DEM DEBATE ON FOX THREAD 3

[Heddi]

the other one is taking soooo long to load

oooh..back from commercial :)

[CentristDemocrat]

1. Kerry = excuse-making machine

[leftyandproud]

2. KUCINICH ROCKS!!!

Admit it folks!!! Listen to him! We love him...the audience LOVES him! He stands for EVERYTHING we believe in. Now is the time to get behind him!!

[Jawja]

4. Yes, Kucinich

is great tonight.

[mkregel]

14. (ahem) he doesn't stand for everything i beleive in

Flag burning should not be a crime - I kinda like the first ammendment.

[leftofthedial]

99. Go Dennis Go

Kucinich is an unabashed, outspoken, dead-on Democrat.

His ideas are by far the best and most in keeping with Democratic principles.

[Heddi]

3. Graham against Same-Sex marriage

well, he's off my list....

[dean4america]

5. that was surprising

I didn't know exactly where he stood on the issue, but I didn't like his take on it at all.

[Heddi]

10. I thought he was going to say

something about approving CIVIL UNIONS---but didn't.

Said that marriage was an institution btwn a woman and a man with the PRIMARY GOAL OF NURTURING A CHILD---oh yeah? So I guess childless married couples should be shot by the state for not living up to their "primary goal of marriage"?

What about homosexuals with children? I guess they don't count either....

[FlashHarry]

16. That's his own personal, religious opinion.

The important thing is civil unions, not 'marriage.'

[Heddi]

that's fine and dandy===however

I don't agree with it. I think it's bigoted and anti-equal rights.

I wouldn't be making a big deal if he qualified his denouncement of gay marriage by saying something positive or supportive of civil unions.

But he didn't.

And he further added salt to the wound by saying that marriage was between a man and a woman with the PRIMARY GOAL OF RAISING A CHILD---strange, that, because I didn't marry my husband so that we could have a child. In fact, we're not going to have children.

So, according to Graham, because the PRIMARY GOAL of marriage is to raise and nurture a child, then my marriage is moot and should be invalidated because we're not living up to our primary goal of marriage.

He's also forgetting the LARGE number of homosexual couples that successfully raise very healthy, happy, and nurtured children...

[nostamj]

78. i think he wants to make it clear

that the 'marriage' angle is bogus. gay people (and I'm one of them) don't expect EVERY denomination to sanction the unions of gay couples.

and we don't really care. PLENTY will.

the issue is and has always, only been. parity in couple's rights. respect for the legitimacy of gay couples.

[Rowdyboy]

8. Nothing new there...

Social equality will come slowly, not all at once. To press for everything at once is to risk losing all we've gained. And he essentially supported legal equality...Where's the big problem?

Plus any candidate endorsing gay marriage in America today would instantly doom themselves to around 38% of the vote, nationally.

[imax2268]

6. Who do you like so far...

Dean...great come back against Leiberman...
Kucinich is sounding good...!

Sharpton...making some noise...!

[Heddi]

95. DK is kicking ass

but then again, i like him the most----alot of people are saying alot of good things up there....then there are some people who I just want to shove a sock in their mouths.....

[sfecap]

7. Gee, Juan...kinda leading the question aren't ya?

Trying to get CMB to go after Dean...

[Orangepeel]

9. What the hell was that question!?!

"Dean says white people don't need gun control." Idiot moderator.

[arcane1]

26. that idiot has been asking misleading question all night

especially for Dean, though he's been shitty with Kerry too

Fox, ya know, gotta "balance" things by asking O'Reilly-esque questions...

[Atlant]

36. It's what Juan does. He's got his eyes on the prize: $$$$$ (NT)

[dean4america]

11. hopefully Dean

will get to explain his position - knowing fox, they will ask him about something else.

also, dean should have gotten the civil unions question.

[Blue-Jay]

12. What a shit question.

Implying that Dean thinks that black areas need gun control, but white areas don't. Blatant misrepresentation.

[imax2268]

13. Yup...

ooop...here we go...!!!

[Atlant]

107. Juan gets his questions from the RNC!! What a freaking shock!

Sharpton's kicking his ass again, of course!

[Khephra]

15. That was disgusting

Juan was purposely distorting Dean's position to try to stir up racial anger against him. That was so apparent I couldn't believe it!

[Gloria]

104. Glad Dean went back to the "gun" question and clarified his position

and put Juan in his place....the look on Juan's face...his eyes got all shifty....
Like that "rapid response" on Dean's part! Excellent work tonight. I've been a little uneasy about Dean so far in these debates and TV things,but he's VERY GOOD so far tonight!!

[Starpass]

17. Let's see - all these assholes are a miserable failure

..except Dennis and Dean.............yep, sure, ...oh, I wish I had Fox on my cable. I guess the rest of them should just drop out. Losers all. No support. Bums. hmmmm... Wes need not apply either...........

