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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:50 AM
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Crackdown on cannabis cow fodder
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 11:50 AM by Anarcho-Socialist
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4257255.stm

Crackdown on cannabis cow fodder

Farmers in Liechtenstein can no longer feed cannabis to their herds under new rules in the small Alpine state.
Traces of the drug found in hashish have been filtering through to the milk of dairy cows fed with the hemp plant.

The levels breach the maximum limit set by the new rules - which say animal feed must be free of any element that could have an ill effect on humans.

The rules to be introduced in March are to bring Liechtenstein in line with standards in neighbouring Switzerland.

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:52 AM
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1. um...why would you feed pot to cows anyway?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:54 AM
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3. it's quite a good plant
It's easy to grow. It's high in fibre. It's low in toxins.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:59 AM
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7. Happens all the time out here in the midwest
Look between the rows of corn, and mixed in with the hay. It's all over the place.

There was a LOT of industrial hemp grown around here before the 1920's, and it interbred with the wild hemp. Now it comes into cultivated fields via birdshit and farmer's teenage sons. Lots of bales of hay have more than hay in them. If there are hemp seeds present, the animals really like those the best because they're very oily.

Not that this stuff is any good to smoke, mind you. Cough, gag...ugh.

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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:09 PM
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19. Need to organize a cross-pollination campaign.
Tie a string around your finger, lest you forget.
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:15 PM
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23. That is interesting. Do they look like 'regular' pot plants?
I have seen few pot plants in the flesh; I probably
wouldn't notice one in the wild if I were sitting on it.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:48 PM
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28. Sure
But much more 'lanky' than you'll see in a picture in High Times. They rarely have big stinky flowers since the wild female plants almost always get fertilized (and the industrial strains were bred for big stalks, not flowering characteristics).

Speaking of big hemp stalks, the biggest one I've seen was over 6 feet long and was at least 2.5 inches in diameter. A friend of mine dried it and used it as a walking staff for years. Again: this stuff makes poor smoking material, but is really great for making paper or feeding to cows.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:19 PM
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11. Ummmm to have happy cows.............
:think: :eyes:
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:47 PM
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27. Now thats what I call a brownie n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:53 AM
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2. But... is hemp really harmful to humans?
I thought the active ingredient in marijuana, the THC, I think... was not found in hemp.
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:55 AM
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4. Very, very low levels I believe
But it's still there.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:57 AM
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6. We in the US have acceptable levels of rat poop.
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 11:57 AM by redqueen
I'd like to compare the what the cut off points for trace amounts of THC and rat poop.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:52 PM
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29. and we dont all have receptors in our brains for rat poop!
all humans have chemical receptors that are triggered by THC. this plant is connected to the human race, and we demonize it because we are drawn to it!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:01 PM
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8. it isn't always there
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 12:14 PM by fishwax
the amount does vary, but some industrial hemp contains no thc whatsoever.

On Edit: I was thinking of hempseed oil products, but it actually is always there in the plant, though it can be at levels less than 0.3 percent.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:56 AM
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5. It's a matter of degree....
"Hemp" is just a lower-THC variety of the same plant.

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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:11 PM
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10. Its good for you
There's allways some THC, even if minuscule amounts, in hemp.

But of all foodstuff, if human kind would have to live on just one, hempseed would be the only possible choice. It is the best nourishment.
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:45 PM
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12. A tbsp of hemp seeds is every ammino acid and omega fat you need in a day
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:03 PM
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16. No, it isn't. THC is found in 'trace levels' in hemp,
It's found in less than 1% in Cannabis Hemp

Even then, THC is not harmful unless you consider the bad science than the Bush and Nixon administration has exployed.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:52 PM
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32. No, and neither is THC (both are, in fact, beneficial).
NT!

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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:07 PM
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36. Good for ya - pot and hemp!!!!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:13 AM
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38. They should both be legal.
That they aren't fully legal shows just how nuts this country is.

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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:02 PM
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9. Well, I'm not sure of the protein levels in hemp hay...
but I'm sure that it could be figured so that it would work with the other feed being used. It probably has protein levels similar to alfalfa. The levels of THC in hemp are very low and the resultant levels of THC found in milk should also be less than .03%

The big difference would be that industrial hemp as a crop produces so much more fiber on less land. It would be a much more productive feed crop and in Europe where land is a consideration it would make sense to crop it for hay.
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:47 PM
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13. Humans
can be allergic to hemp and THC. I know, I am. Before you ask, I found out one REALLY bad night in college.
I am not the only one. We could get in big trouble drinking that milk.
Just wondering, Some cows eat peanut shell hulls, I wonder if that effects those allergic to peanuts?
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:07 PM
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18. Yes and no.
It depends on the specific compound you are allergic to.

