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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:55 PM
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Dean: "I won't respond to blind quotes"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/12/15933/5364

by Chris Andersen

Sat Feb 12th, 2005 at 12:09:33 PST

Just caught a press conference Democratic Party Chairman (ooh that sounds nice) Howard Dean gave after winning the chairmanship. One reporter asked him a question with a "some Democrats say that they are worried about the image you will give to the party" bent to it. Dean responded by saying he "won't respond to blind quotes".


I just know I love this man.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:56 PM
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1. Brilliant. I picked that up too. A VERY important policy!!!!
Dr. Dean, lead us from the darkness. On his first day he let it be known that he will not respond to the "many people say" type of "question" from journalists.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:58 PM
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5. "Some people say...."
"Some are saying...."
"Some people say...."
"Some say...."
"Some people say...."

I just love that part of OutFoxed.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:04 PM
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12. That is a great section of OutFoxed
And this is good move.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:05 PM
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108. Now I know where Katie Couric learned it! n/t
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progressiveandproud Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:14 PM
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Thanks...
...for bringing up "Outfoxed". You've helped drive me to rent it.

Jonathan
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:16 AM
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81. OMG
there is a goddess! .. or something along those lines.


He stands up AGAIN! ..

Whoever/whatever .. this man is an outstanding human being.

(I whisper a little prayer )

Let us have peace upon the earth.

Let us leave behind those who want to take everything unto themselves and destroy the planet and its inhabitants.

Let us know peace. There is still time.
Where do we find you?
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:17 PM
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109. I hope he actually sticks with this
It'll drive the media crazy, and I love it.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:57 PM
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2. Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhrrrrgggg!
Go Howard!
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:57 PM
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3. What a Kick ass quote from Dean!
:thumbsup:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:58 PM
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4. Excellent!
Off to a great start. Hopefully, the rest of the Democrats are paying attention and will follow that policy.
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:58 PM
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6. Excellent response!
He won't be 'Outfoxed'.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:58 PM
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7. He can refuse to answer their bs leading questions? Great!!
Good job
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:02 PM
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11. I wonder if they had anymore questions after that...
Journalists are so lazy, they almost never use sources. That's become their favorite thing to do. "Some say..."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:17 PM
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16. Yes, moments later
And Dr. Dean simply said "I will give you the same answer I gave him, I wil not reply to blind quotes."
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:47 PM
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45. You get the feeling when they pull out "some say . . ."
what they are really referring to is their own opinion. Go Howard!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:07 PM
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53. That's because..
.... their questions have no sources other than the RW echo chamber.

It is going to be a breath of fresh air to see someone finally take on the RW and their whores rhetorically.

Dean and Clark (and of course Keneddy and Boxer) seem to be the only two willing to dish it back to the Repugs.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #53
63. Dennis Kucinch
eom
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #53
100. Reid's said much the same as well. There are grads of the Heritage Foundat
in every newsroom. This isn't an accident. It's lazy journalists letting RW grunts do the work.

It can get stopped, and this is an EXCELLENT start.
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #100
131. Frank Lautenberg. eom
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #11
98. Many of us don't realize that LAZY "journalists" (more like PR operatives)
are our biggest problem, but quite possibly the easiest one to solve.

With Reid and Dean both refusing to do this, they are gonna find they have to work much harder.

I'M DAMN PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT!
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:00 PM
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8. YES!!!!
Give 'em hell, Howard!!!

dg
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:00 PM
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9. That is WONDERFUL
What a comeback. You go Howard!!!
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:01 PM
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10. Wow! A DNC Chairman displaying excellent media savvy!
Go Chairman Dean!;)
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:04 PM
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13. Hell yea
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:08 PM
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14. Woot Woot!
Give em' hell Howard!

