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soundhead Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:21 PM
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What are the Neocon Ties to the Military-Industrial Complex?
Does anyone know of a good website detailing all the ties (past and present) of all the Neocons to private military corporations? People like Wolfowitz, Ken Adelman, Kristol, all of them: what are their links to the War Machine?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:23 PM
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1. They ARE the M/I complex.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:31 PM
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5. Yes. The two are the same. Here are some links
Neocons are funded by the owners of the M.I.C.

Their "philosophy" is nothing more than an expression of selling the military into greater and greater use.

A very good list of
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/spheresInfluence.html

I especially liked:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/iraq/etc/wolf.html

excerpt:

"Paul Wolfowitz, then-under secretary of defense for policy, supervised the drafting of a 1992 policy statement on America's mission in the post-Cold War era. Called the "Defense Planning Guidance," it is an internal set of military guidelines that typically is prepared every few years by the Defense Department. This policy guidance is distributed to military leaders and civilian Defense Department heads to provide them with a geopolitical framework for assessing their force level and bugetary needs."
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:21 PM
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13. Thank you.
I'm in a rush, but have bookmarked them for after while.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:26 PM
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2. Pick one
Best to start at AEI (American Enterprise Institute):nuke:
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:28 PM
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3. Carlyle Group
here's a Guardian article, but there's a lot more out there on these guys:
http://tinyurl.com/3n892
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soundhead Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:32 PM
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6. Details, details
I thought there might be some site which lists them all individually and goes through their ties to war corporations. For instance, I think I read somewhere that Wolfowitz worked for Raytheon (or one of those Co.s) but I can't seem to find a comprehensive list of them all.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:46 PM
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12. I'm searching my bookmarks now, but don't let that
stop you from continuing your search. :)
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:44 PM
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11. online docu "The Iron Triangle"
www.ed2k.dyndns.info/BB/viewtopic.php?t=69

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm

(it is no longer just "military-industrial complex", it's now the "military-industrial-congressional complex")


"The war in Iraq is over.

The rubble is still smoking while the first dozers are already entering the country.
After the coalition forces destroyed Baghdad it is now primarily American companies who are to rebuild Iraq.

An interesting point is that these companies usually have people on the payroll who have been politicians. Is this a conflict of interests or a new (global) way of doing business?

One of the corporations that work this way is the Carlyle Group. On their payroll are people like : George Bush (Sr.), James Baker III and old premier John Major.

The Carlyle Group is a private investment bank which doesn't come to the publics attention very often but it is one of the biggest American (ed: USA) investors of the defense industry, telecom, property and financial services."
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:29 PM
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4. This site details it pretty well
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:34 PM
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7. Here's one
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Think_Tanks/Military_ThinkTanks.html

Not sure if that's what you're looking for, but it gives a few details about how some of them have worked, in some capacity, for defense corporations.

But like was said, they are the MIC.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:36 PM
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8. Cheney: Halliburton, Rumsfeld: Bechtel
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:39 PM
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9. Corporate Welfare & Incest
There are several sites that cover segements of the PNAC and Neo-Con connections...but it's not that easily explained or viewed.

Many of these goons sit on boards of companies or are "consultants"...or just own large blocks of prefered stocks and other assets that makes 'em richer as the killing goes on.

Some of these are "investory" in companies that one doesn't associate with the military...General Electric for example...that can provide lots of perks to their "pets". Trips, refrigerators, contracts for other PNAC buddies they get a piece of the action on...and so on.

Unless you get a copy of these people's income tax returns...and then have a real good auditor who can read between the lines, their riches and ways to further enrich themselves will be hard to find out.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:42 PM
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10. Check out membership on the Defense Advisory Board
Perle was the chair until activists made it too hot for him to keep.
Was it Sy Hersch that Perle threatened to sue over his article on this? I'll have to go rummage through my paper files in the basement...


At any rate Perle gave the appearance of possible conflicts of interest that seemed positioned to funnel millions to his clients.

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firebee Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:33 PM
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14. Carlyle Group!!!
Read the Bios and those will give you the ties to the military industrial complex. James Baker, George Bush Sr., Leslie Armitage, etc.
http://thecarlylegroup.com/eng/team/index.html

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 03:17 PM
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15. PNAC Links Archive (Redux)
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:51 PM
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16. Book: Imperialist Designs: Dorien. 30 pages of source notes
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