It's a matter of processing.

Allergies can be very strange, one must consider that sometimes it is an enzime or compound that is broken up in that process. For instance, I am allergic to raw blueberries, ones they have been cooked though, I can eat them without any ill affect.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:16 PM
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24. They have drugs for that.
Just wish they had a drug for bad nights in college, in general.

I'm allergic to oppression and absurd laws. I'm in no search of a cure.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:35 PM
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25. could have been a lot of diffeent things, pesticides.. aditives..got some
some with PCP once... i have never heard of anyone alergic to THC..

that is a first...since 1967 for me, but i have gotten some raactions to Pesticides and the Feds have poisioned crops by air..

if you dont grow your own .. you dont know what you get
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:10 PM
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37. Grow your own, organic ganja rules!!!
Cool cool cool!!!
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d.l.Green Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:49 PM
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14. This story is as full of bullsh** as the cows, more anti-hemp propaganda!
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 12:51 PM by d.l.Green
I would assume that a cow's milk does concentrate certain properties of the greens it eats, but we're talking about a plant that has an extremely small THC(less than 1%) content compared to its related species. And the "limits" are part of an ongoing program to demonize a renewable agricultural resource that could potentially replace paper from trees and petroleum oil(for fuel and plastics). Every time I see a story like this my blood boils. The story of hemp has opened my mind to the idea that government is NOT to be trusted- and not only just recently...:grr:

Check out the links at http://www.hempcar.org/indexOLD.html for more info
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:10 PM
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20. In all likelyhood it is BS
Cows milk has natural levels of THC in it, so does female human breast milk. In fact, even babies test positive for cannabanoids in their system when they obviously aren't large or developed enough to actually hit a joint or pipe.

It sounds more like someone is looking for a reason to fight the use of hemp based products like the DEA in America.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:57 PM
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33. "Cows milk has natural levels of THC in it..."
Is this true? I had not heard that before! Very interesting if so.

...when they obviously aren't large or developed enough to actually hit a joint or pipe.

Man, that's a hilarious visual. Good thing there's no hell, because if it existed I'd be going!

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jimfromthebronx10469 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:15 PM
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34. hello d.i.
cant agree more with your post.our government needs to view "HEMP FOR VICTORY" again. back in the 40's when the call went out to american farmers to grow hemp by the hundreds of thousands of acres,hemp was an unsung hero of ww11. the many commercial products created back then could very well used again today...
from time to time i watch a seed burn, tiny as they are they pack a powerful burn. i picture a small community whose power is generated from hempseed.i see a renewable source for this energy which also is enviornmentally friendly, grown across middle america .i see jobs created from legal hemp not to forget billions of $$$ created from legal weed..its estimated their are 30,000,000 weed smokers across the usa and of varying ages,sexes,races,sizes and opinions.
but our enemy here is "BIG OIL".
D.I. GREEN it makes my blood boil also..
:toast: :toast: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hi: :dem:
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:58 PM
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15. drink milk, our cows are high on grass!
anybody rural DUers remember the bumper stickers form the 70's?
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:09 PM
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31. already too late to edit
i have to correct myself, it was "get high on milk, our cows are on grass".
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:04 PM
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17. California is wrong, "Happy cows live in Liechtenstein!"
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:11 PM
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21. Are the cows eating a lot of Doritos as well?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:12 PM
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22. Don't Let Mad Cows Become Bad Cows
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:46 PM
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26. What are the ill effects again... I forget the latest misinformation!
does it make you kill people.. no wait that was long ago, maybe it makes you crazy.. or sexually depraved, no no .. I know its the gateway drug II (since it was called in the gateway drug in the 60's too.. recycled lies, sad huh). WAIT.. I remeber... Smoking pot helps the terrorists! those damn terrorist cows! :)
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:55 PM
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30. It's called "Indiana ditch weed" here in so. Illinois
Tastes lousy and smells worse, but it is a cousin of that "awful" weed...
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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:28 PM
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35. my british friend talks about Guerrilla Gardening pot
just planting it everywhere, so much that the govt cant possible keep up with eradicating it, lol

She said thats happening in England.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:15 AM
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39. Yes. It's the way to go, I think.
NT!

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