:dem: :dem: :dem:
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. WOOT WOOT indeed
Fuckin A!
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #23
61. I cropped the Dean pix

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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #61
67. awesome! mind if I use it?
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. Yes! I mean't to add that it was for you...
...since the election is over. It's just such a great pix. I think it would make a great bumper sticker.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:09 PM
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15. go Howard, go Howard, go howard!!!!!! bet that reporter was from Faux
thats there stock and trade----"Some people say"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #15
32. OR cnn..judy
woof..particulary.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #32
73. Just the other day I heard Judy Woodruff say
"But what about the Republicans who say..."

:headbang:
rocknation
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:05 AM
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87. Answer.. "Judy "those" republicans are full of SHIT!!" Next question?
This is a cheap and easy way to get THEIR agenda into OUR airtime..

some people say
people are saying
it was overheard recently
it's being reported
etc etc etc
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #87
93. Well, Howard's reaction was to chuckle and say
"That sounds like idle Washtington gossip to me" and "if such reports do exist, I'd like to see them." YEAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!
(Carpe screeum--SIEZE THE SCREAM!)

:headbang:
rocknation
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #93
96. Carpe screeum!
I wish I had added that to my bumpersticker thread. Outstanding.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #73
101. I would love to know that our guy said:
"I don't give a damn what the Republicans think. I care what the Americans think!"
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:18 PM
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17. Some people say journalists have their hands firmly on Bush's d**k
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #17
90. Desk?
Duck?
Disk?
Deck?

:freak::shrug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:24 PM
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18. 'I won't respond to blind quotes' is another, more polite, way of saying
...FUCK YOU, you agenda-driven whore disguised as a reporter!!!!

Howard Dean is just WONDERFUL. WONDERFUL!!!! And he is a GENIUS, as well. Talk about castrating anyone with a bullshit agenda. GO HOWIE, GO!!!

If GWHB can say "HOW DARE YOU ask me that question?" in response to Jennifer Fitzgerald queries, and if Junior can say he isn't going to answer any coke spoon questions, to the cheers of their supporters, the GOP has no room to whine about this.

But you do know, of course, that they will. The whingeing whiners!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. Absolutely!
He won't allow himself to be manipulated by the mediawhores. Go Howard! :thumbsup:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #18
47. In a lot of ways
I'm glad things are going the way they are. Why? I think now that we have Dean as DNC chairman he can fight all these battels out there to defeat the republicans and gain back the media the way it's meant to be. If we won the House think of all we wouldn't be able to do. Get back the media and wake people up and get BushCo for all their lies and make our party so much stronger then what we are now. I'm very hopeful for our future now with Mr. Dean. :bounce:
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:33 PM
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19. Brilliant response. Having Howard at the helm is going to a hoot!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:34 PM
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20. Some people say that Bush is the second beast in Revelations
but just some say that. Don't quote me.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #20
57. I'm not only going to quote you
I'm cutting and pasteing it on the Freepublic, with your e-mail address.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #57
94. Of course others say he's the anti-Christ
and America will fall like Rome did.

and thanks for the favor...I'll return
it one day.
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #94
121. www.bushisantichrist.com eom
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:39 PM
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22. Some people say Republicans eat kitten fetuses and live babies too
That's what "some people" say....
:P pigfuckers

Chairman Dean is going to destroy the Republicans in 2006. He's got his head screwed on right and a solid backbone too. blind quotes indeed... That's a fine policy.


Today is a good day for democracy, with many more to come.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #22
50. I just wanted to say
I love FireFox. They're the best internet server. I used to use I.E. but then my brother found out about Firefox and downloaded it and it's all I use now days. It's truly the best (and no annoying ads!).
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:51 PM
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24. Yaaay Dean! He's too smart for 'em!
I would've added: "I won't respond to blind quotes and there's an elephant on your head." :D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. You Cracked me up with that!
:D LOL! :toast:
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:51 PM
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25. Did Jeff Gannon ask that question? Ohhhhh that's
right, today is the day he works on his websites.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:53 PM
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26. I was absolutely floored when I saw him say that
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 05:54 PM by Spiffarino
The first "reporter" did it, and he said, "Let me first say that I won't respond to blind quotes. What I will say is..."

When the second idiot did the same thing about half a minute later, he just shut him down. "I'll tell you the same thing I told him, I won't respond to blind quotes." That was that. Next question.

OOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...this is gonna be so much fun!

On edit: Beaten, but worth repeatin'.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 05:59 PM
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27. He's not taking any crap
I love it and am so happy today. My election gloom is lifitng as hope replaces it.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:02 PM
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HAHA. SOME DEMOCRATS say kiss my LILY WHITE ASS
GO HOWARD
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:02 PM
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28. HAHA. SOME DEMOCRATS say kiss my LILY WHITE ASS
GO HOWARD
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:11 PM
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29. Dean is a very smart guy! That's a great idea, and a great way...
... to begin to gain some control over the media environment that has been so poisonous for Democrats.

Go, Howard! :hi:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #29
51. Howard is playing it right
Don't give them ANYTHING to gossip about! :bounce:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #29
126. I just love that pic!
Howard looks like he's playing cocktail lounge piano! :)
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:26 PM
Response to Original message
30. I think I'm in love!
:loveya:

:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:26 PM
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31. Atta Boy, Dean!
Tell them.. oh so nicely.. they can take their "blind quotes" and shove it up their collective blind ass!

I wonder who came up with that description.."blind quotes"?..It's priceless!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #31
43. Blind quotes from a blind media.
Appropos.

Way to go Howard. Putting them on call, that it's not 'business as usual' at the DNC.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. I've been toasting to Dean and the new
DNC..all afternoon! :P :toast:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:40 PM
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34. This is the first happy day, the first bright spot, since November 2.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:41 PM
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35. That's an excellent answer! n/t
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Stepup2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:43 PM
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36. Ohhh Yeahhh!!
And a new day dawns :smoke:
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:45 PM
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37. Finally someone calls them out!!!
I love Howard too.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:54 PM
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38. Chairman Dean ...
I LOVE YOU! :loveya:
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. "Chairman Dean" sounds damned good
Finally, a Democratic Committee chairman we can love (okay, I loved Rendell, but he does put his foot in his mouth way too often for a job like this)
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #42
59. No it doesn't.
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 08:23 PM by w4rma
Chairman Mao. Avoid this rhetoric, please.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #59
65. Oh come on, lighten up ...
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 08:57 PM by BattyDem

We're happy! Let's be giddy for one day!
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Freebird12004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:02 PM
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39. a clear case of a choice to "act not react"
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:08 PM
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40. But, but, but . . . how can we slip in unfounded tropes? How can we imply
you're illegitimate? How are we going to slime and divert you if you won't respond to the shit we've made up or pulled out of our lazy asses.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. "It's hard work"
;)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:43 PM
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44. I saw that and was happy
on how he handled the media. He was a straight shooter and told it like it is. No b.s. with Dean. :bounce:
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 07:59 PM
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48. Wouldn't it be wonderful
if Dr. Dean and Senator Boxer had babies. Oh yeah, that's us!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. LOL
And I don't think his wife would be a huge supporter of that. ;) Unless he just donated some sperm or something.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:38 AM
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112. Barbara says no....
:):):)
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #112
123. their babies are
we posters on DU. No need for their actual genetics to be involved, just their memetics.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:03 PM
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49. KICK ASS.
That's step one. NO ANSWERING to quotes that are "some people say." Either give a name and some verification or forget it.

You know what? ALL DEMOCRATS should do this. I NEVER respond when someone says "Welllll, people SAY..." I say "Who?" And of course, they have no names, so I tell them I don't respond to rumor. We'll either discuss the issues on their merits or forget it. No gossip, no rumor mill shit.

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:07 PM
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54. An Excellent Beginning For Gov. Dean As Chairman, Sir
May he carry on in similar vein with these wretched hirelings of the mainstream press....

