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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:01 PM Original message |
Microwave gun to be used by US troops on Iraq rioters |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. that's what the police have said about tasers |
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LiberalVoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Stun guns shock you with electricity. |
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evolvenow (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. No after-effects? That kind of heat, on the largest organ, skin..Horrible |
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warrior1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. dumb question |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. A metal reflector could be devised. Aluminum would work well. |
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Massacure (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. What about buildings? Wouldn't buildings reflect it back at the troops? |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Not really |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. If you hold the "mirror" perpendicular to the beam, yes |
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evolvenow (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 02:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
62. Nerve, Eye, Brain Damage, burns, cancers...Outrageous |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. OMG! They are effectively "Cooking" these people from the inside out!!! |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. No, they would not be |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Phew! That info you just gave just makes me feel so much better! |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Take it or leave it |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. these people? |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
42. That's about right |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. And fuck the babies, kids, old people who can't get out of the way in time |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Notice the terminology of calling them "Sheriffs" and "Gunslingers". |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. How do you know that |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Better Question: How do YOU KNOW with such certainty all the effects of |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Physics |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I'll post some links to reports mentioning health hazards of microwaves. |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. You do realize that there are EM waves of different wavelengths? |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. FCC Policy on Human Exposure to Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Fields |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. In general, yes |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. By the way, welcome to DU, Robert Heinlein fan! |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Thanks. |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Thermal models for microwave hazards and their role in standards developme |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Ah, then you know that it'd cause serious burns. |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. If you wanted to build a lethal weapon, sure, you could do it easily |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:04 PM Original message |
Microwave Ovens and their Hazards |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. Of course this weapon would be using Pulsed Microwave Technology. |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
57. These effects require EM energy to penetrate into the body |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. This is from OSHA. Radiofrequency and Microwave Radiation |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Cellular/Mobile Telephones And Their Potential Hazards |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
48. In tests, the pain was SO intense, it could only be withstood for a few |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Thanks for the excellent links Lynn. Do Microwave Weapons Kill? |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. The Nazis tested their new weapons in Spain during the Spanish |
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n2mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. I sent this awhile ago to DU |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Use of microwave weapons is under reported, because it sounds so far out. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
14. New military toy... Who to try it out on? Hmmm........ |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. This will be used |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sounds like a test run for use on Americans |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Hey, three units were deployed but not used.... |
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Conservativesux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. I would consider such use as an attack on my life and act accordingly. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 02:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
65. And THIS IS HOW WE WARN PEOPLE: |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. What keeps the army from "tweaking" the energy of the microwaves? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Or to torture prisoners. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. They do have engineers |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Any technology can, and will |
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evolvenow (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 02:25 AM Response to Reply #37 |
60. Sadly, yes. GWEN Towers, HAARP & Satellite GPS_EMF Control Grid |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. I don't know, that seems a bit far fetched |
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kamqute (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. They've been using stuff like this for a long time in Iraq |
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jjtss (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. God forgive me but........... |
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NCN007 (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. Microwave guns are non-leathal weapons |
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Grey Ranks (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Common Sense |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Of course, not being bullets, it might be used more freely. |
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Grey Ranks (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. True |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Killing Me Softly |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. So you won't be dead-- |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
44. New non-lethal weapon lets troops microwave hostile crowds |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
45. My tinfoil hat is coming out of obsolescence! |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. If you liked that, you'll love this. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Democracy 1, Iraqis 0. WTF has happened to Amurka.... eom. |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. A mess of an article |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Oh really? Well if you liked that, you'll love this. |
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Jonathan_Hoag (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 09:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. There you go again ... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
63. Certainly it's harmless... Just Like Depleted Uranium... Right? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
64. Don't overreact. They'll only use this crap on the Iraqis until |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-05 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
66. Sounds nasty...but it proably better than |
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