[RichV]

18. Trent Lott line

CLASSIC!

[jos]

19. Yes

Great line. He was ready for the question.

[imax2268]

20. Did you hear that answer from Dean...!!!

Nice...

I think I even heard an amen from the Audience...!

[Dude_CalmDown]

21. What did Dean just say MLK and Trent Lott?

I just heard a lot of laughing but missed what was said.

[Woodstock]

He said if ability to connect with African Americans

is linked to the population of African Americans in your state

then Trent Lott is MLK

[Orangepeel]

41. If the percentage of African Americans in a state

equalled the ability to connect with African American voters, then Trent Lott would be MLK.

He also went back and took that idiot Juan Williams to task for his stupid question to CMB

[Dude_CalmDown]

80. Thanks both - n/t

*

[TSIAS]

22. Another disruptor

"LaRouche for President"

[Renew Deal]

23. Another Larouche disruptor.

[Emboldened Chimp]

33. Assholes!

Fox HAD to have set that up!


I liked how Edwards used the time to ask about Dean's sticker: he's supporting the union on campus!

[jab105]

67. GO SHARPTON GO!!!!!

Good for him!!

[sham]

24. Dean's sticker:

"I support the union on campus."

[RevolutionStartsNow]

30. Big applause

Good move by Dean!

[imax2268]

39. Are those neo-cons disrupting...?

I would be embarrassed if I was a conservative having these people that can't contain themselves on National TV...

[spooky3]

92. fortunately, their comments are not audible

but AS called them out as did CMB--did you do this at the Republicans' debate???

[poskonig]

25. Dean made the laugh of the night

If state minority percentage is indicator of support of civil rights, Trent Lott would be Martin Luther King!

[jab105]

37. LOL!!

That was the best!!

Yes, please talk about teachers...and my $25K starting pay....BLAH!

[Atlant]

45. A *GREAT* Dean line! (NT)

[Atlant]

27. And *ANOTHER* Douche for LaRouche checks in (and out?) (NT)

[UTUSN]

54. The Ed GORDON Dude "Participates" in the Debate

He comments on their answers and "banters". 3rd Disruptor gone. SHARPTON scolding the disruptors.

[Khephra]

56. Joe is starting to lose it...did you see the look on his face?

Sharpton kicking ass!

[jos]

28. Dean's wearing a pro-union sticker

n/t

[jab105]

29. What just happened??

Someone was yelling??

[CentristDemocrat]

31. Dean kicked ass

[RevolutionStartsNow]

40. Agreed

He also was able to answer about the gun control question

[TheDonkey]

32. This debate is going bad for all of em'... ick

They all seem to be stumbling and messing up.

I'm sure FOX is delighted.

[Renew Deal]

38. Kerry doesn't seem up to it.

[jos]

70. He sounds hoarse again

.

[sham]

43. I think Dean, DK and Edwards are doing well.

Dean and DK are much calmer than usual.

These disruptors are fucking pathetic....

[dean4america]

44. Dean and Sharpton are doing well. Edwards is doing ok.

kerry is stumbling.

these hecklers are probably FOX plants.

[Orangepeel]

73. Edwards hit the voucher question out of the park

[FubarFly]

49. Heartlily disagree...

They are all doing wonderful with the obvious exception of Lieberman

[MidwestMomma]

57. Makes you think the disruptors ARE planted

To make the candidates look bad. This is pissing me off. Al is pissed. He's like, we got people that can take care of this security if you can't. Fucking Fox!

[Atlant]

75. Gee, ya think??? (NT)

[Atlant]

90. I disagree completely. They're nearly all showing great grace under fire.

[LosinIt]

They are not all messing up

please don't bother disrupting here, we don't need you.

[Rooktoven]

97. Edwards seems on message-- nt

[dean4america]

34. Dean's patch says:

"I support the union on campus" --

AFSCME apparently attempting to unionize on campus

[Township75]

35. Excuse my ignorance, but who the FUCK is LaRouche?

?

[Atlant]

59. LaRouche is a nutbar...

LaRouche is a nutbar who claims to be a Democrat but simply
needs to be institutionalized.

Sharpton's on the attack!!! Smokin!!!!

Atlant

[Rooktoven]

42. Since I can't reply in thread 2...

What is with Dean saying he is the only white candidate who talks to wihites about black issues? isn't that a reach?

[Rooktoven]

53. These interruptions are too numerous to be

accidental and only caused by LaRouche.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

46. ANOTHER disruptor.

And Brit Hume just giggles about it every time it happens.

[Emboldened Chimp]

47. Fox set this crap up

This hasn't happened at any of the other debates.

[gristy]

I doubt it

These disruptions do NOT reflect well on fox.