"In this vale of tears, there is always something to be thankful for: for myself, I give thanks I am not a Republican."
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:12 PM
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55. I'm going to enjoy being a "Deaniac" :)) -nt
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The Minus World Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:12 PM
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56. Great job, Mr. Dean!
Let's lay the throngs of unnamed, non-existent skeptics - the ones who only seem to have criticism for the Democratic party - to rest once and for all.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:18 PM
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58. Awesome. They will now have to find a source for their quote before
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 08:18 PM by w4rma
expecting an answer from the DNC. They actually have to do some research rather than relying on hearsay.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:24 PM
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60. WOOOOAH! Shut 'em DOWN! Perfect response!
That just eliminates about HALF the bullshit questions from the Corporate Media. It will totally piss off the Freepulsives as well!

Now, how do we get the entire PARTY responding in that fashion? Tattoo it on the insides of their eyelids?

The revolution starts now.

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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:28 AM
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118. Well, this is the kind of thing that, as chairman
Dean should be telling all Dems to do. It isn't him dictating policy, it's him helping the party's media image
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:33 PM
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62. Way to go! (nt)
nt
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:44 PM
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99. I like your sig pic
Here's one I did:

BTW, nice blog. Excellent work.
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:51 PM
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64. Spotlights Fox tactics
Has anyone seen "outfoxed" how they use that
Some people say thing all the time to push an agenda, and how the pundits use it?

If DEAN who will be in the spotlight a lot will continue to do this it will shine a light on that tactic, and the other punditry crap that the MSM is pushing as legitimate news.

First Williams, Then the others...

Now DEAN calling it like it is..

This is exactly good enough to be true, or so some people say!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:01 PM
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66. Way to go, Dr. Dean! w00t! Call 'em on their shit!!!! Woohoo! n/t
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:22 PM
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68. Ooh, chutzpa. I like it.
One thing worries me, though. Does this mean we can expect to see a lot of "Dr. Dean refused to comment on these allegations"? That's the thing about slime; it sticks whether you play along or not.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:45 PM
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72. Deans tactic points out...
...those aren't "allegations", that's "heresay" and "rumor mongering". Say, "Sen X said that..." or "the ABC recently released a poll showing", that way we have a mechanism to respond. "The ABC poll, interestingly enough, over-values Republicans by 35% and was administed under contract by Y right-wing think tank. Understandably, I don't take their 'research' seriously." or "Sen X didn't mention that X, Y and Z in just 4 years, or that his state gets x more dollars per capita for B than any other..." or heck, even, "I've not seen that, but now that I know where to look for it, I'll check it out and have a response for you the next time I see you."

No more off the cuff responses to vague bullshit. Either informed responses to sourced allegations/statements or the opportunity to get informed and speak to the ISSUES.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:52 PM
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70. Wonderful!
Best news I've had in a month of Sundays!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 10:29 PM
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71. Brilliant! What a way to start!
Dean's victory is the only thing I've been happy about so far this year. Oh, that and the Jeff Gannon prostitution thing.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:55 AM
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89. good starts is confidense building
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:31 PM
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74. Smart move by Dean.
I think after MSM made him out to be an outraged nut during the election, he will be more careful in the future. I think Dean is great and he is a very smart man. He will do a good job for us.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:35 PM
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75. better, he's turned the spotlight on the msm
annd pointed out how biased and unprepared they really are.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 11:47 PM
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76. Dean is going to rock, I don't know what all the 'fuss' is about.
It's been really creepy lately watching the MSM. The Gannongate story has really got then flustered and cagey, and they are CONSTANTLY slamming Dean. MSM quote: "Howard Dean, infamous for the Dean scream has just won DNC chair".

Infamous? They make him sound like a criminal, unfuckingbelievable!

The corporate whore media stream is downright worthless trash, it's blatant brainwashing, and pathetic.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:00 AM
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77. Yes Gannon ... Hero, Dean ... bad man.
Interesting aint it?
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:44 AM
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119. We need our headline: "H. Dean, Inventor of the Dean Scream..."
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:04 AM
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78. Ha!
Off to a flying start. Yeeeaaaaaggggghhhhhh!!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:06 AM
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79. Stop gossip in its tracks and
make it much harder to inject spin into their questions while sounding oh so innocent and objective. Also make them responsible for their own questions and command a little more respect in the process.

