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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:23 AM
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Okay.. I accept the fact that Bush has the "job" for 4 more years, BUT
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 02:24 AM by SoCalDem
is there ANY way we can at least get him to DO the job?? The man is a compulsive campaigner.. Someone needs to stage an intervention or something..

He asked for the job... he wanted it so badly he may have even stolen it, and yet he just wants to continue to campaign before handpicked swooning fans..

If he went around randomly and just talked to people to see what was troubling them, and what he could do to help, I wouldn't mind that much, but what he is doing is dangerous.

He needs to be in DC.. that's where his job is.. Did he think he was hired as a traveling salesman?.. Someone please tell him he's not "on commission".. We expect him to BE the president, and to actually spend some time in his office working and talking to other world leaders..

There are things going on around the world that are a little bit more important than meandering around the country,trying to force a reluctant populace to embrace poverty in their old age and do it with a smile.

He fancies himself a "delegator", but enough's enough. He has mostly UNELECTED people running the show in DC as the whole place is on autopilot.. and he's "some bad pilot"..

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:25 AM
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1. The worst part is, he has lowered expectations so much
that when he half-asses his job and just barely does the very least you should expect a President to do, he is applauded.
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kaho Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:36 AM
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2. ..well I don't know about that....
..."Ask not" said JFK...you know the rest.

Don't think JFK's rhetoric lowered expectations, although it was a hellave lot blunter that Dubya's.

Imagine if the "ask not" speech had been his!

Reluctantly I have to concede that the Iraq elections, Afghanistan elections and the Palestinian/Israeli detente are quite remarkable triumphs.

Wish to God they were Clintons!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:44 AM
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3. Not remarkable..just phony
Afghanistan is no better off than before.. The taliban are actually back to some degree. (they are biding their time).. Karzai (the oil buddy) is little more than Mayor of Kabul (thanks to US hired gunslingers who protect him 24/7).. the people still live in squalor.. Sure.. they trot out a few every now and then for a photo op ..with the obligatory "school girl with her shiny new yellow pencils" woo hoo.. BFD

Iraq is on the verge of becoming Iran-west, complete with sharia law and the accompanying torture of women and girls.. As fast as we "train" police there, they get dragged off buses and beheaded or blown up as they enter their "workplace".. The elections were so successful that even the candidates were too afraid to even tell people they were running..

The Palestinians hate us..the Israelis need us.. We will eventually make one friend and one enemy in any deal they agree to. Israel will never be able to give the Palestinians what they really want (Israel gone)... and the Palestinians will never give the Israelis what they want.. (Palestinians gone)..

It's an old fashioned stand-off. We can come up with some gobbledygook "solution" but unless we are willing to commit troops and money nothing will come of it.. and if we DO make that commitment, the minute we are looking the other way, they will be at each others' throats again..

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kaho Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:47 AM
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5. ...time will tell....
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:53 AM
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6. Ok... I gotta ask... what the hell are you talking about
Who mentioned JFK?

Moreover, here's the thing about Palastine/Israel. Afafat is dead. Unless Bush killed Arafat, then he has nothing to do with anything that is going on there.

And, Iraq and Afganistan.

Remember when Clinton bombed a few buildings in Iraq with UN approval? The conservatives went crazy.

And, when we took action against Afganistan in 1998, conservatives went crazy. They said that the Taliban should be our natural ally!

Bush doesn't give a shit about the people of Iraq or Afganistan, and neither does a single Republican or conservative. The wars were never about liberation, and were never about spreading democracy.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:35 AM
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8. "remarkable triumph"??? ROTFL!!!!
When a nation invades and occupies America, when foreign troops break down your home's door, steal your belongings, tie you up ^ place a bag over your head, scream and yell at your wife and children, drag you away and torture you, then force an "election" on America while under occupation of a foreign army under martial law during a raging war, I hope you will "concede" it a "remarkable triumph".
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:46 AM
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4. HAHA! "White House Press CORPSE!"
I say we roast Gannon until he's charcoal.

