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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:43 PM
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Did You Know - Entire Middle US at Risk from Earthquake Devastation
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 03:53 PM by Zynx
Prompted by the 4.2 that shook Arkansas earlier today:



Earthquakes cover a lot more real estate in the eastern US than in Cali. Red is damage done, yellow is strong enough to be felt.

Link:

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/

Link discussing massive past earthquakes (four or five inside of a month):

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eq_depot/usa/1811-1812.html#december_16

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If that ever cut loose with another one of those, let alone a series, it would destroy St. Louis and Memphis, damage a whole bunch of other cities and eliminate Kentucky Lake, thus drowning Paducah and Cairo and flooding the Mississippi, probably as far as New Orleans.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:45 PM
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1. 4.2 big deal.
I fart bigger than 4.2
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:50 PM
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5. Looks like God is trying to send a message to the red states
God sent TWO hurricanes to try and stop Louisiana from passing the anti-gay amendment and the "god-fearing" Christians ignored it. They got out their SCUBA gear to get to the voting machines.

Maybe, once they're devastated by an earthquake and Boston, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are left un-touched, they will understand that God doesn't hate fags. God hates bigots.

This is not meant to be an anti-southerner thing. It's just directed at the freepers of the red states who are ruining our country despite your best and noble efforts.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:52 PM
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8. You mean you are serious?
How sad is it when a person becomes what they ridicule? Do you really believe anything that you posted?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:56 PM
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11. No, I am being facetious
The Religious Reich claims God destroyed the WTC to punish us for liberals, feminists, and homosexuals.

They also say that God sent the tsunamis to punish Indonesia for being Muslim.

So, I am just turning their own "reasoning" against them.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:59 PM
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13. Well, thank God !
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 07:40 PM
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36. I hear ya. Their logic is ridiculous. I can hear them now trying to spin
this one. :eyes:
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:47 PM
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2. Yes - I did know about this. n/t
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:49 PM
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3. Read about the 1811 quake here
The eyewitness accounts are amazing.
http://asms.k12.ar.us/armem/richards/
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:49 PM
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4. Yep the New Madrid Fault
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:53 PM
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9. My cousin used to have info about this in his sales literature
He sold Earthquake Alarms.

There are two kinds of seismic waves. S waves and P waves. One of them travels faster than the other, but it's only the slower one that does damage.

Depending how far you are from the epicenter, an earthquake alarm might give you like 15 seconds warning.

That was back in like 1989, and his brochure said we were supposed to have a quake that would "ring churchbells in Boston" by sometime in the 1990s.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:50 PM
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6. Yes
You might get good input with this in Science Forum.

Here in Western NY State I have read that the Niagara Escarpment is a potential source for a major shift.

180
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:51 PM
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7. I remember watching a show on Sci Fi
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 03:51 PM by hippiechick
a couple years ago - around the Millenium - where they had the clairvoyants etc predicting geographic stuff; and one of them commented that an earthquake in this area would also shift/tear the plates and that essentially Lakes Michigan & Erie would 'let go' and pretty much turn Indiana into a swamp.

As much as it floods around here just from the extreme rainfalls we've had in the past year, I can see that it's time to either start building my Ark, or move elsewhere.


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:59 PM
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14. That's a safe "prediction" to make
1) It's within the realm of the possible (I think) and possibly likely.

2) They have a huge timeframe in which to work. Even if it doesn't happen in their lifetime, people might forget the prediction was ever made, or assume it will happen "any time now." And "any time now" can be extended indeffinitely.

The best way is to make likely earthquake predictions all over the place and cover as many bets as you can. Then that increases the chance of a "correct prediction."
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:17 PM
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20. Hey, I didn't say it was 'the truth' ...
just that living here in Indiana, and seeing how easily we flood just from rain ... and that we ARE in a quake zone ... well, it wouldn't take much for a huge natural disaster to happen.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:31 PM
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23. Oh, I know. I wasn't faulting you. (Faulting... heh heh)
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:43 PM
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39. Faulting ... rumble rumble ...
:hi:
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:54 PM
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10. Yup....
After moving to Indiana for a couple years, I actually heard a decent amount about it... seems like everywhere is at risk for something, you just have to pick which something...
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:57 PM
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12. Live near Chicago and New Madrid Fault quake woke me up last year
In fact, there is a chance that a big one will liquify the Chicago coastline and all the tall buildings will fall into the lake.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:00 PM
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16. I think I read somewhere that winter weather kills more people each year
in Massachusetts than the Los Angeles earthquake did.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:00 PM
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15. I have firsthand knowledge of this. Back in 94's Northridge quake, the
insurance rep for State Farm who came to our home said they had an entire crew of freshly trained earthquake damage assessors from all over the country helping out.