Absolutely excellent strategy.
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progressiveandproud Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:55 PM
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107. Yeah, my fears are getting put to rest.
This truly is the man who wrote the forward to Don't Think of an Elephant. Dean is aware of the uses/abuses of language. Thank God!
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:08 AM
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80. Dean, Dean the DNC machine!! Go Howard!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:31 AM
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82. And then some smug prick quoted Newt Gingrich
and said "that's attributed"...some lame quote about Howard Dean being the Democratic "death wish" and Howard said, "Actually, I'm glad to have the opportunity to prove Newt wrong".

WOOT!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:11 PM
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103. Brilliant!
Like newt would know jack shit, anyway?!
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 12:37 AM
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83. I hope he encourages all Democrats to take this approach.
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 12:37 AM by Stirk
Just that one tactic would do alot of good if all Democrats used it. It's like throwing a monkey wrench into the right-wing's propaganda machine.

Great start for Dean.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:33 AM
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84. I agree!!!
I was on FRee republic today looking for their reactions to Propagannon, and I saw them cowering over Dean. They tried to sound excited, but deep down below, they were scared shitless.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:31 PM
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127. wha? shitless?
Now THAT's quite a feat, since they're full of it!

BTW - LOVE your sig pic! Go, Russ! :)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:52 AM
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88. hey, that would be GREAT!!
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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:36 AM
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85. Good on 'im! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:01 AM
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86. "if you give me the documents" was it Kerry or Dean who said this
to a newscaster--when a similar comment was made ....some say...
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:30 AM
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92. It was Dr. Dean on Inside Politics - he shut down Judy Woodruff:
Woodruff: It's been reported that some conservative Democrats have let it be known that they're ready to leave the Party if you're elected Chair. Have you heard this?

Dean: No, I haven't heard that. That sounds like Washington gossip to me. But I'd be happy to take a look at those reports if you'd let me see them.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:14 PM
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104. As if! What he told her anyone
with a brain could understand.."you lyin' bitch..I'm callin' you on your shit!"

Except Dean doesn't talk that way..only me when I think about what the whoremedia has been doin' to our Country!
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:30 PM
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133. OOOO! Snap!
Take that, biz-natch!
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:11 AM
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91. that's great.
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 10:12 AM by bloom
and probably a lot of Freepers don't get it - because they haven't seen "OutFoxed".


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:20 PM
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95. The Doctor is IN
I love that man. Perfect response Dean, thank you!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:39 PM
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97. A-EFFING-MEN. Neither does Reid.
Look the hell out, Rove.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:57 PM
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102. GOOD for him...this 'some xxxx say...' bullshit has got to stop...
...and the good Doctor will put a stop to that little cancer. Verbal bitchslap! I love it!

:evilgrin:
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:00 PM
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105. OMG, I think I'm gonna faint....woooooooooohoooooooo
Dare I hope Dare I hope; SPINE is happening!!! Yesssssssss

GO DEAN!!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:10 PM
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106. No messing with this leader; NONE. (nt)



"DO YOU ENJOY BEING A CITIZEN OF THE ROGUE SUPER_POWER?"
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:45 PM
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110. HELP!
If you were going to put the "dean scream" on a bumper sticker, how would you spell it?
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baron j Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:59 AM
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111. I saw this earlier on c-span. The look in Dean's eyes
when answering this fool was commanding. Dean's face was serene, but he cast the sort of sharp glance a parent does towards a misbehaving child that has crossed the line, to freeze them in his or her tracks. It even made me feel like guilty kid, and I'm on his side! Too bad no one has video yet; I missed most of it.

He made a wonderful comment about--i'm paraphrasing loosely--reaching out to people of all faiths and beliefs that the democratic party is the party for them, not just reaching out to fundamentalists. Snappity snap!
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:56 AM
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115. Snappity Snap Snap!!!
:headbang:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:20 AM
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113. It's good
I like the idea of not wasting time with bullshit like this.

But... we did see what happened to ridiculous unanswered attacks and accusations during the campaign (Swift Vets).

