Bigoted Anti-Mexican E-mail making the rounds

[heidiho]

Received this from a right-wing friend. America, Land of the Tolerant, huh??? ( Now I have to write back to the originator and scream at him.) I volunteer with local immigrants and refugees in this community so this makes me even madder that my "friend" would send this on to me.

TRY THIS

- Enter MEXICO illegally. Never mind immigration quotas, visas, international law, or any of that nonsense

- Once there, demand that the local government provide free medical care for you and your entire family.


- Demand bilingual nurses and doctors.


- Demand free bilingual local government forms, bulletins, etc. Procreate abundantly.


- Deflect any criticism of this allegedly irresponsible reproductive behavior with, "It is a cultural United States thing. You would not understand, pal."


- Keep your American identity strong. Fly Old Glory from your rooftop, or proudly display it in your front window or on your car bumper.


- Speak only English at home and in public and insist that your children do likewise.


- Demand classes on American culture in the Mexican school system.


- Demand a local Mexican driver license. This will afford other legal rights and will go far to legitimize your unauthorized, llegal, presence in Mexico.


- Insist that local Mexican law enforcement teach English to all its officers.

Good luck! You'll be demanding for the rest of time or soon be dead. Because it will never happen. It will not happen in Mexico or any other country in the world... except right here in the United States... Land of the naive!

If you agree, pass it on. If you don't, go ahead and try the above in Mexico

[latteromden]

1. They want immigrants to NOT speak Spanish at home and in public?!

What the hell? That's ridiculous. I speak Norwegian at home and in public, and every single member of my family currently living was born and raised in the US. Let them speak their own goddamned language. (Sorry, that's one of those things that just really pisses me off: "If you don't speak English, get out of the country." Um, no.)

[beyurslf]

2. Is Mexico or the US known as the melting pot of the world? Which is the

envy of the world? Which is the democracy that sets the example for other fledgling democracies? Which welcomes the poor masses? Which country?

I guess maybe it shouldn't be US anymore. :(

[antigone382]

3. Isn't that sort of what we did in Texas?

We ended up stealing half their country from them, and now we get pissed off when they're poor and they want to come here to work.

[elehhhhna]

15. It's EXACTLY what we did to Texas! Good catch!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

16. Thank You!

The whole Texas fiasco is just another reason I love Lincoln. People say that the U.S. paid Santa Anna fair and square. Right. He was a crook. If Bush sold YOUR home without your consent wouldn't you be a little pissed off?

[Bouncy Ball]

4. This is all SO damn untrue.

Anyone who writes this doesn't know a SINGLE immigrant, illegal or otherwise, because if they did, they'd know that:

a) they DEMAND nothing. We PROVIDE forms in two languages, we PAY BILINGUAL employees MORE for being able to speak two or more languages and there is NOTHING wrong with being able to speak more than one language (in fact, I think it's pretty cool). We PROVIDE the medical care because it'd be HEARTLESS and CRUEL to turn away injured and ill people in need of care. Doctors are doctors, they aren't border patrol officers and they take an oath to "first, do no harm..."

b) remember that little thing called freedom of expression? It's why they are allowed to fly the Mexican flag when and where they want. And I don't exactly see a lot of that here in TEXAS, where you'd think I'd see just TONS of them.

c) the idea that they "procreate abundantly" is also mostly myth. They've found that, while first generation immigrants (LEGAL AND OTHERWISE!!) do tend to have larger families than the American norm, the SECOND generation tends to have families much closer to the average for here. That increases with each generation. Besides, I don't remember any laws about family size.

d) Who is demanding classes on the Mexican culture in the American school system??? LOL! We can't even afford TEXTBOOKS, you asshole. How could that possibly happen?

e) So he wants people driving around without a driver's license? Ummm, ok.

f) I do not EVER see this attitude of demanding or "you wouldn't understand my culture." Again this person obviously doesn't know a single Hispanic immigrant. Seriously. I know I am engaging in a bit of a generalization here myself, but if anything, I have always seen a very open, gracious attitude. A VERY grateful attitude. They are, on the whole, some of the most humble people I have ever had the great fortune to know.

g) I saved the language thing for last to tell a very revealing story. When I was teaching middle school, I noticed something a bit disturbing among my students: they would DENY they knew Spanish even when I knew they did. Yeah. I knew their parents spoke Spanish, I knew they were in ESL classes just the year before, and they still spoke English with an ACCENT, but they'd tell me "I don know no espanish, miss." If they did admit to knowing Spanish, they were made fun of by OTHER HISPANIC STUDENTS and called things like "mojo."

GUESS WHERE THEY GOT THAT ATTITUDE?? ASSHOLES LIKE THE GUY WHO WROTE THAT EMAIL.

Whereas being bilingual would help them get a job and a better paying one at that, they are in a big fucking hurry to LOSE their Spanish, to LOSE their accent, and to LOSE every single semblance of "Mexican-ness" they have. One boy I had was named "Jaime" but he insisted it was pronounced like "Jamie" not Hi-mee. How sad is that?

And the Spanish-speaking parents? THEY NEVER CAME TO SCHOOL. They were too embarrassed that they couldn't speak anything but broken English and were totally intimidated. And I don't exactly see a lot of fucking right wingers VOLUNTEERING TO TEACH THEM ENGLISH (you assholes!). No they use all their time to BITCH about them. God, what fuckwads.

I teach an adult English class on Wednesday nights. I invite any right wing bigoted asshole who thinks they REFUSE to learn English to come sit in on one of these classes, where I have women who, when they first meet you, extend their hand and meekly apologize for the roughness of it. They wash dishes for a living, you see, and are ashamed of the hard work they do.

Motherfucking right wing assholes. That really burns me the hell up.

One woman in my class last Wednesday CRIED because she understood a whole paragraph in English. CRIED her eyes out, she was so happy.

Oh and when you write your friend back, ask him to move to another country and learn the language PRONTO or be the object of SCORN.

Another thing: write him back in Espanol.

Fucker.

[Momgonepostal]

8. What a great response!

:yourock:

[heidiho]

14. Thanks for your great response - I'm cutting and pasting

as we speak to the originator of the e-mail (I am choosing to leave out the f words - just to be a little more civil although this is how I feel)

Well, another friend will be lost to me but who the hell cares.

Hitting Reply All!!!

[shrike]

20. Obviously this person never met an immigrant

from Mexico. They are the hardest working people I have ever seen. I think they bring this work ethic with them from Mexico, since I've visited that country and been impressed by the industrious of its citizens.

[amazona]

5. a suggestion

In future maybe it would be best not to quote the entire text of the offending email. Just a line or two to give us an idea of where it's going. Don't give people who hate more free publicity. Over and over again, I see people re-publishing the entire text of freep-mails. It would be better to block the sender than to post the entire piece of garbage and give it more play on the internet.

In response to your friend's idiocy -- I think it would be difficult to enter Mexico "illegally" since they seem to welcome me and plenty of other Americans there without checking any information about me whatsoever when I visit. They already have lots of great bilingual medical workers, this is what draws so many medical tourists from the U.S. to border towns of Mexico. There are entire expatriot communities where Americans live speaking English and enjoying the Mexican climate, culture, and inexpensive medical care, so I don't even know where this dude is coming from. I doubt anyone is trying to stop him from moving to Mexico if he has any kind of decent monthly income. More likely he is just slamming Mexico without knowing diddly about it.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[Horse with no Name]

6. Dead serious here

Where does one find these expatriot communities?

[Bridget Burke]

18. Many expatriates live near Guadalajara....

Others live in beach communities or in other old Colonial towns....

Mexico is home to about 700,000 U.S. and Canadian citizens who have decided to exchange hectic cities, frigid temperatures and high living costs for a more relaxed, warmer and inexpensive lifestyle. Some live in Mexico year-round, while many others come to Mexico to escape the harsh winters back home.

Common destinations include the colonial city of Guadalajara or along the nearby Lake Chapala; the beach towns of Acapulco, Colima, Cuernavaca, La Paz, Mazatlan, Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta; and the colonial cities of Guanajuato, Merida, Morelia, Oaxaca, Puebla, Queretaro and San Miguel de Allende.

www.visitmexicopress.com/backgrounders03.asp?bgID=10

Living near Guadalajara would give you proximity to a large city--with shopping, hospitals, etc. The weather is delightful--not too cold in the winter & not too hot in the summer.

[DrWeird]

7. I disagree.

I think it's good to post the whole thing. There's that other post about the racist letter to blacks, and apparently there's debate about whether or not it was racist. If the whole thing hadn't been posted, the part where the author refers to black men as "boys" could have been left out.

[never cry wolf]

9. Don't forget to remind them this is an anti-shrub letter...

the boy king loves that cheap labor, all his buddies need landscapers and housekeepers.

Remember, he want's to legalize the illegals and make it easier for them to get in.

[Garbo 2004]

11. Exactly. It's a source of cheap labor and that's the way they like it.

Which is why there isn't a real serious effort to crack down on illegal immigration (not just Mexicans btw), much less the businesses and people that hire them.

[ultraist]

12. Good point! Make sure they understand, they are defying their cult leader

By being anti immigrant.

Whoever wrote that, is one ethnocentric, hateful, sick fuck.

[peacetalksforall]

10. You can hear some of those talking points from Wash Journal callers.

It's like clock work. Stern. Angry. Perfect cadence. No 'ah's' as you would get with someone thinking spontaneously.

[ultraist]

13. I hear the same racist BS from the lower to mid income Repukes

The higher income Repukes seem to support Bush's plan (according to articles I've read). They like the idea of not getting busted for having a cheap housekeeper or lawn service. Bush even mentioned that in one of his first Press ops! I had to laugh! How fucking stupid of him to highlight how this benefits the wealthy and then roll right into how this is a human rights plan. Bull fucking shit! If this was a human rights plan, he would put the squeeze on Mexico to stop treating their people like dirt.

Forbes magazine had an article a couple of months ago that was pro Bush's plan. Big Corporations profit immensely off of this cheap labor.

I volunteered a few years ago with some Mexican families and they really do get treated like dirt here and in Mexico. It's pathetic. But, by the same token, we do need reasonable caps.

[Norquist Nemesis]

17. The latest TP I heard was a nuanced "they'll poison our food supply"

:crazy:

Last week, on one of the corporate conglomerate news interviews, the interviewee was spewing outrage at the illegal immigrants that "we" so carelessly allow access to handling our crops and food. It was both amazing and galling to watch. And yet...I'm sure the Illegal immigrants=Mexicans handle food=threat=terrorists is being injected into the *ahem* debate as the next thing we need to fear most. *sigh*

ummm....How many Mexicans were members of al Queda, Hamas, Islamic Jihad...?

[William Bloode]

19. Some folks see it this way.

Sad but true. Many are starting to feel very threatened, especially now that illegals are in direct competition for jobs many citizens want and need.

It's going to get worse i suspect if something is not done. I don't blame immigrants for looking for a better life, but that does not mean i want droves of them driving down wages, nor competing for a job i need.

I had a bad patch i fought myself over with this issue. Not long after my last job was outsourced i got found myself in competition. I was also turned down for several jobs in favor of a Hispanic. I cannot begin to tell you the anger you feel in your heart and soul when you are broke, no money for the basics and you get told at an interview you are over qualified(i am only a high school grad) for the job that they just gave to the man who cannot even speak English, and needed a translator to even fill out the application.

I am happy to announce after much, much thought i don't blame Hispanics at all. I do however blame the government and corporations who allow this to happen.