[Heddi]

Carol just asked

"Did they do this to republicans? They didn't do this to republicans" and I think she was talking about the disruptors.

They (the disruptors) are most CERTAINLY fox plants. or republican plants. or GOP plants....(not that there's any difference between them)

[MidwestMomma]

81. I agree

nt

[Dude_CalmDown]

48. So who allowed the nutjobs into the audience?

Brit Hummer?

[Renew Deal]

50. Another Larouche disruptor.

[TSIAS]

51. And again

More disruption

[Hoppin_Mad]

52. Another LaRouche disruptor !

maybe they were hired by Fox !

[Samuraimad]

64. thats my thought

.

[spooky3]

76. Joe just said a patronizing "Amen" to his "brother"

Rev. Sharpton. I am now joining the ranks of those of you who find him utterly disgusting.

[FubarFly]

77. "There goes another supporter of LaRouche"

They plugged the bastard.

[Blue-Jay]

55. WTF?!?

is with these Larouche assholes? Al's slapping them down right now. Go Al!

[matcom]

65. THIS IS A FUCKING CIRCUS!

any COINCIDENCE THIS IS HAPPENING ON FAUX????

NOT!!!

[dean4america]

58. Sharpton is raising up and representing

this whole debate is turning into a fucking freak show,.

[FlashHarry]

68. Bizarre.

And Lieberman's sycophantic, half-hearted 'Amen.' Ugh.

[Emboldened Chimp]

60. Sharpton

You got something to say, say it now!

[Woodstock]

61. Sharpton ROCKS!!!

LIEberman you SUCK.

[Cush]

62. Sharton is piss

YOu give us this 'phony liberal' stuff.

Braun: Do you do this for Republicans?

[Kahuna]

63. Rove's disruptors are in da house!

:eyes:

[RevolutionStartsNow]

66. This sucks

if it keeps going the headlines will be about the disruptors.

Lieberman just called Sharpton his "good friend." Oh fuck you Joe.

[Woodstock]

84. Phony kissing up will get you nowhere LIEberman

Even after kissing up, he gets lukewarm applause.

[Blue-Jay]

103. Al got an "Amen Brother" from Holy Joe!

Aahahahahahahaha!

That's comparable to me walking into a Black Panthers meeting and saying "Yo, where my homies at?" What a dumbass.

[sfecap]

69. I am getting suspicious...

Did Fox allow these disruptors in? On purpose?

[dean4america]

86. yes.

one is a fluke, but 3 or 4? nah, they have to be plants.

[Terwilliger]

89. maybe they got in

without being spotted as disruptors :eyes:

[Terwilliger]

91. maybe they got in

without being spotted as disruptors :eyes:

[Rooktoven]

71. Thank you Al. --nt

[sham]

72. Sharpton making the point

that these disruptors are not real liberals.

[Woodstock]

93. Maybe the LaRouche people are calling the panel

"phony liberals"???

Just conjecture. LaRouche is a Democrat.

[Atlant]

100. If LaRouche is a Democrat, I'm Eleanor Roosevelt. (NT)

[Renew Deal]

74. Lieberman just said "Amen Brother" to Sharpton

[UTUSN]

85. End of Round (3?) - Somebody Start a New Thread

[David Zephyr]

79. I'm On Radio/Internet Delay, But Sharpton is Kicking Ass!

He's rightous!

[Terwilliger]

82. Oh COME ON!!!

What is it, Karl Rove? Is he tearing down democracy sending LaRouche disruptors to the Democratic debates?

[Renew Deal]

83. Braun said disrupters are republicans.

[Renew Deal]

87. Debate will be prtrayed as a Zoo by the Repuke press.

[Terwilliger]

96. Democrats will bend to whatever Repuke media says

why worry?

[sham]

88. LIEberman just made me laugh out loud!!!

Invoking 2000... Talking about how blacks were denied their voting rights when they went to the polls in FL to "help elect Al Gore and ME!"

[Heddi]

102. yeah, Al, what noise did YOU make when it happened?

answer: NONE!!!

Stupid fucker. I can't stand Joe Leiberman....and this debate is re-confirming every ounce of hatred I had for the man before tonight...

[RevolutionStartsNow]

94. Even the commercials suck on FOX

I miss my TiVo! (Watching in a hotel)

[Renew Deal]

98. Debate is a Total Loss at this point.

It will be portrayed as a zoo and no ones message is getting through.

[sham]

101. And that's exactly what Faux wanted.

[gristy]

105. GO HERE FOR ROUND 4

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=308099

[kaitykaity]

106. None of my audio players will work

I can't find a WinAmp link

RealPlayer says I don't have a plug-in
and
MediaPlayer says file not compatible.


HELP!!!!!!!!!