Beware: Aaron Brown tonight is going to try blame the left for Gannon

[Sliverofhope]

Quote Aaron Brown:

"We'll look into this fuss over the so-called reporter for the Talon "News" service who resigned yesterday from covering the White House. Actually, almost every word in that sentence could have been in quotes. He wasn't, by our definition, a real reporter. Talon isn't a real news service but the story to my mind is actually about something else. So, while this story has kicked around for 24 hours we'll take a different look at it tonight by asking if left wing blogs went too far in "outing" the guy simply because they disagreed with his politics."

Be ready.

[NewJeffCT]

1. well, that is how they're playing it so far

no mention that Talon was in business for all of 4 days when they got their White House press pass... no mention of the funding behind GOP USA...

[Hissyspit]

3. It's on at 10 p.m. EST?

[Auntie Bush]

30. I'm sad...I like Aaron Brown.

I'm gonna be mad if he turns out to be another fuckert.
Gannan = Guckert = fuckert = propagandist = media whore = fuckert.
Please tell me Aaron isn't a fuckert!

Just watched...He's not.

[leesa]

49. He's been a Bush Whore since the beginning.

[Rhiannon12866]

63. No, he's not.

I watch him most nights because I think he's even handed and just reports the facts. There are times I've even suspected he is a closet liberal. After seeing how he handled this story, I'm even more convinced. He had two liberal guests give their take on this story. His preamble may have echoed the corporate line, but he let them have their say, without interruption, without challenge and with no token RW guest there for "balance" or to have the "last word," a favorite tactic of this media game. Watch the segment and then make up your mind.:shrug:

Here's the clip:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/02/10.html#a1562

[porkrind]

52. He is and always was.

You must be way more centrist than me, because I can't stand the sight of his smarmy CNN face.

[TrustingDog]

70. he's ALWAYS been just another fuckert. He's just Sneakier, is all.

[Eloriel]

75. And rhymes with Russert

which somehow seems appropriate too.

[Pirate Smile]

2. Unbelievable. Note to Aaron - look at the White House - how did he get

in there? No wonder we are in such trouble. So many in the media are complete idiots.

[warrior1]

5. I'm living in a bazaro world

.

[i miss america]

28. Howdy neighbor!

:hi: I'm living there too. :wtf:

[SpiralHawk]

8. Oh yes, and be sure to ask about the Plame outing

Some dare call it treason.

you really should ask about the treason.

[DU9598]

4. Do they have no shame?

Apparently no.

What a sad state of democracy and freedom we face in our nation.

[blueblitzkrieg]

6. F you Aaron Brown nt

[Walt Starr]

7. The Corporate News NEtwork has gone into fullout whore mode

to protect a fellow whore.

[MSgt213]

10. To protect a fake whore. He's not a real MSM whore.

These guys don't even give a shit about their own profession.

[NewJeffCT]

13. and Brown is usually better than most

I'm disappointed.

[sally343434]

22. He was always a whore

You should have seen him before he made the "big time," when he was a news anchor for local news at KING TV in Seattle. Even then, he was a complete whore, mugging for the camera, editorializing the news with his emotions and banter with whatever news bimbo accompanied him on the show.

He somewhat reminded me of Ted Knight.

[RBHam]

9. Reframing the issue...

I ssupect that Aaron Brown-Noser is himself an Operation Mockingbird operative.

Ever wonder why he was maneuvered in to the CNN Prime Time anchor slot just in time for 9-11???

Eh?

Remember him and Paula ZXahn after 9-11, with the smoking remains of the WTC behind them in the background? With Aaron Brown's oddly disturbing smile seeming to say, "All right! I made the big time now! Whoo hoo!"

Also realize this fact. The Pentagon's SSB basically vets every story that CNN runs. They have an office right in the newsroom.

CNN is truly much more dangerous as a Bush Propaganda Outlet than Fox is. At least with Fox they're upfront with their bias...

At CNN they bend over backwards to attempt and disguise their right wing bias.

Aaron "9-11 Made My Career" Brown and Paula "Eva" Zahn are as slimy as they come.

[Stephanie]

16. What is SSB? How do you know they have an office in the newsroom?

Is there any reference for that info?

