BREAKING ......"BIG" Gannon story coming tomorrow

[Bluebear]

on edit: I promise nothing, so don't get your hopes up, but I'm laying odds it's not something that Rove/McClellan and company banked on.

BIG Gannon story coming tomorrow
by John in DC - 2/13/2005 07:26:00 PM

I'm wrapping it up now. It's big. Very big. I've just contacted him for comment. If he now decides to go public to pre-empt my story, well, you heard it here first. Stay tuned.

http://www.americablog.org/
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JOHN ARAVOSIS ROCKS!!!! He is the mean ol' liberal blogger who Aaron Brown (CNN) said is "fueling" this "little" story about Gannon/Guckert. Can't wait!

[w13rd0]

1. If he (meaning "Gannon"/Guckert) decides to go public...

...we can beging the countdown clock.

[Bluebear]

3. I hope it involves more than Gannon/Guckert/HotMilitaryEscort4u

John said "Big. Very big." :)

[Pirate Smile]

49. Right - not sex or personal crap. We want the nasty propaganda

connections flying around in this WH. I couldn't care less about his personal life.

This is about the manipulation of the media and the American people.

[Cronus Protagonist]

68. Guckert voted for Kerry

And he gave a 10,000 donation to the DLC?

Not true, but it makes me smile to think of it :)


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[Pachamama]

105. Yeah, but Jeff Gannon voted and gave to Bush....n/t

[johnfunk]

75. On everyone's radar - select guesses (& snark) from AmericaBlog comments:

"Sex is fair game. Remember monica and the blue dress ?... do not play nice... remember the band-aids to make fun of Kerry getting wounded in Vietnam?"

"lessee - gannon is a bisexual and john has pics of jenna and notjenna in a threesome with gannon????"

"Hot, sweaty Guckert-on-Santorum-on-dog action? MilitaryPoontangExpressM4M.com credit card receipts signed by Ken Mehlwoman? Kinky polaroids of 'Gannon,' porn star Jeff Stryker and has-been Newt Gingrich in a hot tub sharing lobbying cash, a bottle of Cristal and a half dozen Thai Ladyboys?"


"I hope he was an overnight snugglebunny in Crawford!"

"Mangayte rocks!"

"Wait a minute. John contacted Guckert and is giving him a chance 'fess up? What do you think you are, John? A real journalist? </Mistah Kurtz>"

"Maybe he is waiting because tomorrow is Valentine's Day???"

[FreedomAngel82]

108. I can't wait to find out!!

I'm so curious now. I wanna hurry up and make it tomorrow so I can find out. Should be juicy!

[i miss america]

151. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be the smoking gun we desperately need!

[Scout1071]

2. EXCELLENT! KICK!

[papau]

245. Thank God for smart Greeks from Illinois like John Aravosis! :-)

:-)

:toast:

:-)

[NewJeffCT]

4. What a friggin' tease!

I hope this is bigger than Josh Marshall's infamous "tectonic plates" thingie from last summer.

[Bluebear]

5. A lot of research seems to have gone into it.

Fresh from his CNN appearance, Aravosis has been digging around on his blog. I make no guarantees but at least the story isn't going away. And breaking on a Monday to boot!

[kath]

86. What did the "tectonic plates" story turn out to be, anyway??

[Stirk]

6. Gannon is Deep Throat!

[Clark2008]

62. Oh, you said Gannon *IS* Deep Throat, not that Gannon knows

how to deep throat.

:silly:

Just being a nut to keep this thread kicked! :kick:

[Stirk]

83. LOL- I was wondering if anyone was going to swing at that.

It was one of those "insert innuendo here" sort of things, but I'm just no good at that. :D

[latteromden]

7. Man, I hate that. I'm impatient! :P

[Bluebear]

8. Me too. At least he is giving the "stud" time to comment

I hope he didn't stalk him on the way to "church". Bwahahaha.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

9. Homosexual affair with Karl Rove? that would be big.

[NewJeffCT]

13. I doubt that - my guess

If it really is big - it will be that Gannon was planted there by Rove as a safety for Bush and/or McClellan.

If it's really big it will be that Mr. X (Rove, Libby, Abrams, etc) was the one that showed the Plame memo to Gannon.