They had been recently trained because the insurance companies were expecting a huge quake in the midwest along the fault you show in your post.

It's been 11 years now, and they are still expecting that quake.

I told my midwest family to get earthquake insurance, something they wouldn't have even considered before.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:03 PM
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18. Let's experiment. See if this earthquake Urban Legend is true
The myth is that in the days before an earthquake, there is a marked increase in the number of missing animals reported.

Call your local dogcatcher and ask if you can see their numbers for the last three years or so.

See if there is a "spike" in missing animal reports that isn't repeated seasonally every year.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:11 PM
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19. Don't tell me about myths. I have lived the last 11 years with a damaged
knee and recurring vertigo. Everything I owned that could break, broke. Gone.

I haven't danced in 11 years.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:30 PM
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22. You have my sympathy, but what does that have to do with missing pets?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:47 PM
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26. Your original post sounded skeptical re earthquakes.
Maybe I read too much cynicism into your post.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 06:34 PM
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35. Oh, ya think?
Sorry, that was sarcasm, not cynicism.

Just giving you a hard time now. No harm meant :P
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:01 PM
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17. I'm waiting for the Yellowstone super volcano
that one should take out most of north America
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:26 PM
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21. I remember in the early 90's in Memphis,
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 04:29 PM by slutticus
There was a prediction of a large earthquake sometime around December 3rd (I can't remember what year). But I remember seeing billboards for Earthquake Insurance and stuff like that. People were very concerned. Even thought the earthquake never happened...it will eventually.

If it strikes anywhere near memphis....The city of Memphis will be destroyed.

Three of the strongest earthquakes in North America have occurred on the New Madrid fault. Can you imagine what an 8.0 would do in this part of the country?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:47 PM
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24. Do you all actually FEEL 4.2s??
We don't notice them up here unless they're over 6.0. :)
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:47 PM
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25. Well, this is sooo cool that the San Francisco Bay area is not even on
the map!!!! Only L.A. is there! We in northern California are safe now!!?? Too way cool. The cows will miss their foot-massages, though.

Yahoozie! I don't have to listen to folks from other areas of the country say, "Wow, how can you live there with all those earthquakes?" Now I can just say, "We don't have 'em in Northern California!"

I live there where Santa Rosa touches the orange line.


Eathquake fault map, San Francisco Bay area:


1906 San Francisco Earthquake, downtown San Francisco:


City Hall my town, 60 miles north of San Francisco, 1906 S.F. earthquake:


My town, Santa Rosa, north of San Francisco 1965:


1989 Loma Prieta, San Francisco Bay area:




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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 04:59 PM
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27. Alaska must not have earthquakes either, according to the map
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:15 PM
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29. Nope. No earthquakes in Alaska. Yer safe. The map says.
J. C. Penny Building, Anchorage, Alaska, 1964 Alaska Earthquake.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:21 PM
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30. Are you another Alaskan, Trouble?
I live about a mile from the oddly named "Earthquake Park." I don't know where they came up with that one. /sarcasm off
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:30 PM
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32. Nope. Northern California, an hour no. of San Francisco....
Last fall, we had a visitor from a mid-west state. We went to the coast for lunch, and it was an unusually warm day on the coast. We said to one another, "Wow, this feels like earthquake weather..." It took us awhile to convince our visitor that we were kidding! Hmmm... were we?

Every day is 'earthquake weather'!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:47 PM
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34. I used to live north of SF in Bolinas...
Yes, every day is earthquake weather here, too. I like that.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:16 PM
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37. Ummm, you realize that map is just comparing two quakes, yes?
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 09:18 PM by Zynx
The two quakes were picked because they were about the same magnitude and the difference in area of effect is bizarre.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:11 PM
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28. i've never found it useful...
...to worry about what can't be helped.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:24 PM
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31. I think you are right. Wherever we live, we live with
a variety of threats, whether it is earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, floods, wildfires, asteroids, etc.

"Worrying" is a waste. Ordinary sensible preparations are smart.

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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 05:34 PM
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33. How about Yellowstone exploding...
I thought I read somewhere about how there pretty much was a huge volcano under about where yellowstone park is and if that ever exploded it would pretty much fuck over most of that part of the US too.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 09:37 PM
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38. When I was 12...
here in Cincy, we had a tremor and I got in trouble because my mom thought my friends and I were jumping on stuff in the basement.
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