[RBHam]

24. SSB - Special services Branch...

As to the office in the newsroom - that's just a way of saying that CNN has been ther Pentagon's private propaganda networtk since Gulf War I. Malloy has talked about this. He personally found out that this was so...

Here's some info...

Mainstream Media is Pentagon's Propaganda Arm
http://www.infowars.com/articles/military/psy-ops_meets_pr.htm

US networks agree to serve as Pentagon propaganda tool in Iraq
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/med-a15.shtml

CNN tells reporters: No propaganda, except American
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/nov2001/cnn-n06.shtml

Pentagon Propaganda Plan Is Undemocratic, Possibly Illegal
http://www.zmag.org/content/TerrorWar/pentagon_propaganda.cfm

PR Meets Psy-Ops in War on Terror
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-warinfo1dec01,0,321180.story?coll=la-home-headlines

HELL! There's so much more...
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=cnn+pentagon+propaganda&spell=1

[Stephanie]

27. Thanks!

[KharmaTrain]

50. Case In Point...David Letterman

Last year, Letterman ran a bit of "dry video" from a Bunnypants rally with a little kid...the son of some Bushbot, getting more antsy as his assholiness babbled. It got funnier as it went along...and all very real.

Not in CNNservative land. The next day, Mrs. Daryn Limbaugh showed the video and then claimed that the video was doctored and that this was on based on "a White House" source. When Letterman called them on it...she and another newsbabe played dumb and stupid. Letterman wasn't fooled and alluded to the fact the White House was directing CNNservative's response.

Mr. Ham is touching on the third rail of beltway journalism. These assholes are bought and compromised and the only way for them to go is to keep lying and enabling...or lose their access, power and visibility.

I'd strongly suggest you read the links he provided as they go into some very good detail into the Psy-Ops operation that's been going on at CNNservative since Turner sold it. This regime knows it is watched internationally...and feels they need to control it as a counter to Al Jezeera and Al Arabiya internationally and manipulate the spin on issues domestically. Mr. Ham is correct...CNNservative is far more damaging than Faux.

I used to like Brown ages ago on ABC World News Now. I hoped he was going to take the role Bernie Shaw did when he came to the network...but instead has had the spine of jello.

I know he scans this board and he'll actually answer a well written email...but don't expect anything but a smarmy reponse from him. But I guess that's better than nothing.

Cheers!

[LibertyorDeath]

46. Always in awe of the acumen of upper echelon of the military

"Pentagon officials say Myers is worried that U.S. efforts in Iraq and in the broader campaign against terrorism could suffer if world audiences begin to question the honesty of statements from U.S. commanders and spokespeople." :eyes:

http://www.infowars.com/articles/military/psy-ops_meets_pr.htm

[biscotti]

26. Indeed I remember Aaron that morning

I got a very strange feeling. I thought hmmm wonder what this guy knows and who put him in at that critical moment. I think he said at he time he had just moved to New York. I must admit, I have been skeptical of the whole setup from the moment the first plan hit.And, everything that has transpired.

[Sterling]

44. Yes they rolled him out with the new product..

on 9-11.

[Lex]

11. I'm sure Aaron will be sure to ask

how did this guy "not a real reporter" (according to Aaron):

-- get secret documents on the Agent Plame?

-- break the Rathergate memo story?

Who is backing him? Who's feeding him stories and documents? Who's clearing him and giving him credentials to be in the White House Press Pool?

These are two things that even my little pea brain might want to investigate further, instead casting stones at liberal bloggers.

[Stephanie]

17. right to the point

these are the key issues

[tom_paine]

19. Investigations are for Free Nations, not Imperial Amerika

It is nice to dream of a free society, instead of this pale shadow we have left in the twilight.

Yes, in canada, Ireland and perhaps a few other nations in the Free World, such questions might be asked.

Be we do not live in the Free World, not anymore.

[GetTheRightVote]

12. The abuse of this adminstration knows no shame

:kick:

[Cha]

14. Then why did guck

resign? Couldn't take the heat?

