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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:32 PM
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Was Gannon/Guckert REWARDED For His "SERVICES"???
Many seem to think he was blackmailing someone high up and that's how he got his "credentials". That may be true, however, I think it's unlikely. I don't think he blackmailed a bush (or Rove etc.), if that were the case, I think he'd be dead, and quick.

No, I think it's more sordid than that.

I think the Bushes (and others in their "circle") are sexual deviants and have a need to fulfill and cover up their urges. Gannon may be part of the support mechanism for that and was rewarded for his service and/or used because that role would make him a good candidate for his more public role as a faux reporter.

Those Bushes are almost certainly sexual deviants of some sort (not that homosexuality is sexually deviant, that's not what I mean), it goes with the territory that comes w/ their mental illnesses and their severe sexual repression is overcompensation for some bizzarre sexual proclivities...I would guess some sort of sadomasochistic tendencies and/or torture and pedophilia...Bush's torture of small animals when he was younger is suggestive that that sort of behavior holds some sort of sexual gratification for him...I bet a lot of work goes into them procuring the objects of and the fulfillment of their deviant sexual urges and also in covering it up and keeping it secret...Gannon may have been part of the network and as such would have also been a prime recruit for the more public role he has filled as press room lacky and lickspittle...
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:34 PM
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1. Very interesting theory
wonder if we'll ever know for sure?

great post btw:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:40 PM
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3. Thanks!
There have been stories over the years that support this theory, including the stories about the underage male prostitutes that were being brought into the Bush Sr. WH.

Of course, we'll probably never know, but I just have a feeling that there is soooo much more here than meets the eye and these types of people, given the amazing amount of power that they have, would pretty much find it impossible to NOT use that power to fulfill whatever sexual urges they have.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:40 PM
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2. Do you remember Reagan Admin's big Sex Scandal?
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 02:43 PM by KoKo01
Male Escorts at the highest level of Government? It's been linked here on DU many times. Maybe Gannon was part of that. And, maybe it was payback that he would expose the group? Or it's what you say, that it's part of an ongoing perversion that's been there for a long time.

It does seem that many Repugs are being outed for some odd goings on considering their "holier than thou" attitudes.

Many closeted homosexuals who condemn their fellow gays and get away with it..:shrug:

On Edit: It was Reagan Administration...just edited my subject line.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:41 PM
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4. Assuming you are right
the conservative media machine will be in spin over drive and all will be forgiven from pulpits throughout the red states. It will be a need to let off steam after having to clean up the eight years of peace and prosperity. And at freeperville, all must learn how to understand the moral failings of those high up the republican hierarchy. After all, promoting and feeding fascism is hard work and the need to unwind is incredible.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:30 PM
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19. The Cognitive Dissonance Will Be Insane
That's for damn sure!
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:41 PM
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5. Could be linked to my theory that Barbara and Dubya
had a sickeningly close relationship.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:48 PM
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9. hulpp...mmph.......Retch........bleahhhhh!
There goes for my lunch.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:50 PM
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11. Yes, That's Certainly Possible
and wouldn't be uncommon in their type of family...Barbara was in some sense a neglected wife...Bush Sr., always away from home, probably engaging in his own sexual deviancies that she was probably tangentially aware of...Bush Jr. was the little man at home...I would suspect she probably molested him in some fashion to fulfill her own "needs". It wouldn't be unheard of...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:45 PM
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6. Here ya go..some links to Sex /Escort Scandal in Reagan's Administration.
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 02:55 PM by KoKo01
(Not trying to hijack your thread Beetwasher, but maybe this all ties into Gannon in some way with your theory...I don't have time to post the individual articles but if anyone wants to check them out it might be interesting)


Federal Observer Articles - Federal Observer
... it possible for Washington's homosexual escort services to ... been linked to a homosexual
prostitution ring ... senior posts during the Reagan administration or were ...
www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=6169 - 20k - Cached - Similar pages


Sex, Lies, Videotape, Teenagers, Drugs, Blackmail, and Death ... One former Reagan administration official who worked at ... spending clients of the
homosexual prostitution network ... Express card for male escorts from Professional ...
www.freerepublic.com/forum/a388cd49f5ce8.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages




07/29/04 TWN-Through Time
... officials used a homosexual prostitution ring ... into the string of escort services,
is ... legislation – Washington: The Reagan administration opposes legislation ...
www.twnonline.org/Archive_TWN/ 040729/040729_twn_through_time.htm - 10k - Cached - Similar pages


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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:47 PM
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8. AWESOME!!!
You ROCK!!!

Yes, it's all connected...Gannon may not have been directly connected to this past scandal, but the connection is the ongoing cover up of the clandestine and possibly deviant sexual activities of the Bushes and their associates...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:50 PM
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10. Just remember that the same Reagan Administration people are there now!
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Condi (who came in and out) and many others are BACK. I don't have time to go through these articles...but I have a hunch there's something there...would take more Googling and digging to find a name and a connection but I hope someone checks it out.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:54 PM
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12. nevermind...
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 03:07 PM by KoKo01
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:05 PM
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15. Heads Up....check this one out...one of the links has interesting info...

