadership generation. Both Rove and Reed were leaders of the College Republicans before launching major league careers, and they have created the network that brought the Right to power in recent years.

We can lament their successes, or we can do better. I’ve decided we can do better.

That’s why we’ve created Young People For, a major new program designed to identify and engage young progressive activists and leaders and equip them to move into positions of leadership around the nation. We’re launching Young People For at a four-day training summit here in Washington in January, and I need your help to make this summit as successful as possible for the next generation of progressive leaders.

http://www.youngpeoplefor.org/site/pp.asp?c=fvKVLeMVItG&b=278087&sid=61307477

I know I can’t match the Radical Right’s $37 million, but we can go toe-to-toe with them by supporting the brightest young people in the country who will be coming to the summit.

The best news is that we’re starting off with a $150,000 challenge grant from one our major donors. This grant is specific to Young People For, and will match dollar for dollar any gift you make over the internet. This means that your gift in support of Young People For is actually doubled – your $100 becomes $200; $250 becomes $500, $500 becomes $1,000 and so on.

The Young People For Fellowship Program is a year-long program for 120 freshmen, sophomores, and juniors from colleges and universities around the country that will begin with the summit in Washington from January 14-17.

The fellowship program will help today’s rising progressive leaders accomplish their goals and make a difference on their campuses, in the community, and across the nation. Through the program, we will reach 6,000 young progressive leaders on 40 college campuses in seven states and the District of Columbia and bring them into the Young People For network.

We’d like to keep the cost for each Young People For fellow to a minimum by providing full “leadership scholarships” to attend the summit, where they will learn how to push progressive issues in their community and in the media, broaden their progressive networks and cultivate their skills through training on messaging, media and communication, advocacy, research, and political organizing.

The cost for each leadership fellow to attend the summit is $1,500, or $100 for each of the 15 sessions each fellow will attend. You can help through a gift of $50, $100, $250, or even $750. Remember, your gift is doubled, so a $50 gift will underwrite a $100 session; a $750 gift will underwrite the entire $1,500 cost.

The inaugural class of Young People For Fellows is excited and full of dreams about how they can shape a progressive future – they believe they can change the world. We believe they're up for the challenge, but we need your help to make their dreams a reality. Please be as generous as you can.

Sincerely,

Ralph G. Neas
President
People For the American Way Foundation

[crazyzoeillinois]

11. this organization is a lifesaver

What a relief! Something to counter things like this.

[otohara]

13. Following Their Parents

of my son's friends, only a few who have GOP parents are progressive/liberal. The rest are following family tradition with few details as to why? Most come from upper middle class homes and protecting thier precious tax cuts come first.

Otherwise they say, but, I'm for a woman's right to choose and other liberal social positions. Which is total bullshit - I'm sick of hearing GOP'ers saying they vote GOP mainly for tax cuts. This is a piss poor excuse to buy into the whole ugly agenda of the right-wing represents.

[thefloyd]

14. I think conservatism is becoming "trendy"

I am new to Saint Louis so I have been trying out a dating website. All of a sudden there are people claiming to have "values" and are "conservative". It is definitely a trend

[mermaid]

19. Well, If So, Then The Good News Is That Trends And Fads DIE!!!!

n/t

[texastoast]

26. Fascism was a trend.

Naziism was a trend.

Here is a WWII German perspective on some of the parallels between Naziism and the new Americanism.

. . . snip

So far, I’ve seen nothing to eliminate the possibility that Bush is on the same course as Hitler. And I’ve seen far too many analogies to dismiss the possibility. The propaganda. The lies. The rhetoric. The nationalism. The flag waving. The pretext of “preventive war.” The flaunting of international law and international standards of justice. The disappearances of “undesirable” aliens. The threats against protesters. The invasion of a non-threatening sovereign nation. The occupation of a hostile country. The promises of prosperity and security. The spying on ordinary citizens. The incitement to spy on one’s neighbors - and report them to the government. The arrogant triumphant pride in military conquest. The honoring of soldiers. The tributes to “fallen warriors.” The diversion of money to the military. The demonization of government appointed “enemies.” The establishment of “Homeland Security.” The dehumanization of “foreigners.” The total lack of interest in the victims of government policy. The incarceration of the poor and mentally ill. The growing prosperity from military ventures. The illusion of “goodness” and primacy. The new einsatzgrupen forces. Assassination teams. Closed extralegal internment camps. The militarization of domestic police. Media blackout of non-approved issues. Blacklisting of protesters - including the no-fly lists and photographing dissenters at rallies.

. . . more

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/printerfriendly.cfm?pffile=voicenazi_content.cfm

[TWiley]

16. Check into the Church link.

There is probably some kind of relationship with religion. The evangelical movement has been getting bigger with young folks.

The link between religion and Conservative Politics is well established.

Unfortunately, this crap will likely get worse as more money is given to the evangelical community through Vouchers and Faith Based Initiates.

The total amount given through FBI in 2004 was about 2 Billion, and I have heard that as much as 20 Billion will be available this year.

I feel that taxpayer money is being used to fund the conservative agenda in general, and religion also played a major role in the last election.

Tax dollars paid to the IRS by Democrats are being used to finance the Conservative Agenda.

[thefloyd]

18. Usually

the true Christians state the religion right from the get go. Never mention politics.

[TWiley]

27. That is what I would think.

We seem to have a different crop of Christian this year though. Most are politically conservative and also political activists.

I am leaning toward "what really is" instead of "what should be" or "what I would wish for".

At this time, it is more important to understand the soul of this movement as it really is, and not by what it "should" be.

[Dark]

20. I know lots of conservative young people.

They are more common than people think.

[smbolisnch]

22. Yes they are.

I am 25, I assume that's a "young person". It never ceases to amaze me how many of my peers are really conservative. It scary, but party a regional thing too, I'm sure.

[AtivanCocktail]

21. U of Miami has a large group

of young conservatives that are out prmoting Bush's SS plan. They're for real.

[Johonny]

24. I went

to small NY college in which roughly 90 % of the population was conservative. I say it's nothing new.

[crazyzoeillinois]

25. idea

OK my idea is to 1 e-mail these kids and 2 make a web site on tripod or like somwhere so we can talk about people like these, have a countdown of who to watch our backs for, solutions........comments???

[enki23]

28. the hitler youth were real

there's no reason to believe the republican youth are much different, in that respect. the vast majority young people are, like older people, inherently stupid followers. that's true no matter what cause they've adopted.

i think the five percent nation folks had it mostly right, at least so far as the non-religious bits went. 85% of people are ignorant, stupid followers. 10% are "leaders" of the 85%, parasites who live off the labor of the masses. that leaves 5% who want the best for the 85%, in that we don't want them to be slaves to us or to anyone else, and so find ourselves in opposition to nearly everyone. of course, i'm neither black, nor muslim, but they sure as hell got that one more or less right.

[American Tragedy]

29. I only remind you that the young vote went to Kerry

unlike every other age group.

And even if the youth had perfect turnout, they would still be overwhelmingly outnumbered by the boomers who voted for Bush.

[mark414]

30. scary as shit

i'm young (20) and i honestly don't understand why young people are conservative...they have absolutely no reason to be

older folks with jobs and income and wealth i can understand but young people??? what the fuck?

usually i just attribute it to being clueless about how life really works.

there's nothing scarier than a young republican.