[two gun sid]

15. You know what?

I don't care what Brown or any other MSM fuck thinks about bloggers and Gannon.
Where the fuck were they when Scaife and his "newspaper" were making up stories about Clinton? Why don't they speak out about Rove and how he perverts democracy. Why in the fuck aren't they asking about the results from the Iraqi election. North Korea claims they have nukes and all I see on CNN is Charles and Camilla.
I am tired of all the bullshit the MSM is trying to shove down my throat. I am more interested in SS, invading Iran, homeless vets, etc. then Jacko and how he gets off.


Fuck those swine.

[caligirl]

18. I posted on another thread about the Americablog guy who will talk

about this story with Brown.

[Bluebear]

20. "This fuss".......seriously, screw off

[Carni]

21. Hey Aaron FUCK YOU

Funny...these press whores weren't so sympathetic when Jason Blair did a little copying and pasting.

But now a weird guy, of dubious background, with no credentials,
who posed half nude on his personal page on AOL, who had carte blanche access to WH press conferences...is a *victim* because *after all* he wasn't actually a reporter?

Since when does the MSM think kindly of bloggers that directly threaten their reason to be paid too much?

[tsuki]

23. The problem is...journalism has become the story. I once read

that when a journalist became the "story," his credibility and effectiveness were at an end. (I seem to think this might have been Walter Cronkite, but maybe not.)

The Gannon story, with Armstrong, Maggie Gallagher and Mike McManus and scores of others suspected has made journalism the "story." Pundits such as Novak, Coulter, Hannity and Loofah have also made journalism the "story."

For me, at least, I do not have to agree with a story. I like Lou Dobbs and agree, and sometimes disagree, with his presentation of the facts. It is the facts that I disagree with.

"Journalists" as stars, and as a part of the story, have defamed journalism. That is what newsmen should be looking at.

It is not the left wing blogs and discussion forums that have gone too far. It is the newsmen that have not gone far enough to salvage the reputation of their profession.

[Zero Division]

25. Apparently "go too far" means "did a better job than we could have"

at CNN. So we've got unsubstantiated claims of threats to his family by Guckert/Gannon and....what? That's it!?

Poor JD, he never expected to get the kind of attention a REAL reporter gets.

[goodboy]

29. americablog guy FUCKIN' ROCKED AARON!!!!!!

[Walt Starr]

31. What did he say?

My wife won't let me watch any more news today.

[goodboy]

33. he made the gannon/plame connection, and "how the hell did he get

a pass" and aaron did his best to spin it as "bloggers invading the guys life" and AmBlog guy said, that's the biggest load of hogwash I've ever heard...This whitehouse knows everyone who's in the pool and knows everything about them, and they put him there...he mentioned plame 3 times./...

[mountainvue]

34. He straight up said it was a White House set up,

that they knew everyone who came and went from the press conferences and that Capital Hill denied the guy's request for creds because he wasn't with a legit news organization and he threw in Plame to boot! It was beautiful. Brown had NO comeback after that. This could get good. It was the most hopeful news segment I have seen in a looong time. Yeah baby!

[mountainvue]

32. That guy hit it out of the park! n/t

[RBHam]

36. Aaron was sputtering!

"we'll just leave that there for now..."

dickwad...

[goodboy]

40. when he said "hogwash" did any of you hear Aaron mutter something

in the background?

[RBHam]

42. yep, brown said something like..."oh..??"

as if he was being personally slapped down...

and he was...

[goodboy]

51. damn right he was...(nt)

[Geek_Girl]

35. I thought Aaron Did good

He had someone from Salon and John Aravosis the writer of America Blog. He let them both get out our side and played a little bit of devil's advocate. It's nice to see a news show that at least lets the bloggers speak about what they're blogging.

[mountainvue]

37. We neeed that guy from America blog on more often.

He was good.

[Geek_Girl]

43. Yeah he did a good job

It's a shame that other news shows don't have the bloggers on to tell their side. That's why I'm not calling Brown a douche bag at least he let the guy on his show.

[in_cog_ni_to]

38. I have a question.

Why wouldn't all the WH press corp be pissed as hell about Gannon? Here they have spent YEARS covering the WH and this no name, non-journalist gets a WH pass and is called on time after time to ask a friggin' questions. WHY???? aren't they going after him and the WH on this story? Don't any of them have any pride left?