FROM "THE FEDERAL REGISTER:"

June 29- Homosexual prostitution probe ensnares officials of Bush, Reagan. 'Call boys' took midnight tour of the White House. " It seemed a homosexual prostitution ring was under investigation by federal and District authorities and included among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washington's political elite. Editors of The Times said the newspaper would print only the names of those found to be in sensitive government posts or positions of influence.

June 29- Call-boy service prospers using high finance, high tech. Elaborate telephone switching equipment and out-of-town check cashing and credit card processing centers made it possible for Washington's homosexual escort services to launder hundred of thousands of dollars annually from clients....

June 30- Power broker served drugs, sex at parties bugged for blackmail. It seems a 48-year-old D.C. power broker who had long been linked to a homosexual prostitution ring was under investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office. He threw glittery parties for key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, media stars and top military officers, bugged the gatherings to compromise guests, provided cocaine, blackmailed some associates and spent up to $20,000 a month on male prostitutes.

June 30- Capital has long been seduced by tales of sexual impropriety by noted Washingtonians which is almost as old as the nation itself. The article went on to describe sexual peccadillos of others in high places.

June 30 - The Republican National Committee calls the scandal a "tragic situation". A Justice Department spokesman said the investigation was being led by the Secret Service but denied the government was investigating the possibility that homosexuals held senior posts during the Reagan administration or were compromised by blackmail or by Soviet agents who may have used young male prostitutes for espionage purposes...and the White House distanced itself from the reports.

However, Rep. Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat and self-proclaimed homosexual had threatened to reveal a list of Republican homosexuals in Congress. He said he was "not surprised" by the revelations. He said almost all Republican homosexuals were "in the closet so there is the impression there aren't any Republicans..." Former Congressman Bob Dornan (R-Cal) confirmed recently on his radio talk show that Barney was right.


July 11, 2003

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:7MmE-7XvQKwJ:www.federalobserver.com/archive.php%3Faid%3D6169+Reagan,+Sex+Escort+Ring&hl=en
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:09 PM
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16. Good Stuff!!
:thumbsup:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:47 PM
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7. who are his "friends"?.....
We need to start digging! Find every mention of him, find out who he hangs out with, who has mentioned him (before now, lol) or recommended him, or said anything nice about him, etc.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:01 PM
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22. Kick!
n/t
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hangemhigh Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:00 PM
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13. I think you're right on the money here, Beetwasher.
Nice work, sadly not too surprising about this crew and way too many closeted gays on the right working publicly to undermine gay rights not to be on the take in one way or another. There have been rumors before that Chimp is deeply closeted. As loud and vicious of a homophobe as he is, this would not surprise me, in fact, I take it as a hint.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:05 PM
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14. Yeah And Also It's Been Reported That Gannon MAY HAVE HUNG OUT W/ BUSH
at the ranch. There are quotes of Bush referring to sitting on the porch of the ranch w/ "The Gannon's". I don't think it's been confirmed that it was the same Gannon, but I do think it is quite possible.

The "Ranch" would be the perfect place for Bush to carry out his covert sexual agenda and if Gannon is a part of that, it would only be fitting that he would visit. And it isn't odd how often Bush comes back from the ranch with various facial abrasions??? Hmmm, I'm beginning to wonder if these aren't the byproducts of some his sexual escapades...:evilgrin:
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:18 PM
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17. Hmm- has he ever received one of his facial abrasions when he
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 03:18 PM by Stirk
was not on the ranch? I never noticed that before.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:21 PM
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18. I Seem To Remember That They Have Been Explained As
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 03:25 PM by Beetwasher
something he received while clearing brush (at the ranch, a couple of times I think) and one time when he fell down choking on a pretzel (at the ranch), falling off his bike (at the ranch) etc...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:31 PM
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20. Yes...here's the transcript from the White House site of the 'Gannons"
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 03:35 PM by KoKo01
visit. (BTW...I think the Kos site is onto all of this. When I googled there was a link to Kos Diaries. I don't post over there or read much except what's liked from there to DU...but just for this thread here's the snip of the "visit.")

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Q Some of your friends are surprised that you like to come out here basically in the middle of nowhere and just kind of be by yourself.

THE PRESIDENT: I guess they don't know what it's like to be the President. (Laughter.) I get plenty of quality time with a lot of really good people. Sometimes, it's important to just get away as well.

Plus, you know, one of the things we miss in Washington is our friends. And they're here. We've got the Weisses here, the Gannons are here, Pam Nelson is here. And we find it really relaxing to sit down on the porch with our buddies and just shoot the breeze. And, you know, it's amazing. You don't have to defend any policy you make. I mean, your friends are your friends. These people were friends of mine before I became President, they'll be friends of mine after I'm the President. And people just take you for what you are.

Q Do you do your own cooking here at the ranch?

THE PRESIDENT: Do I?

Q Yes.


http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:VAIjMTniiT0J:www.911truth.org/readingroom/whole_document.php%3Farticle_id%3D217+Bush+at+Ranch+with+Gannons&hl=en
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:33 PM
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21. On A Hunch, I'd Say the Weisses Are Involved
in the purported covert deviant sexual activities...Who are they and Pam Nelson? Any clue?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:41 PM
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24. It's probably a different group of Gannons....but fun as a "tease." n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:13 PM
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25. Kick
n/t
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:46 PM
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23. Kick
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 04:48 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
:kick:

reagan sex scandals help bring down bush the second...details at 11
that would be great
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