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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:27 AM
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Help Needed: Urgent
This petition obviously needs to get where it's going sooner than I thought. There are 7,210 signatures so far.

http://www.petitiononline.com/NWinIran/petition.html

To:  United Nations General Assembly

We, the undersigned, urge you, the members and officers of the United Nations General Assembly, to pass a resolution against and to use all of your diplomatic and political powers to prevent an attack on the sovereign nation of Iran by the United States of America and/or her allies.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

If you've signed, great! Thank you! But please pass it along.

also a few kicks would be appreciated.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:28 AM
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1. Let's see what the UN does on its own without such a petition
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:31 AM
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2. What's the point of that?
If they don't take a stand WWIII starts, that's quite a gamble just to see what happens.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:55 AM
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5. U.N. already understands its role in stopping aggression...
...against soverign nations:

Article 51 of the UN Charter recognizes the inherent right of self-defense. It states:

Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.


The only other legal basis for the use of force other than self-defense says:

Security Council directed or authorized use of force to restore or maintain international peace and security pursuant to its responsibilities under Chapter VII of the UN Charter.1. Article 42 of that chapter provides:

Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, it may take such action by air, sea, or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security. Such action may include demonstrations, blockade, and other operations by air, sea, or land forces of Members of the United Nations.

So, how does the ciculation of a petition for mass signatures motivate the U.N. Security Council and member countries around the world to force change of U.S. policy now?
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:03 AM
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7. This isn't for the security council
it's for the general assembly and it tells them that support exists for them to block US aggression. There are signatures on the petition from approx. 100 countries.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:17 AM
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8. Alright, I did it, but the world will be weeping soon enough
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:04 AM
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9. Probably so
But at least it's an effort, however small. Thanks!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:34 AM
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3. done...for what it's worth. nt
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:45 AM
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4. Hard to say what it's worth
but surely not trying is worth less.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:57 AM
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6. Signed
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