[Generator]

41. Apparently they have no pride no conscience no nothing but a

strong desire to never ever rock the boat. I guess.

Good point though-I would have been scrounging dirt on him myself if I had to sit next to his inane ridiculous questions. Oh-but he has high connections, doesn't he? They know so much more than they tell US the peons who they control with their pathetic "news."

[Geek_Girl]

47. Their corporate masters won't let them

and the WH has bullied the news organizations into submission. Why do you think Brokaw, Rather, Kronkite, Moyer and these guys are so pissed off at the current state of the Free Press.

[Zebulon]

54. Re: and the WH has bullied the news organizations into submission.

Yes, you nailed it. A bunch of timid lapdogs.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

39. I actually thought it went very well

at least Aaron doesn't interrupt and bury the other guys opinions in his own prattle. They were able to get the facts of the story out there (minus the gay prostitute stuff), and he spent quite a while on it.

[Sparkle]

45. I'm not surprised. After seeing Blitzer's performance this afternoon.

That was the lamest interview I have ever seen.

[Hissyspit]

48. My Email to Ameriblog:

JOHN -
Thank you, thank you, thank you for not letting Aaron Brown get away with his mainstream media shit. It was only a few seconds, but it was on CNN!

[Synnical]

53. Ewww - I just saw this at 11:17 PM

And you made turn on CNN! YUCK!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

55. Well, Gannon isn't really a "journalist". He's a propagandist like you...

Aaron!

:puke:

[ultraist]

56. The Ameriblog guy and the Salon guy did very well!

It was said, WHITEHOUSE connections, xxx websites, propaganda, Plame. Aaron Brown looked a little taken a back but at least he let them speak.

This was really amazing when you think about it. Bloggers, online journalists, were spotlighted on MSM for breaking a story that the MSM failed on. If there were not thousands upon thousands of bloggers, this never would have been.

This really helps to legitimize blogs and disempower MSM somewhat. It's fucking fantastic to see the power of the people find a new vehicle and make gains.

[mitchum]

57. Susie says it best..."Fuck you, you four-eyed fuck!"

However, Brown's honor among whores is touching in a way

[rocktivity]

58. The "fuss" over Gannon? What would Brown call the Holocaust--a prank?

A fake reporter for a four-day-old fake news service gets into the Bush White House with a fake name which the press secretary and President Mightymouse use regularly, and Brown calls the reaction to it "fuss?" Even without Gannon's gay escort and Plame links, it's still an egregious breach of White House security.

If Gannon's getting a press pass was an accident, somebody needs to be fired; if it wasn't, somebody needs to be investigated. And if this is how well White House security works, I will no longer wonder why Bush did so much jet-setting right after 9/11.

Oh, and by the way, Aaron, if CNN were still in the business of being fair and balanced, there would be no such thing as liberal bloggers!

:headbang:
rocknation

[dansolo]

59. He admits the guy is not a real reporter

Then why isn't he questioning how the guy got press credentials to the Wite House press briefings? Shouldn't that be the real issue, Mr. Brown?

[Rhiannon12866]

60. Does anyone here want to see the segment? Here's the clip!

I don't know what everyone's complaining about! I thought that this was a historic night in the mainstream media for liberals everywhere! Two liberals were brought on to discuss this case, which has been getting little coverage on the major news networks (except, of course, for Keith Olbermann), and, what coverage there has been, calls this RW blogger "a journalist," and says that he "was attacked," and little more.:shrug:

The major coverage was Wolf Blitzer's shameful interview with the porn czar, himself, who was allowed to tell his heart wrenching story, unchallenged, as if we are supposed to just take his word that everything he said was the absolute truth.:grr:

On "Newsnight," two liberals were allowed to speak, uninterrupted, after a short corporate-approved preamble by Aaron Brown. After that, he just let them have their say. He did not challenge them, argue with their facts, or present another "side" of their story. On most mainstream shows, the liberal would have been "balanced" by a RW challenger, who would have presented conflicting "facts" and would have been allowed the last word, as if that was the real story. Not here.:wow:

I always suspected that Aaron Brown was a closet liberal, ever since when, ages ago, he forced Al Franken to actually come out and call George Bush* "a liar," on this show. And this was long before Air America. I think that this was a win for us!:kick:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/02/10.html#a1562