[peacebird]

16. LOL! (must bookmark this for monday!)

Please - let it be HUGE...

[tavalon]

99. Don't you mean "hugh"?

Oh, wait, this isn't freeperland. People here can spell. Nevermind.

[MADem]

148. Not unless it involves some White House staffer named

Hugh G. Rection....


(sorry....couldn't resist!!!)

[Spiffarino]

167. At the WH? More like "Hugh Jasshole"

:evilgrin:

[MADem]

178. Hahahahaha! Bravo!!! Brilliant!!! Kudos!!! n/t

[Pachamama]

18. Hmmm....likely, but if he talks, he'd be 6 ft under.....

My guess is it will be regarding the Plame case....or maybe that he was a plant on purpose?

If I were Gannon/Guckert, I'd hopefully be in a safe undisclosed location right now....

:scared:

[MADem]

61. I think that is why Jimmy-Jeff got out there after saying his farewell

The drama of "the voice has gone silent!" and next thing ya know, he's all over the media. He's dumb, but he ain't totally stupid. When you play the dirty tricks game, you have an idea of how it works. I think Jimmy-Jeff is trying to get out in front of this disaster, and cover his own ass. I think he got really scared, and that is why he got his face out there so that they wouldn't try to hit him with a bus--now, if they did that, it would look TOO SUSPICIOUS.

I'm wondering if he hasn't worked an IMMUNITY DEAL re: Wilson/Plame. Perhaps the kind folks over at the grand jury said "We're putting you in jail for tax evasion, but if you start singing, maybe we'll cut ya some slack!" If it isn't that, then it's something to do with those escort websites....or maybe a boyfriend in high places.

I hope it is newsworthy, this latest peel of the onion. John Aravosis has a good batting average, and if he puts the lamestream media to shame--YET AGAIN--they may as well just dig a hole and bury themselves, because his success will highlight their failure, their complicity with the corporate whores who own our government, and their sheer laziness.

Edit--sloppy spelling!

[Pachamama]

103. Jimmy-Jeff! Ha ha! That's funny! But who would he make a deal with?

Certainly not the Justice Department....No one there is going to want to prosecute anyone in the White House for releasing info to him about Plame....so I can't see an Immunity Deal from them....

The name "Jimmy-Jeff" is funny...I remember seeing in an interview Gannon claiming that the reason he chose a "Pseudonym" of Jeff Gannon instead of his real given name, James Guckert, is that because it was easier to say....DUH...If that was true, then why not be "James Gannon" or "Jim Gannon"....(versus changing the first name too?)...atleast that way if he was walking down the street and he's with someone who knows him as "Jim Guckert" no one from the media comes running up and goes "Jeff", then it wouldn't be awkward....The guy is not the brightest crayon in the box....

PS: Who is John Aravosis? I assume that his blog is the "America Blog"...good stuff....just wondered when you said he had a good batting average what else he's turned up before....

Well MadDem...I hope that this thread post isn't a teaser and there truly is something juicy tommorrow.... :hi:

[MADem]

146. A whole pile of people have been to see Patrick Fitzgerald!!!

Maybe they just didn't ask the RIGHT questions, and Jimmy-Jeff, knowing his health and life were at risk, volunteered the info. Or maybe Fitzgerald smelled something, perhaps based on an earlier questioning of Jimmy-Jeff (the FBI questioned him last year, but he said he has not YET testified before the Grand Jury), and offered immunity (Did he perjure himself to the FBI? Inquiring minds want to know!) and maybe even easy treatment re: the tax arrears. In addition to all of the journalists, they've questioned Gonzales, Rove, http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,724804,00.html , Powell http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5570006/site/newsweek/ , they've even deposed the weecowboy! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3668-2004Jun24.html

But they've all either got their stories straight, or the precise question that would pull the string and unravel the garment of deceit was never posed. Maybe, once the Gannon shit starting getting traction, Fitzgerald figured he'd better move now or be shut down by Gonzalez permanently once he got settled in at Justice.

OR....maybe someone in Fitzgerald's office (or at the FBI?) had a hand in pushing Jimmy-Jeff out into the light. I mean, how the hell did this happen so swiftly? The slug has been hanging around the press room for over a year...so WHY NOW????

