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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:29 PM
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Newsmax has hit the absolute bottom
when you thought that these morans couldn't go any lower, they publish a pro-smoking article

--smoking isn't addictive
--smoking is actually good for you

these people are absolute idiots!

http://newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/2/8/221328.shtml
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MostlyLurks Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:31 PM
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1. Not to mention the fact that it's ostensibly "pro-drug" n/t
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:40 PM
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8. but it's a "good" drug
just like Lush and his oxycontin

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MostlyLurks Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:37 PM
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22. Back when the OxyRush thing broke
I had a few acquaintances who listened to Rush, so I took the "I'm on your side" tactic by arguing that Oxycontin was a "white" drug, where Rush's screeds and tirades had clearly been directed at "black" drugs. I don't know if any of them understood what I was doing.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:32 PM
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2. Did they dig up the Marlboro Man to question him?
Or did they find one of those docs from the 50's who used to advertise that Chesterfield cigs were actually good for you?

And ANYONE who has tried to quit smoking knows better than to believe that cigs aren't addictive.

I quit 3 years ago and I STILL have an urge to smoke now and again.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:06 PM
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14. see
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:33 PM
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3. That's funny.
Say no to drugs and pick yourself up by the bootstraps, but when under stress it's ok to use drugs.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:34 PM
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4. I like how he makes the leap in "logic" that in WWII they had non-smokers
carry a pack to help out the smokers because they thought it was good for you. Seems to me that the reason they had them carry them is because when that physical addiction kicked in, the smoking soldier without his fix was less able to function.

What a fool.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:36 PM
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5. I'm a big fan of smoking
because, well, I smoke.

But this is some of the dumbest shit ever printed:

"The anti-smoking fanatics have convinced the world that tobacco is addictive. The experience of the millions of ex-smokers who quit proved how false that idea is. If it is really an addiction, most of those who have quit would not have succeeded and many of those who had quit would have been backsliders who finally gave in to the urge and went back to smoking."
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:39 PM
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6. Low? Did you notice the banner ad in the middle of the page?
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:46 PM
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10. I'm afraid to know their definition of a 'desirable' woman.
Pickles is the perfect woman. I think she's had a lobotomy.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:38 PM
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23. and a pack of pall mall's in her tube top.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:29 PM
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19. ....part of that sleazy advertisement
Secrets to Being a "Bar Star"-- How to Get Desirable Women to Pick YOU Up at a Bar (Imagine the look on the faces of all the "jerks" when the woman they've been buying drinks for all night chooses you over them... and you haven't spent one thin dime!)

I'd like to see photos of these future "Bar Stars" LOL!!
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mdhunter Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:40 PM
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7. HAHAHAHAHAHA (breath) HAHAHAHAHAH!
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 12:40 PM by mdhunter
"The anti-smoking fanatics have convinced the world that tobacco is addictive. The experience of the millions of ex-smokers who quit proved how false that idea is. If it is really an addiction, most of those who have quit would not have succeeded and many of those who had quit would have been backsliders who finally gave in to the urge and went back to smoking.

Don't believe that? Take a look at those addicted to hard drugs such as cocaine or heroin. Those are real addictions, and the record of cures for those addictions is dismal. Most addicts die as addicts."


Yeah, no one has ever tried to quit smoking and failed. Sure. It's not like that hasn't happened on the order of 247 times already this minute.

Also consider that while detoxing people for serious narcotics addiction no one would dare take them off cigarettes simultaneously, and that it seems likely that more people successfully quit cocaine, per user, than nicotine.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:46 PM
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11. put me on the tried and failed list...
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:44 PM
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9. Smoking = Perfect for conservatives!
It's their solution to SS...shorter lives = less time to collect SS. Brilliant.

Or perhaps, they figure the Rapture is gonna get them in the end.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:04 PM
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12. actually - for the underground science of it all....
nicotine actually has a beneficial role in Alzheimers (smokers ar eless likely to get it), Parkinsons (it ameliorate the rapid degradation), and Paranoid Schizophrenia (99.99% of untreated schizophrenics smoke as self-medication). This all has to do with the way nicotine interacts with dopamine receptors.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:05 PM
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13. The absurd has been mainstreamed
Who says Life doesn't imitate art?

Imperial Amerika becomes more like Woody Allen's "Sleeper" every day.

Think they are going to try and clone Poppy Augustus' nose?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:10 PM
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15. Tobacco isn't addictive
It's the nicotine, folks.

Back in the 1960s, Philip Morris and the other tobacco companies experimented with de-nicotinized cigarettes. They found out that people smoking cigarettes without nicotine could quit smoking rather easily. This was clearly bad news for the industry, and the trials were stopped.

To this day, if you see a "low tar and nicotine" brand, the nicotine content is never lower than 1.0 mg (which is the level achieved by the government smoking machine, levels being higher in actual smoking) per unit, which the cigarette manufacturers determined to be the absolute lower limit to keep people smoking in sufficient numbers as to maintain their corporate profit margins.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:11 PM
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16. And it makes you look cool.
Hey kids, try it at home!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:13 PM
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17. Don't forget the other tired argument -
"Think of all the migrant workers that would be put out of jobs!"

Yep, those sub-minimum wagers.

You know, if smoke breaks were eliminated, and people stopped smoking, I would bet productivity would go up more than just the fact of having less people doing more people's work.

And people might actually enjoy longer lives . . .
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:13 PM
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18. By all means then, light 'em up...
conservatives. Or, might I suggest, eh, heroin?

:evilgrin:

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:32 PM
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20. Next from Newsmax: "Bad rap for mercury in drinking water?"
I'm not sure when I'm awake or sleeping anymore.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:36 PM
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21. My grandmother died at the age of 49.
She didn't even get to live her life because she was a slave to a plant with an addictive substance. Why? Back when she started, they had athletes shill them shitty things and they were even advertised as a "relaxant" and a "digestive aid".

It happened when I was eight, but 28 years later, I've still never touched a smokeable product because of it.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:47 PM
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24. SMOKING CRACK IS GOOD FOR YOU TOO!!!
It must be, the "writers" at Newsmax do it!

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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:56 PM
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25. congrats
best post in the thread of many great posts!

:bounce:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:59 PM
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26. Well thank you!
:bounce:
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