"It's IMPOSSIBLE to get a WH pass using an alias"...

[LynnTheDem]

Having worked in the White House, I can assure everyone that not only would it be impossible to get a White House pass using an alias, it is impossible even to get past the gate for an appointment using an alias. Thorough FBI background checks are required for the former and a picture ID is necessary for the latter. Therefore, if Gannon was using an alias, White House staff had to be involved in maintaining his cover.

-Bruce Bartlett
http://poynter.org/forum/?id=letters

[Az]

1. It's impossible if you only give an alias

He obviously had to give his real name to security. Someone had to greenlight not only his acceptance but also the use of his alias. This is a smoking gun. The top had to know what he was and had to be at least supportive of it.

[NewInNewJ.]

4. Scottie

said he used his real name for the pass. What I want to know, if Scottie knew his real name, why did Scottie use his fake name when he call on him?

[merwin]

6. Bush also called on him as Jeff

[drummer55]

7. is there vid or audio of this? n/t

[dmkinsey]

14. Yes

It was on Olberman. Scotty called on "Jeff" regularly

[centristo]

8. because

James Guckert is his real name and was the name on his driver's license which he gave to security, allegedly.

Jeff Gannon is his so-called professional name. I think in media and show business this is relatively common and not a huge cause for alarm. However, there clearly seems to be some complicity by the WH in letting this shady character into the Press Briefing. Scott McClellans' explanation was REALLY weak too.

[Bridget Burke]

10. Apparently he had several "Professions"....

Too bad he didn't use a different name for each one.

[Bonobo]

11. So his name tag says "Jeff Gannon" but his personal idea say "Guckert"...

and he is not stopped by SS!? Please rethink your position. It is untenable.

[MADem]

21. Yeah, right!!!

I'd say it's a name to use so your background check, if they bother to do one, doesn't show you owe back taxes from 96.

Professional name??? Gimme a break--Jeffie came into existence four days after the creation of TALON news.

[LynnTheDem]

25. Incorrect.

Female reporters are not allowed to use their maiden names on WH press passes even if they use their maiden names for professional purposes.

Aliases are NOT allowed on WH press passes.

[seventythree]

26. what the heck is that about

since a maiden name is not an alias.

[LynnTheDem]

32. I'm not sure; it's the law but I dunno why for.

Because SS clearance needs the married name? Is the married name still considered the only "legal" name once you are married, in the USA?

Maybe because checking under someone's maiden name would only give details up until the date they were married, so if you wed 10 years ago there'd be nothing on you since then?

[seventythree]

33. I can see asking for it, but

requiring it to be used on a pass when you don't use it professionally, is something else. Actually, one's legal name is any name one chooses to use as long as it is not used to defraud. Many security apps will ask maiden and married and any other name ever used, like if you were married before, it was the thought that they required you to put a name you don't use on an ID that got me -- kind of like Reagan not allowing women to wear pants in the WH -- a throw back to 1950.

[HereSince1628]

15. I know nothing about this but wouldn't a name appear on the

day pass?

If that's true there's physical evidence of what transpired.

If the pass had Guckert...and McClellan used "Gannon" MC is in on it.

If the pass had Gannon on it, someone approved putting an alias on the pass.

I am guessing some member of the White House Correspondents Association knows the answer to these mysteries.

[Hugin]

2. They just said to watch for the guy wearing the blue dress. n/t

[tabasco]

3. The republicans love phony actors as politicians.

It won't faze them a bit that we have phony reporters.

The only ones outraged by these crimes will be the true Americans that see their Nation sliding into the abyss of plutocracy.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. The fact that the rw is defending this guy is an outrage

Can you imagine what the media would be doing if this guy was a progressive?

[centristo]

9. its not an outrage

its laughable. I'm not outrages by these guys anymore. Everything they seem to do is so unbelievable its beyond me. There are some threads at FR that are just ludicrous. Why they rush to defend anyone the perceived liberal MSM busts on, regardless of the crime or the guilt, is beyond me.

[Lex]

12. The documented ROVE-NIXON connection to dirty tricks.

.
http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=1316&IssueNum=72

"At 21, Rove dropped out of college and into politics, and became an early protégé of convicted Watergate player Don Segretti – the political operative who invented the term “ratfucking” in the first place. In that same tradition, Rove has been linked to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, attacks on John McCain’s mental health, and, back in Texas, the whispering that Democratic Governor Ann Richards was a lesbian. Rove remains, for many, a prime suspect in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame, and even Republicans tend to reinforce his image as Bush’s Dark Lord. “He dominates a campaign,” Republican strategist David Weeks told The Washington Post. “Nothing ever happens that he’s not aware of.”"

--------

Everything that's old is new again.