And think about this--they were so eager, damn near DESPERATE, to get the Torturer in Chief, Alberto Gonzalez, confirmed, and were BULLSHIT when it was taking so long. Next thing ya know, here's all sorts of people who are suddenly interested in big mouth Jimmy-Jeff (the guy sat in the WH press briefings for a YEAR, but no one said anything before--what changed?). Then we have Alberto forced to recuse himself from the Plame investigation a few days ago, right as the Gannon affair was just starting to hit the fan--it was still under the wire as far as the lamestream media was concerned, but the net was already on it. It's almost as though he got to the party just a BIT too late... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2005/02/11/national/w142529S42.DTL

Then, you've got this assertion from back in June of last year:
Witnesses told a federal grand jury President George W. Bush knew about, and took no action to stop, the release of a covert CIA operative's name to a journalist in an attempt to discredit her husband, a critic of administration policy in Iraq.

Their damning testimony has prompted Bush to contact an outside lawyer for legal advice because evidence increasingly points to his involvement in the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame's name to syndicated columnist Robert Novak.

The move suggests the president anticipates being questioned by prosecutors. Sources say grand jury witnesses have implicated the President and his top advisor, Karl Rove. http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4629.shtml

Now, we can say, well, the guy running the investigation, Fitzgerald, must be on the take, he's a shill, whatever. But I'm not sold on that, at least not yet. Fitzgerald has one HELLUVA resume. He has been on the up and up since he graduated Harvard Law. He's been involved in a lot of high profile cases, across three administrations (Bush1, Clinton, and the current nitwit). He has a real OPPORTUNITY here to increase his profile and put himself in the public eye to run for major political office, if he does this fair and square. He has the opportunity, if he does this so that it is transparent, that justice is served, that the truth comes out, to write his own ticket. The country is in desperate need of truth, justice, and the American way...plus, he makes a fine appearance, he has a future in politics if he plays this fair and square.

This whole case reminds me of when AG Richardson refused to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the Nixon regime, and Nixon had to, in essence, do it himself (actually, I think he made Robert Bork, of failed Supreme Court nomination fame, do it). Everyone had bumper stickers that read "IMPEACH THE COX SACKER!"

It just has that feeling to me. I could be overly hopeful, but I hope I am right. This could be the domestic issue that ruins the weecowboy's plans for world domination! The bad news is, we'll all be choking on the phrase "President Cheney" for the next couple of years.

Check out the AMERICA BLOG archives...that guy is a bright light...and he's making a name for himself. I just checked his blog--he put up another teaser about Jimmy-Jeff...it's a close up of his WATCH...could it BEEEEEEEEEE.....???? PHOTOS??????? Oh, man, I'll bet he cracked those websites! You know, the ones that were password protected, but supposedly were obtained for another client and never used....? That would be SOMETHING!!!!!

Monica Lewinsky has got to be dancing for joy!!! Finally, SOMEONE to TAKE HER CROWN!!! At last, she can retire from being the designated sausage smoker in DC!

[merh]

176. Hey MADem, I just thought about it. When Jimmy-Jeff was

questioned by the FBI, it probably went something like this:

FBI Agent: You full name is?
Jimmy-Jeff: Jeff Gannon.

If he did not tell them he was Jim Guckert aka Jeff Gannon, he lied to them during the questioning which is a felony with a sentence of up to 5 years. Remember, Martha is doing her 5 months for telling the FBI agents a lie.

Wouldn't that be appropriate, the dominos begin to tumble based on the same crime Martha is doing time for.

[MADem]

179. Yep! They pushed him into a corner

...and wouldn't it be funny if someone from the FBI lit the fires to bring Jimmy-Jeff out into the light. A 21st century Deep Throat, as it were.

But you have to ask, why Gannon? Why would the administration trust this clown to be their shill? He's a NOBODY. A loser, who has never held regular jobs (maybe because he is a prostitute?) but seems to live quite well, who graduated school in 1980--which makes him about the right age to be a working boy around the time that Bush 1 White House sex scandal broke back in the late 80's...and funny, there are a lot of people who worked in poppy's administration that also work in weecowboy's...talk about a reference! Or blackmail....!