No lie can be left unanswered.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:51 AM
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114. blessed be, citing sources may come back in vogue!
and a kickity kick again for such a good story (that i heard some people say... sorry couldn't help myself! :P )

:kick:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:02 AM
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116. The documentary "Outfoxed" did a section on the "Some people say"
Thank goodness Dean started right off the bat and put an end to that.

This person says that "Some people say" is their way of distorting the truth in the favor of those people who ask questions that start with "Some People Say"
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progressiveandproud Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #116
129. Thank you...
...for letting me know that "Outfoxed" talked about "Some people say". Gives me all the more impetus to go to the video store and rent it!

Jonathan

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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 02:48 AM
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137. Could you ever get more impetus than what is happening now?
Rent it!!!! Invite 20 friends over and watch it!!
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progressiveandproud Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:00 PM
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140. Haha! Funny you mention it...
...I just called a friend and left a message saying we should get together sometime and do something like watch "the anti-Fox News documentary, 'Outfoxed'". I added, "just kidding," 'cause I didn't want to inflame passions or anything. But I'm still gonna ask him to watch it with me.

My friend has recently (as of 2003 or early 2004) crossed over from the Republican camp to become a "moderate" in the "big tent" Democratic Party, and I think he still may get some of his news from Fox, so this should be interesting.

Once again, thanks!

Jonathan
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:10 AM
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117. The image he will give the party? Try the image of a BACKBONE.
Way to go, Dean!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:49 AM
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120. "Crazy Dean lashes out at the blind!"
I'm pretty sure this is how Wolf Blitzer covered the story.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:24 AM
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122. YEEAAAARGGGH!
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:12 PM
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124. I saw that yesterday!
now if he could just let that feistiness propagate out into the rest of the liberals that show their faces on camera, i would be a happy camper.


we've got to stop answering slanted questions and "some people say" type stuff, and throw it back in their faces and force them to be objective or go unanswered.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:12 PM
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125. Just wanted to pile on & commend Dean for this.
He should have the DNC regularly fax-blast a list of rules to live by when dealing with whore media - how do be ready for their tricks, and He just illuminated bullet point #1 - don't be suckered in by "Some people say..."

Go Howard!
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:34 PM
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128. I was jsut thinking that this morning....
we need to give a 2-day $50 seminar on how to cope with the Right-wing Media in interviews and such.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:14 PM
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130. I knew he was a wise choice
not just for DNC.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:25 PM
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132. Dr. Dean will NOT be a SLAVE to their questions!
The doctor is NOW in the HOUSE! Things are looking up-wards! Thank you Dr. Howard Dean and the DNC for kicking up the message!

:thumbsup:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:33 PM
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134. he also refused a CBS interview
unless they promised not to play the stupid scream for the zillionth time.

No wonder the whores hate Dean!

:toast:
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isit2008yet Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 05:41 PM
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135. Is the Dean scream such a bad thing?
It seems to be the only thing the talking heads can throw out about Dean...I think its becoming his trademark and shows how enthusiastic he is about re-energizing the party.

Some say he is too liberal...on Crossfire, Carvell said he wasn't anymore liberal than California Arnold. It seemed to shut the conservatives up.

I think the conservatives are scared of Dean and his ability to attract a huge grassroots following...they just seem so pathetic in their attempt to attack him.
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baron j Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 03:05 AM
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138. When I first witnessed the scream incident on tv
I simply didn't get what the problem was; and I still don't get it. If the Chimpleton can dress casual, sans tie, Dean should be able to cheer enthusiastically, and still be Presidential. Sheesh!
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:03 AM
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139. "Chimpleton" - ha! excellent!
I may be borrowing that in the future (with your kind permission of course :) ).

And you've probably heard it by now, but welcome to DU!
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:03 PM
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136. The first thing I thought when I saw the topic heading
was "Hot damn! Dean watched OutFoxed!" It's about time someone called the MSM on the bullshit lie that is, "Some people are saying...." (*quickly changes avatar image in honor of Dr. Dean*)
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