Isn't that 'daughter of Jabba-da-Hut' also a Freeper? :D

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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:08 AM
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7. but that -is- the con artist game

His job is to keep on marketing crap to suckers. He knows it. He knows it's the only thing he's good at. The trick to that game is to recognize the marks' resentments and play to them, to distract them.

He is a travelling salesman. He and his people are going to the exploit The People until there's nothing left to take or no emotional vulnerability to tap into with swing voters. They're Just Stupid That Way.

And no, there is no actual problem these people have ever solved or intend to ever solve. Well, they do fire people...and that's about as far as it goes.

The good news is that the Great American reservoir of resentments and foolish desires is greatly tapped out. But enough for another year, maybe two, remains.

It's not about people like us-we just blow their scams too often, that's why they hate us (and unresolved toilet training issues on their part, but that's for another post). It's their own sort that they want to press dry. Without Democrats to fix up things and keep the economy running and society progressing, their parasitism would yield far less- so they're dependent on folks of our kind, really, to keep the roof from caving in. It's the people who 'tithe' to televangelists, who accept corruption by their state and local governments because they're run by the kind of people who are 'Christian' rather than 'godless', who believe America Can Do No Wrong...every prototypical kind of American sucker is who they size up and sidle up to and tempt with bait- and suck dry. There's a lot of money in Lost Causes (aka The Willis Carto Principle).

For folks like us these games are all a gigantic waste of our time, mostly, and too much energy. And, of course, con games always end up breaking too much fragile stuff.

But that's how the game plays, and the horrid sort of people tend to walk off with a bunch of loot- not that that prevents them from meeting bad ends, but it's always ugly to watch.
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kaho Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:48 AM
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14. ...very articulate posting...
...but jaundiced cynicism, that believes America Can DO No Right.

I wonder really what the mood of the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan are to GWB in particular and the US in general ?

Media spinners of the right and left will tell us what they want us to hear, and you'll no doubt furnish an opinion that backs your viewpoint - but my gut feeling is that few would wish to revert to Taliban/Saddam times.

I may be wrong, but so might you.....

Talking about lost causes too (of whom the patron saint is St Jude) I think wounded dignity ("...that's why they hate us"...) is a classic.

But that's OK, we can hate with even more intensity and justification than they can, can't we?

And of course...."hate is the ulimate factor in revolution, PURE UNMITIGATED hate, of the type that turns a man into a murderous killing machine." Che Guevera
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:58 AM
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9. he just wanted the job, he had no intention of doing the work
thats why he hired dick cheney.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:56 PM
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10. That's what really scares me.. The scary people we DIDN'T elect
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 03:56 PM by SoCalDem
are the ones really running things:(
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retnavyliberal Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:18 PM
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11. Food for thought....
He is just as UNELECTED as the people he has running the show in DC and it would be hard to believe that said people could be more incompetent, so maybe we should really be counting our blessings he is MIA?
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:26 PM
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12. he's still campaiging because..
his deluded mind thinks that another Bush will make it into the White House.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:28 PM
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13. Remarkable sucess huh?
A few more remarkable sucesses from the boy blunder and we'll all be dead with nobody to throw the dirt over us.
I don't believe the moron* has four years, his numbers are tanking already, more and more people are waking each day to the manipulation they're subject to.
This misadministration is going to collapse like a house of marked cards, and we're going to go one of two ways, either we'll get rid of these idiots once and for all, or we'll become a monarchist dictatorship controlled by the house of bush*.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:18 AM
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15. In campaigns everything is scripted. Apparently even events at WH are
scripted. It seems nobody gets "impromptu" discussions with the idiot. He never discusses anything until the doors are closed and he is with his closest advisors. He may watch debate take place between some of his advisors. But he never participates in a give or take.

The whole life after 1977 is scripted. Included his jobs, his wealth, his recovery, his executive preparedness.

The whole thing is a perpetual campaign.


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