The only real loser tonight: Joe Lieberman

[SweetZombieJesus]

See, I was for you thirty years ago black people! Let's see how many times I can squeeze MLK into my bullshit, hollow answer!

Sharpton kicked ass in dealing with the LaRouche Douches, Gephardt did well, Kucinich is giving the guys who voted for the war the proper amount of shit, Dean looks really good, and Edwards ain't bad either. Kerry was kind of so so, Graham looked great.

I've gone from hating Joe to feeling sorry for him. He just doesn't get it, does he?

[FarLeftRage]

1. I would have to agree

Although I am not watching (no cable), I am getting a lot of info and feedback here...

[Woodstock]

2. AMEN TO THAT!

I have negative respect for him.

[carrowsboy]

3. You got that right!

He's so smarmy it is not even funny.

I'd vote Bush over him and that says a lot!

[roughsatori]

4. Your perceptions are the same as my own on this debate

And I really liked Carol Moseley Braun very much tonight.

[papau]

7. I agree - except I'd rate Edwards a bit better, and Dean a bit worse

Dean seemed distracted to me - perhaps tired.

[Fixated]

5. ...

He's just more right-wing than you. He's better than Bush, so who gives a damn? Support your boy/girl. Mine isn't even there yet...

[SweetZombieJesus]

9. I assume you mean Clark

I would have LOVED to see Clark join these guys up there tonight and save us from this disgraced DINO's shameless pandering. The only changes I want in this race right now are Lieberman out, Clark in.

[hippiechick]

6. Yuh, didn't Joe brag how closely he was aligned with * ...

a few months ago ?
now all of the sudden he's invoking the 2000 campaign and wailing that the country has gone too far to the right ?

:wtf:

Lieberman needs to just go away.


:hippie:

[JI7]

8. kerry could have done better

i hate it when he starts to lose his voice. he didn't do horrible or even bad. but he can do better. i thought edwards did the best on this one.

[SweetZombieJesus]

11. He stumbled a little, but on the whole he impressed me

Not to the extent that Dennis did (honestly, he did better than my guy did), but he did well.

Of course, they all looked like gods compared to that idiot Lieberman.

[Khephra]

10. Big loser, yes

I also don't think Graham or Kerry gained anything tonight, but they weren't losers. Edwards showed a bit more spunk. And Sharpton...well...he's always great at these debates.

Joe was the big loser, that's for sure.

[hippiechick]

18. Saw my first Bush/Cheney 2004 bumper sticker tonight ....

:hi: Kef !!

On 86th & Keystone.
All I could think was 'How friggin' stupid IS this person to not have a CLUE how far down the toilet this country has gone in 3 years ?'


Grr. Hamilton County. :mad:


:hippie:

[sham]

26. LOL!

I saw one of those Bush/Cheney 2004 stickers on a car in the parking lot at the Dean Meetup last week! Must have been a customer at the liquor store that was next door to the venue. :)

[Khephra]

27. Carmel...what else do you need to say?

The only city that's ever pulled my mother over because she was driving in a car with peeling paint.

Heya!

:hi:

[brook]

24. Have to agree...

Joe needs to just *go*. I felt that Gephardt, Kerry and Graham didn't score as well as Dean,Kucinich, Mosely-Brown and Al Sharpton. Found myself thinking (about the latter three )maybe they can't win - but I sure would like to see them involved in the next Administration.

All in all, I think it's appropriate to be very proud of the caliber of candidates (excepting Joe). I don't think I'm going to have any trouble getting behind the primary winner considering the field.

[TheYellowDog]

12. I agree,

but it was forty years ago bro, not 30.

[chaumont58]

13. One thing about the campaign that I have never understood

When Sharpton announced his candidacy, certain Dems did not like it all, and didn't hide that fact at all.
Sharpton brings spice to the debates, and some good sound bites. What is the drawback, unless it is somewhere in the Deep South?

[Atlant]

15. The people who wouldn't vote for Sharpton ain't gonna vote Dem anyway. NT

[spooky3]

14. Lieberman provides a contrast effect

making everyone else look better. Let him stay in as long as he wants.

[Atlant]

16. You mean as in "He's a sort of Bush stand-in"? (NT)

[gully]

17. Lieberman meant what he said, he's sincere....

unlike Bush.

[spooky3]

20. But even if he is sincere, that is not enough.

A lawyer who does not understand the establishment clause, and who doesn't understand that discrimination on the basis of religion is as much a civil rights issue as other types of discrimination, doesn't "get it". The list of problems with his positions is too long...

[IranianDemocrat]

19. LaRouche is a loser too!

He showed America that not only is he a nutcase, but his supporters are too.

[Ripley]

21. He is the only one perennially "booed" at these events.

Get on the clue train Joe!

[Bush_has_Parvo]

22. If Lieberman felt so strongly about all those disinfranchised

voters, than why didn't he FIGHT for them during the recount? Just like Bush, he tries to rewrite history. I think the disruptors threw most of the candidates off their game, except of course for Sharpton. There better be a place for him in the DNC after this is all over!

[dolstein]

25. In case you didn't notice, Gore/Lieberman did fight

Only they fought with legal briefs, not swords. That's the way it's supposed to be in a civilized society. Gore/Lieberman took Bush and Katherine Harris to the state supreme court twice, and won both times.

Personally, I wish Gore had called in the Teamsters to beat the crap out of the Republican staffers who were "rioting" in Miami. But I don't think that would have changed the output. The fascist five on the Supreme Court were always going to rule in Bush's favor, regardless of what Gore/Lieberman did.

[Bush_has_Parvo]

29. So is that why he gave in to the repukes with the bogus

military votes? He agreed with them, on national television, when he could have asked about all the veteran's votes that were being tossed out by Kruella Harris. No, Lieberman is either too clueless or too much of an insider for me.

[fabius]

35. Actually Greg Palast called Gore HQ

with the purge story sometime in early Dec. and they blew him off. So they could have fought harder. I think Gore doesn't like Palast because he had some unflattering reporting about Gore earlier. If they'd only listened we might not have the Chimperor today.

It was Gore's call, not Lieberman's.

[dolstein]

23. More proof that DU'ers see exactly what they want to see

Personally, I can't comment on tonight's debate -- I listened to it on the radio, and quickly lost interest. But I've seen some of the other debates and thought Joe has done a pretty good job of giving short, focused answers. But hey, that's me. The rest of DU is an entirely different story. And short of setting himself on fire or impaling himself on a sword, there's little Lieberman could do in a debate that would generate a positive response from the DU community. That's no going to change.

[brook]

28. Impale himself...

on something other than his self-interest might help. Sheesh! A leader he's not. Just because he's been holding office as a Democrat doesn't mean that his philosophy or his actions measure up to the standards some of us expect. Some of us don't much care to prolong the careers of DINOS.

[Forkboy]

30. DUers see what they want to see

and you're no exception.

[KoKo]

32. ROFL Dolstein..........short of setting himself on fire or impaling ......

:D

[sal]

31. he is a Vichey swine

sad and pathetic DLC/PNAC traitor

[Isere]

33. I thought he did well

as is being expressed on other threads. It pains me to hear supposed Democrats trumpeting their vow to withhold their vote from Lieberman if he is the nominee. I'm not going to vote for him in the primary, but he sure as hell will get my vote if he is the nominee. And to call him a "Vichy swine" is utterly preposterous.

[IndianaGreen]

34. The only loser tonight: Lyndon LaRouche

whose supporters made complete assholes out of themselves when they disrupted the Democratic debate on several occasions.