[Hissyspit]

19. Hey, Lex. I added an intro to your Gannon-Rove-Nixon original post...

Jeff Gannon was acting like one of Nixon's "Rat Fuckers" (Democ-RAT Fuckers). He is probably connected to Karl Rove - seems like one of Rove's tricks - but that is the big question. Here is how Rove is connected to the Nixon people - Don Segretti. Boomers, remember that name from your childhood (Watergate coverage)?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3091072#

Lex (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-11-05 02:21 AM
Response to Reply #16

18. Found it! Rove's connections to Nixon's ratfuckers!

Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 02:25 AM by Lex
.
"At 21, Rove dropped out of college and into politics, and became an early protégé of convicted Watergate player Don Segretti – the political operative who invented the term “ratfucking” in the first place. In that same tradition, Rove has been linked to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, attacks on John McCain’s mental health, and, back in Texas, the whispering that Democratic Governor Ann Richards was a lesbian. Rove remains, for many, a prime suspect in the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame, and even Republicans tend to reinforce his image as Bush’s Dark Lord. “He dominates a campaign,” Republican strategist David Weeks told The Washington Post. “Nothing ever happens that he’s not aware of.”"

[Radio-Active]

13. Gannon's excuse for the alias -

was "Jeff Gannon" is easier to pronounce" YEAAAAHHH RIGHT!!

If the problem was that Guckert is difficult to pronounce, why did he change his first name also?

By that logic, he should've gone by "James Gannon" since "James" isn't difficult to pronounce. Nope, he's hiding something.

[underpants]

16. Jim Miklashevski

NBC's Pentagon reporter.

Is that harder than Guckert?

[Democrat 4 Ever]

17. I read somewhere that alias weren't allowed on the WH IDs

Even the day passes. The point was made with some of the better known female correspondents using their better known (often maiden) name for their credentials. The deal was they weren't allowed to use their professional name but had to get clearance and their ID showing their actual married name for "security reasons." Would love to see what name Mrs. Alan Greenspan has on her ID. Does anyone know if this is true? Just remember that it was a big deal for some of the women to have to use a pass with a name they didn't use professionally.

So I think the "professional" name excuse for Gannon is hog wash. He was a plant, pure and simple. SnottyScotty, GeorgyPorgy and every body else in between knows that is complete and utter BS. And that the idiot who can't even remember the major points of his own damn Social Security reform proposal can remember the name of a "Day Pass Wonk" posing as a journalist? Yeah, right. :puke: :mad:

[eridani]

29. This I don't understand

I have never gone by my husband's name for a single day of the 35 years we've been married. Are you saying that if I were a reporter, I'd be required to?

[LynnTheDem]

31. Correct. And guess WHO you must write to to get a WH press pass...

Female reporters, who use their maiden name professionally, are given credentials with their married name and aren't allowed to be credentialed under their maiden names.

And if ya wanna join the WH press gaggle, here's whatcha do;

1. Ignore this:

"I don't think it's the role of the press secretary to get into the business of being a media critic or picking and choosing who gets credentials," said McClellan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/columns/kurtzhoward/

2. Write on official letterhead:

Your real name, address, Social Security number, date of birth, and news affiliation.

3. Mail to:

Scott McClellan
Assistant to the President/Press Secretary
Office of the Press Secretary
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Northwest
Room #WH/1/WW
Washington, D.C. 20500

heh. They're ALL a bunch of total f*cking LIARS.

[seventythree]

27. like yah

he was hiding the fact that he was involved in M4M

[txaslftist]

18. Ummmmm. Apparently not?

[Gyre]

20. 1000% correct.

As somebody who works with law enforcement on a daily basis, I can tell you that they (law enforcement) can run you (obtain your criminal and dmv history) in a matter of minutes. The criminal history (CLETS) printout contains every alias you've ever used, whether you've ever been arrested or not. An absence of entry strongly implies a change of identity, hence suspicion of a concealed criminal history, sometimes leading to an extreme response. But they would never say, "okie doke. Nothing here. Guess he's clean."

This dude would be smoked out in seconds and have 10 glocks pointing at his head if S. McClellan were telling the truth. They let him in knowing who he really was.

Gyre

[seventythree]

28. Yah, but he gave his correct name

so there wouldn't be a glitch in the criminal stuff

[Melynn]

22. It's just not the alias

although the alias is suspicious. The fact that "Jeff Gannon" was granted a White House pass when he was working for a news service that was only six days old is enough to know that the administration was in on the whole deal.

[MADem]

23. The HARD PASS...a THEORY

Ya know, there are "hard" press passes, and there are "HARD" White House passes...much like there are hard press passes for the Pentagon, day passes to the PGon press room, and day passes (with/without escort) AND hard passes for those who are workers (renewal is based on when you PCS, scheduled timeframes for civ workers), or who are contractors on a six-month or more job. It's an ID, with name/photo/expiration--plain and easy to see.

The lamestream media, and Slaughter and Lautenberg, might be well advised to ask if Jimmy Jeff was issued any OTHER kind of White House pass. Don't limit the questioning to the press room alone.

[linazelle]

24. That's why they want to cover this up...they know it connects them

to him. There's no way cowardly Bush would allow anybody near him without uber scrutiny. They don't just know these folks' general identities, they put together dossiers on them.

[seventythree]

30. great point!