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

61. Thanks for the link.

"Hogwash." :hurts:

[Rhiannon12866]

62. You're welcome. I thought it was important to set the record straight.

:hi:

[Riding this Donkey]

64. Great! Thanks!!! You set the record straight!

[Rhiannon12866]

66. Thank you! I feel like posting it as a reply to almost every post

On this thread. I had seen this before I even happened on this thread, and so I was a little shocked. I thought that this presentation of the story, letting two liberal guests have their say, was a real win for us. And on CNN, no less!
:wow:

And I admit to getting more than a little annoyed at everyone who condemned Aaron Brown, and the way that he was going to handle this, a full half hour before the show even started!:grr:

Yes, sometimes the way he phrases things is a little quaint, but I watch this show, regularly, and I've long suspected that Aaron Brown is a closet liberal. Now I'm even more convinced.:-)

Thanks for watching it and for the positive feedback.:hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

65. And I agree that we should all e-mail the show

We certainly do need to let them know what we think of how they handled this story.

We need to check off "positive" on the form, because they are always pleased to get positive feedback. They are used to getting negative rants from RW loudmouths, condemning the "liberal media," so they'll like getting positive comments, for a change.

We have to give them positive feedback, or they'll think that we're objecting to the two "left wing nut job" guests who they let have their say, without challenge or interruption, and without a RW guest, there for "balance."

We have to tell them that we like the way that the this story was presented, just letting the facts, and their guests, speak for themselves. And we have to tell them that we'd like to see more of this kind of thing, making it more likely that they'll give more time to liberal guests, in the future.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?13

on edit: if anyone feels compelled to send negative feedback to CNN, why not rip Wolf Blitzer a new one, condemning his "interview" with the porn czar, himself, letting him tell his heartbreaking tale, without challenge, taking his word that everything he said was true!:grr:

[leftchick]

67. I wonder if Aaron got his "journalism" certificate

at the same place as gannon? They certainly seem to share the same amount of ineptitude.

[Rhiannon12866]

68. How is it "ineptitude" to give liberals a forum?

We're always complaining that liberal views aren't adequately represented on cable news. This show had two of them, who gave their views without being interrupted and with no RW rebuttal. Here's the clip of what actually aired.:shrug:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/02/10.html#a1562

[Shopaholic]

69. Brown had been signed by CNN was was set to take over as their

"signature" anchor in 2001. He was already working at CNN but the show was still in its "pre-production" phase when 9/11 went down. They threw him on the air. At least that's always been the official story.

I didn't see the segment so thanks for the link. I think that it is important to note that at least they had some liberal bloggers on the show to somehow make up for the mess Whore Blitzer did of this whole story.

The thing here to remember is that the MSM are feeling very threatened by the power of internet sites and the blogosphere and for good reason. Hey--guys--do your damn jobs and we wouldn't have to do it for you.

[Rhiannon12866]

71. I saw Aaron Brown's reports on 9/11

He just happened to be in the right place at the right time, with a perfect high-rise view of the burning twin towers, but from a safe vantage point. The reports he gave that day gave a boost, both to CNN and to Aaron Brown and will, no doubt, be among those that will be best remembered from that horrible day.:-(

I also caught part of the Blitzer interview with the porn czar, himself, and it was a pitiful excuse for journalism, no questions, no challenge, just the heart wrenching story from James Dale Guckert, whose real name was not even mentioned. It made me sick.
:puke:

Your take that this segment may have been handled this way to counter that one is an excellent point, and one I hadn't thought of. I thought of this report as a win for us, especially since we had the last word.
:kick:

I know that the MSM is very threatened by the the power of the internet and how the truth can be disseminated by the click of a mouse. We no longer are dependent on them to tell us what's going on in the world or to interpret it for us.:shrug:

I don't know if you caught any of my previous posts on this thread, but I ran across this condemnation of Aaron Brown's handling of this story, long after I had seen the segment and was shocked. Many posts were made long before the show even aired, but the same comments were made long afterwards, indicating that those who posted had never seen the show.:shrug:

This was my attempt to set the record straight. The MSM, in this case, gave liberals a national forum. And Aaron Brown did his job as we would like the Wolf Blitzers of the world to do theirs. We need to encourage them by letting them know that we're watching and would like to see more of the same. They do cave to points of view, but, more so, to ratings.
:evilgrin:

on edit: misspelled porn czar's last name

[FreedomAngel82]

76. And the great thing about the internet

Is that they can't control it like they can the media here. Some blogs could be from out of the country for all they know. :) So it's nice to have the internet in times like these. Also on Aaron Brown and 9/11 I wonder if he was really there by "concidence." Know what I mean? :shrug:

[Rhiannon12866]

77. You mean that you think he was "planted" there to have a bird's eye view

Of the planes hitting the WTC?! I'll believe that when I start believing that no Jews showed up for work in the towers on that fateful morning, as was reported in the Arab press. But, it's an interesting conspiracy theory. I wish I could remember exactly why he was where he was, in the first place. The original reason kind of got lost in the blur of that day.:tinfoilhat:

As for the internet, that and the foreign press are the only places that we can find the truth, these days. That's why it's nice when the mainstream media makes an effort to compete, which is what happened with this story, on "Newsnight." Maybe they're realizing that they're going to have to go after the truth, or lose a substantial portion of their viewership. Nice pipe dream. *sigh*:shrug:

[rocktivity]

79. The blogger was there to defend his HONOR, not his story

That's what prevents me from being more appreciative.

To their credit, the blogger and the Salon reporter brushed aside the "personal life" angle and kept the emphasis on the irregularities involved. And, LOL, I didn't know that Gannon had written an article inviting "the liberals" to "bring it on!"

:headbang:
rocknation

[Rhiannon12866]

80. Yes, I did notice that. To their credit, they kept their comments quite

Professional, discussing all the irregular and unacceptable things he had done while covering the White House. That was plenty, IMO, but that showed good judgment on both their parts. This guaranteed that they could tell the facts, uninterrupted, and are much more likely to be asked back or called as guests on another show.:-)

At no time did they degenerate into the personal comments, like we have made on DU, LOL! If they had done that, I can just imagine the repercussions!!! Cut mikes and cue commercial! Yikes!:D

I did hear that he'd penned the "bring it on!" article, probably from Keith Olbermann, who seems to be the only other anchor who is unafraid to report the facts of this case. That's the reason I was impressed with the coverage that "Newsnight" gave it, especially after seeing part of the "interview," with Guckert, himself, on Wolf Blitzer. He was just allowed to tell his heart wrenching story of how he and his "family" had been persecuted. At no time did Blitzer challenge him or bring up the facts, as we know them. It was "journalism" at its worst, except for Guckert's performance at the press briefings.
:puke:

[spanone]

72. Gannon is the victim of homophobic overzealous left wingers?

Or people willing to do anything to win at politics even outting a gay.

[Shopaholic]

73. Gannon is not a victim

he got what he deserved and he received it at the hands of on-line journos and bloggers who did the job that our media should have been doing. Why in hell did the corporate-owned media sit there in that white house press room with this guy and never complain? I would have been outraged that I had to share the air with a partisan plant like Gannon. And the fact that these corporate-owned whores never uttered a single protest should tell you all you need to know about how sorry the state of our current mainstream media truly is.

The MSM are screaming because they are afraid of the power of the internet and wondering which one of them is going to go down next.

[ck4829]

74. A fake news service had the same privileges as any real news service?

Give me a Break!

[Rhiannon12866]

78. Not a fake news service, but a right-wing internet blog

This was not a legitimate news service, at all. Bona fide news reporters, for actual news publications, are losing their access to the daily White House Press briefings if they don't have substantial enough of a readership. This guy sure didn't have one.:-(

Plus, he gained access to the White House, where security is the tightest, even though his "press credentials" were rejected by Congress and he used a fake name. They had to have known he was doing so, since they would have needed his Social Security number to issue a White House day pass, which he was granted. The strong implication, corroborated by the ridiculously Bush*-friendly questions he asked and the inordinate number of times he was called on, is that he was a plant. With ties to the internet gay porn industry. That's the reason this story keeps gaining momentum, with each new revelation, each more incredible than the last.:shrug: