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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:45 PM
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The Danger of The Fundamentalists... the end of the world.
(Reposted fer you, lady.)

The Real War.


The Human Race is in jeopardy. Currently, a vast war is raging unseen below the surface of our consciousness.

We believe we are engaged in conflicts for many different reasons and under the impetus of many ideals. For the most part, this is true.
We are at war in the Middle East for a number of reasons depending upon whom you ask. We are at war here at home over issues of freedom, happiness, and values.
We are at war with economic forces that will spell our demise as a nation unless we all become economic warriors with the understanding that triage may become a very real necessity.

But there is a greater war, one from which all of these symptoms arise. It is the War for the salvation or obliteration of the human race.

I have come to understand, through study of human nature and human consciousness, just what fate humanity has mapped out for itself. I have come to describe my theory as “The Human Omega”.
No one can argue that humans are not an ambitious species. In fact, we know very well that humanity will ALWAYS reach for what it perceives to be within it’s grasp. It is because of this that we have come so far as a species.
We have the capacity to become so much more than we are, and that is precisely what we have done for millennia. We will reach forward to grasp new concepts, new ideas, and new technologies we are not now even capable of imagining. We will take hold of our own evolution. Whether it takes one hundred years, one thousand, one million… it does not matter; it WILL happen.
I have no doubt that left to explore and flourish humanity will attain transcendence tantamount to true divinity. We will become our own God, made in our image and vice-versa.
Our descendants will become masters of time, space, and consciousness.

All we need do is survive.

One of the greatest hallmarks of the human race is the retention of knowledge. As we acquire the technology to retain information we utilize it – immediately.

Perhaps you are reading this on a website – imagine the amount of information that site backs up and retains. There may be a Library of Congress’ worth of posts, threads and information held in the server memory and backed up for permanent storage.
Now… think of how much information was stored only thirty years ago - A fraction of a fraction of what we store today. How will we preserve everything we want to?

Our divine descendants may well deal with that too, but their methods know no boundaries we can imagine. As masters of time, space, consciousness, and perhaps a number of other media we cannot imagine, why not save EVERYTHING?

The trend toward this human destiny is utterly inexorable. Having studied how the human race reaches in all directions around the globe and ever further into the farthest reaches of space, into the future and farther into the past to understand the origin of life on earth. As we delve ever deeper into ourselves, into our intricate intellectual makeup, into our genetic composition, there can be no question we will one day achieve divinity.

Should there exist even a shred of human curiosity in our descendants, (Considering curiosity drove them, I imagine more than a shred will persevere.) they will most likely preserve every consciousness that has ever existed.
Everything will be preserved, perhaps they will have no need for machines, or their machines are woven into the very fabric of the universe; but every event, every dream, every thought, every blade of grass ever to exist, everything from the very beginning of time until the end will be forever preserved in living memory.

If this seems far-fetched to you, try to explain an automobile to a Neanderthal.
I don’t understand how these things would work any more than he would understand what makes a Porsche run… but he can understand what it does. Function is not hard to grasp.

So when a consciousness passes from life, that consciousness will find absolute access to every bit of knowledge, every event, and every perspective in the universe.
When you die, you will come to know everything, and to be anything.
This is the gift our children can give us, our descendants, with the impetus to preserve gifted to them by our common nature, will preserve all ever was and will be.
The vast loop of the continuum will be closed, linear time will become meaningless, and we BECOME divine… We achieve the Human Omega.
For all intents and purposes – this may already be the case given that time is not linear.
We cannot know what philosophy our descendants will operate on, we can only know that we will not know or understand it until we rejoin the Omega Consciousness. We can pretend all we want to be right or moral, but there will certainly be more to the truth than second-guessing the will of God.

This brings us to the Great Fear.

There is no question that we are in pain. We witness the atrocities we visit upon each other, the tortures, the injustices... so much pain.
It is said that those who do evil do so because they are in pain.
One cannot imagine a pain they have not felt, but, in some fashion or another, they experience the pain they have caused.
This then becomes a cycle; The Tormentor is in pain because of the pain he has caused. He does not realize that his pain is self-loathing; he cannot understand his masochism – for he is immediately aware of his victim’s agony. He seeks to cause pain to punish himself. The Tormentor turns his pain back into anger that seeks to inflict pain once again.
This pain is unfathomable, but it does not merely reside in the individual, it pervades the human super-, sub-, and unconscious. It is passed around from person to person, culture to culture, generation to generation.
Like a virus, this pain begets itself perpetually; it will not perish until we rise above it.

Just like Jesus said.

But ‘it’ does not want that.
Without getting into Human Superconscious Theory, this is best explained by saying that this vast human suffering has taken on a life of it’s own. Somewhere in the interface between this vast suffering and human empathy, there has evolved a disturbing dissonance, which has yielded a self-sustaining entity.
Pain begets not only pain, but the methods of its continuation as well.

There is an operative effect on the human psyche because of this pain. There is fear.
This fear is so deeply embedded in our racial subconscious that it too has a ‘life of it’s own’.
The fear is of spending eternity with the pain we have caused.

We know that there are one of two ultimate outcomes for the human race.

One is the transcendence of humanity by constant growth and enlightenment.

The other is absolute Oblivion

The pain we are in are the cumulative screams of millions upon millions tortured alive, the tears of a child who didn’t want to die hungry the day the death squad came, the mother putting a plastic shopping bag over the head of her baby to futilely try to save it from the poison gas as she succumbs to a rasping death.
There is a great awareness of this horrific torment, both in the victims, and in the tormentors.

This is a pain so great it begs for Oblivion. To forget forever, to have never been is it’s only desire.

This pain has been at war with our destiny for thousands of years.

Should the Human Race survive, this pain will be preserved forever in the consciousness of The Human Omega.
Should the Human Race be extinguished, there will be no Human Omega, and we will all descend into the soft, eternal nothingness of oblivion.

This vicious agony has not sat still and waited for us to extinguish ourselves, nay – it has spent countless centuries engineering our demise.
Through the human subconscious it has worked to trigger our own undoing, and these are the times it has been brought to bear.

Being so imaginative, we have tried to devise methods to explain the world around us with little or no empirical rational.
Religion was one of those methods.
When we developed empathy as a race, we had to find a way to justify taking the life of a screaming animal for our own sustenance. We developed more humane means of doing so and also ‘told ourselves’ that a higher power said it was ok to do so.

Our survival was that ‘higher power’; we called it ‘God’.

But we took religion, which has roots in Human Superconscious understanding, too far.
We let the pain in.
Pain and Religion don’t mix.

We created the ‘Deadly Meme’ of our own destruction.
There can be no doubt that the anger of ‘fire and brimstone’ and the ‘Wrath of God’ was not written out of enlightenment, but rather out of the realization that there was so much wrong… so much pain. These writings had such beauty and wisdom, they were accepted as carte blanche and absolute truth, and therein lay the danger.

For over a thousand years, huge portions of the human race have invested their faith in stories that tell them they will be favored when all else perish in fire.
They read that if they did ‘this’ and believed ‘that’, they would be given such rewards they cannot imagine. And so the faithful have divested themselves of human conscience, the precursor of faith, to acquire those rewards.
Such a powerful impetus as faith extends far beyond and much deeper than the empirical actions of the faithful, however.

This notion of the ‘end of the world’ has been invested in by so many, over such a period of time, and with such fervor – it may be impossible to stop it.

Because of a number of books written from the perspective of this pain, we may not survive as a race.

This belief in the end of the world has fueled the actions of so many of our leaders. They are so certain Armageddon is upon us that they have no intention of preserving our resources or our restraint. They have been fooled into believing that their actions are divine and that the destruction of the Human Race has no impact on achieving divinity.

The greatest deceiver has deceived them. The very thing they believe they are waging war against has fooled them.

They will go to any lengths to carry out its will by lashing out at the agony and creating more. This cycle will wind itself into a literal firestorm of extinguishing rage.

We must not allow these things to occur, we must not allow our leaders to take us into a holy war in this age of mass destructive capability.

For then surely we will embrace oblivion.




-Dr. Garth Eldritch
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:53 PM
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1. True
Fundies are scared they may be wrong. If they make a theocracy, force us to be Christians, they'll force the rest of the world to be Christian. If Jesus doesn't return, they'll panic and launch nuclear weapons to destroy all life on this planet.

I'd like to thank the writer of Revelations for making Christianity a religion of hate and cause of the extinction of humanity. I just hope aliens can salvage our knowledge and forgive homo sapien for taking teachings of peace and use them for war and self-destruction.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:02 PM
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11. Good point about aliens...
Say... If we were to evolve for another million years, or better yet... take our evolution into our own hands...

What do you think our hyperintelligent progeny might look like?



"If you can bend space, you can bend time"
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:17 AM
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23. Jesus Never Forced Anyone
To follow Him. He never went door to door, either. He's never forced His beliefs on anyone, but He warned those who wanted to listen "there will be false christs and false prophets, performing signs and wonders, to deceive the very elect, if possible".
There's A LOT of truth in the first post, IMO, based on what I've learned in my life experiences.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:26 PM
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38. Since
Jesus didn't go door to door or force people to listent o him, why are Evangelicals so convinced to do so? If Jesus would let people be, that'd be a good way to go. Afterall, it's our actions that show our character, not our words (I'm scrwed lol).
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Liberal_Andy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:57 PM
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2. That's pretty deep, Dr. Garth!
I thought you were talkin' 'bout this:

http://www.endofworld.net/


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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:55 PM
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6. uhhh....
no comment
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:23 PM
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41. One of my ALL-TIME
FAVORITES!!! "I'm le tired!"
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:23 AM
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40. Holy shit that's funny.
:D
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:15 PM
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3. The Christian religion as commonly known and which has
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 07:20 PM by Malva Zebrina
become a power (or a victim) of this Bush administration, is a fascist cult.

It has developed to that point and it alone will bring Christianity down, more than any atheist--who by the way, do not seek to bring any religion down.

This Christian religion is a cult, is wrong, but has taken over the sheep who have not been privy to reason and logic and subsist upon fear of death to herd their sheep into a pen.

It is the fear of death--the becoming a nothing , that these fearful cannot abide.

If they do NOT subscribe to the cult, they, after death, will suffer the fires of a mythological "hell"

So, no matter how they must kill, or murder, or subscribe to violence upon other human beings to save themselves from the abject reality that death is death and after death, they become nothing, they will do it.

You know, once you accept that death is final, and that one has only a limited time here on earth to do good or to leave something of value to the next upcoming generation, one is the most free person in the universe! FREE

It has become the preaching of the preachers in the pulpit , who most certainly do know that what they preach is inconsistent , who certainly do know , if they have any sanity at all and any ability to reason, that drive the cults.

The others, such as Rushdooney, are simply mad.

Preachers are not honest. They prey upon the fears of the human being who cannot accept that death is final. They know, if they have any intelligence, that inconsistencies abound, yet they preach it, Sunday after Sunday, and some interject ritual, incense and mysticism into it to prove that, indeed, they are preaching "religion" in order to "save" the people who fear, most of all fears, death and nothingness.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:52 PM
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8. I quite accept that we may face oblivion...
In which case, I might choose to hold out hope that Humanity may achieve divinity in our distant future.

The simple fact is, If I'm wrong- then I won't know or care because that is the nature of oblivion.

But if I'm right...
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:28 PM
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33. Pascals wager
and it has been thoroughly debunked.

That's OK, though if that is your faith and I won't argue the point.

I have simply accepted that death is final and have never felt so untethered and free.
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:31 PM
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4. Have the "Dominionists" been over-hyped?
Agreed these are a suicidal bunch of fanatics, but I don't see any overt evidence that they are taking over. When things start to resemble the world of "The Handmaiden's Tale" then people will sit up and take notice.

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:10 PM
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18. Well, considering that ..
Gary Bauer, one of the signers of the PNAC "statement of Principles", runs the "Family Research Council" which is a PAC supported wholly by the dominionist James Dobson's "Focus on the Family" organization.

And Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie and Jeb also signed it, One has to wonder if they've been hyped enough.

-Hoot

P.S. Party on Garth!

P.P.S. Apologies to the good Dr., I just had to say it.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:41 PM
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5. The 'third temple' dispensationalists are causing quite a stir
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 07:47 PM by EVDebs
Christian Zionism, Evangelicals and Israel, by Gary M. Burge, Ph.D.
http://www.hcef.org/hcef/index.cfm/ID/159

shows us that there is an error in the theology of these dispensationalists:

""But the most important critique - and here I think we discover the Achilles' heel - is that Christian Zionism is committed to what I term a "territorial religion." It assumes that God's interests are focused on a land, a locale, a place. From a NT perspective, the land is holy by reference to what transpired there in history. But it no longer has an intrinsic part to play in God's program for the world. This is what Stephen pointed to in his speech in Acts 7. The land and the temple are now secondary. God's wishes to reveal himself to the entire world. And this insight cost Stephen his life. Such an understanding is a far cry from the views of Christian Zionists like Ed McAteer who recently commented, "Every grain of sand, every grain of sand between the Dead Sea, the Jordan River, and the Mediterranean Sea belongs to the Jews." Stephen would be alarmed.""

Religion and Ethics Newsweekly
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week319cover.html
"Impact of Millenium on the Holy Land" shows us the Third Temple prophesies power to effect decisionmaking in the Middle East.
""Mr. SALOMON: ... and gave it to me and said to me, "Take it to Jerusalem for the rebuilding of the house of God."

LAWTON: But there's a problem. The site is already occupied, and has been for more than a millennium, by Muslim holy places. Salomon says they must be removed, but he doesn't like to be asked how.

Mr. SALOMON: Everyone is asking me this question, you know. People like to hear that I would say, "Oh, we shall explode the buildings." And it is not a fair question.""


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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:58 PM
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10. Blymie! nt
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 07:59 PM
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7. Sup Doc.
While some will say the End is impossible. Others will say: "It is inevitable." --The Matrix's Agent Smith

I say, the second we get the space program going and we get to mars and other space colonies, then pretty much all the fucking limp fanatics will just have to play with themselves in their caves. No?

Beam me up Doc,...err Scotty. Whoever...just hurry up.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 08:56 PM
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9. Coarse... but of course you're right.
If we get the hell off planet, we have a better chance at survival as a race.
All us eggs are pretty much in one basket right now.

Read Stephen Baxter, "Manifold Time"
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:13 PM
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13. The reason they're dangerous is because....
"Their beliefs are bonkers, but they are at the heart of power
US Christian fundamentalists are driving Bush's Middle East policy"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1195568,00.html

When you tie in the dispensationalists' fixation on the Third Temple and restoration of 'greater Israel', you realize that they are playing with fire (some would say 'not playing with full decks').

Jesus has been hijacked by extremist "Left Behind" fanaticism just as Islam has been hijacked by extremist wahab fanaticism seeking to restore the califate.

Jesus was after all seeking not an earthly kingdom but a heavenly one. That seems to get you killed no matter what era you live in it seems to me.

One other thought. Why do dispensationalists want to speed the appearance of the anti-christ ? The only reason the anti-christ is to appear is to sit in the Third Temple anyway. No Third Temple....well, you get the idea.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:13 AM
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39. Christian Reconstructionist
are a looney-toons lot with control of MUCH TOO MUCH $$$$$. If you like to set your head a-spinnin' check out Rushdoony, Bauer, Ahmanson, Weyrich and their entanglements. :scared:
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:11 PM
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12. You mistake consciousness with technology
Our philosophy and understanding of being human is no greater than it was two thousand years ago. Our addiction to technology makes us believe all previous generations to be inferiors, when in fact we have less free time, less quality education, and MORE fundamentalist religion in this country today than when it was founded.

The pre-European Civilized Tribes of the United States are estimated to have had a greater average life span than we enjoy today, with comparatively no disease.

But we have technology! Marvelous technology we believe makes our lives easier. Do you know the human cost of the fine black sand that makes the silicon that produces the microchips that feed our technological hunger?

If you study the implications of our advances in neuroscience and hormonal makeup of brain function, you would see the Tibetan Book of the Dead had it all figured out millennia ago.

If you study the geopolitical and social march of progress you see pre-canonization papal biblical discussion had a lot figured out millennia ago.

As our technology moved forward, our understanding has moved backward. But at least now we have global warming.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:19 PM
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15. Question
"The pre-European Civilized Tribes of the United States are estimated to have had a greater average life span than
we enjoy today, with comparatively no disease."

Could you give me a reference on that one?

I could see where they, being in harmony with their environment, would be happier than we(or at least the men, women still being subjugated in many tribes, so, not happier) but not healthier or living as long/longer. That sounds like a romanticism of the primative to me. But I could well be wrong. I would just like to see the evidence.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:03 AM
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22. There is no need to romanticize the primitive
when it comes to the more sophisticated tribal cultures of pre-European America.

The last surviving indigenous example is the Kogi of S America. Their story is extraordinary. But, N America had several equally remarkable cultures of centuries ago.

The Iroquois Nation, Lakota Nation, The Delaware, Paiute, Suquamish tribes etc...all lived in relative health and harmony. Our popular view of their lives is not very accurate. As the term 'primitive' would attest.


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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:22 AM
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26. I could give you many
but try "lies my teacher told me" a great place to start. A huge selection of footnotes on this controversial chapter.

I also suggest Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, and Trail of Tears.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:46 PM
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17. No my friend... I believe in PRD.
"Procreative Racial Deconstruction"

You see, the more we procreate from divergent genetic backgrounds, the more advantages we realize.

As we evolve as a singular race, we become more complex and advantageous than every preceeding generation was.

Just wait till we take hold of our own evolution and fuck that up!

.lol.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:31 AM
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27. were it only true
The speed at which we now mix, match and marry combined with our compassion to compensate for the challenged has removed half of the evolution equation. We have the genetic mutation, but not the cull. The negative traits survive directly alongside the positive.

Our environment as well transforms at a pace now greater than the process can manifest... thus the great unease of our time.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:23 AM
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24. You are absolutely right.
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 12:25 AM by indigobusiness
Good point, well made.

We have forgotten the importance of living within our organic needs and let ourselves be so dazzled by the toys of technology that we rush around serving the advancement of technology rather than the development, or even sustenance, of our culture.

We build things we don't need and trick ourselves into thinking that we can't live without them, at least until we possess them long enough to throw them away. We allow ourselves to be suckered into buying into the technologies of built-in obsolescence, instead of insisting on an end to that game.

I suspect that transported men from a millenium ago would say "What...? Are you fucking crazy?" and put a stop to this madness. Sadly, we won't do it on our own. We're addicted, and need our fix. Maybe we need this tango with apocalypsers to scare us straight?
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:42 AM
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28. Your maddeningly hypnotic animating gif
shows you on a path away from addictive consumption, and your posts always convey your optimistic and non-judgmental humanity.

America was on your path once before, with great interest just a few years ago in exploring the concepts of multi-denominational faith. Where did that go? Did the dot-com economic wave just eat it?
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:32 AM
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29.  My " maddeningly hypnotic animating gif"
is resonating a basic prayer: Om Mani Padme Hum.



His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, has said that having the mantra on your computer works the same as a traditional Mani wheel. As the digital image spins around on your hard drive, it sends the peaceful prayer of compassion to all directions and purifies the area.




I'm curious as to why you find it maddening? Not to make to much of that, but it is a curious choice of words. But, your words are always well-considered by me. I often find myself rereading your posts to fully absorb the meaning and message. It seems to me you have a mature, and well-centered, perspective.

As far as optimism goes, I'm optimistic in the human potential, but pessimistic of the products of human frailty.

The idea, that a material boom could drown a burgeoning swell of spiritual American interest, is telling. And frightening. It makes a whore of the culture...and ultimately, of us all.
---

http://www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/digital-wheels.htm
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:29 PM
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34. These two are even better
perhaps it's maddening because it screams that none of this is important just as I try to type words to the effect that it is.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:33 PM
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35. Ah, yes. I see, now.
Which two?

Nothing is as it seems, nor is it otherwise.

-Buddha
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:14 PM
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36. Also, I can't take my eyes off the animation ;)
om-mani-padma-hum.gif is particularly beautiful, and prwhbl2-.gif is very elegant.

The pyramid is your memorial for Khephra, isn't it?
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:28 PM
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37. Yep
They are all nice. I like the idea of them functioning practcally as prayer wheels in a virtual manifestation.





Yes, this little pyramid gif was one I made in Paint, before I gave up handed off the project to Pastiche. It deserved a more professional touch. But the little one serves its purpose ok.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 09:47 PM
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14. Dr. Eldritch, Your my new Hero
Great post btw. I have a question for you Dr., are you a professor or something? if so what college?, I would want to go there!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 10:40 PM
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16. Just in case you're being a smartass....
How the hell am I "your new hero"?

(I'm an old curmudgeon... forgive me.)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:29 PM
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19. I took you for a Dr. of Philosophy, but could easily be wrong...
I would like to know also. At 44 I'm looking forward to my curmudgeonhood.

-Hoot
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:58 PM
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21. Not being one
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 11:59 PM by WLKjr
I just added you to the list of people I think are pretty awesome so to speak.

BTW, there's nothing wrong with being old and stubborn ;)
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:27 PM
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32. He was just wanting to show off his understanding of
contractions and pronouns.
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 11:52 PM
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20. i just have to say this has been one interesting forum
thank you for giving me something to think about all nite...and for a long time afterward. thats some great philosophizing.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:29 AM
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25. Global Consciousness Project
I would be interested to know what you make of this?

http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126649#121



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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:42 AM
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30. That is a phenomenal study with remarkable results...
to say the least.

The graphic spike from their sensors just prior to 911 nail it down.

I'd recommend anyone interested in being fully alive and aware to look into this. Follow the links at the bottom of the superb article.

Thanks for posting this.

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/
http://www.princeton.edu/
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:19 PM
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31. Yes, the Global consciousness project.
Very good link.

I have believed for quite some time that the human mind is so powerful a processor, that it can extrapolate a nearly infinite amount of information into a kind of 'space/time map'.

Like predicting the weather, the human mind processes the vast amount of information from all sources (light, temperature, wind, vibration and sound, environment, social disposition, economic environment, the pencil on the stairway... etc.,etc.... you get the idea.) and translates it to highly accurate predictions.

I call the means by which we come by this information "Human Superconscious Mechanics"
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