I think something that really STINKS to high heaven is about to be broken. What will be interesting is how the administration tries to spin it.

[KansDem]

238. I'm with you on this one!

I thought the same thing about JJ and the Bush Family. Could JJ have met GHW Bush during the "Franklin Coverup" and the "White House callboy scandal?" And could JJ have been introduced to George Jr. during this time?

[sellitman]

66. How about an affair with ...

bush the lesser? Now that would make my day.....err....week....err-ummm FRIGGIN YEAR!!!!!!!!!

Wooohooooooooooo!!!

:party:

[mattclearing]

100. A gay Monica Lewinsky scandal?

Now THAT would be something, now wouldn't it?

I think several media anchor persons' heads would explode trying to report it.

[FreedomAngel82]

That would be funny

Then would the republicans impeach him? :eyes:

[mattclearing]

152. You know, they just might for that.

If the straight Presidential sex scandal was bad, just imagine a gay one.

Seriously, I think the media would implode.

[MADem]

263. The Republicans?????

They'd probably be trying to sort out where their place in line is to service the boyking...they'd be jostling for position!

In all seriousness, though, the only thing that might encourage them to desert the nitwit is if their constituents and contributors start complaining, LOUDLY. You know how it is in this America: no cash, no campaign...!

[Spacejet]

255. I love these posts

using someones sexuality as a weapon against them. Really let's you see peoples true colors.

[MADem]

264. It's not sexuality that is the issue, it's breaking the law

Prostitution, like it or not, is illegal in DC, DE, MD, VA, and DC. The "family values" misadministration is on the record as vehemently opposing it.

A known PROSTITUTE, who placed his nude photographs on the web to solicit customers, and who just happens to be homosexual, is allowed access to the White House after being credentialed as a 'reporter' for four scant days. The press secretary, who just recently married, was a well-known patron of a number of Austin TX gay bars.

Condi Rice and the rest of this misadministration probably wouldn't be able to "connect the dots," but anyone with normal intelligence could. It ain't rocket science. And seeing as Jimmy-Jeff used to be in the USMC reserves, and makes an issue of his military service on his escort sites, we aren't talking a blue dress, here, we're talking "dress blues."

[Straight Shooter]

10. Hot damn! Something to look forward to on a Monday.

:evilgrin:

[Bronco69]

11. I'm bookmarking this thread.

I hope I'm not getting my hopes up for nothing.

[johncoby2]

12. I sure hope this isnt as disappointing as my last girlfriend..

IWho knows, maybe Gannon will be found at the botom of a lake tonight.

[0007]

80. I sure as fuck ain't holding my breath!!

[ultraist]

14. I wonder WHAT it is...

[BrotherBuzz]

15. Tease me, damn you...LOL

Should Rove et al be squirming?

[babsbunny]

212. YOU CAN BE SURE

SOMETHING "BIG" WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEWS NOW. SOMRTHING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS BIG STORY!!!!!!!

[BrotherBuzz]

236. So what do they do, flip a coin?

North Korea or Iran? Oh wait, there's Venezuela, too...So many evils, so little time. ;)

[peacetalksforall]

17. Funny...Aaron Brown says a blogger is fueling this little story??????

If the news is about-
. Plame - I have no guesses yet.
. is about being a fake journalist.....Yawn, unless the WH has decided to rotate a press pass for left wing bloggers.
. is about Gannon's sideline...the message from the saintly Republicans, knowing their arrogance, must be thisL

We are perfect...We can have our gays and gay pimps, but you....you lefties are IMMORAL no matter what you do and you must accept that we are hypocrites and can condemn you on worldwide television.

[Bluebear]

19. Not only that but Brown said it was "unseemly"

to go after someone's personal life, and wasn't there a "so what?" wuality to this story?

[Jacobin]

25. Yes, 'unseemly', whereas the reporting of a presidential blow job

is, of course, noble and courageous.

FUcking pos

[progressiveandproud]

90. According to the corporate media...

...gossip and dirt is all the more "unseemly" when it involves homosexuality. That may not be the case with the media's treatment of the Gannon/Guckert story, but I would be surprised if it weren't.

[Virginian]

195. Back in the late 70's early 80's there were two congressmen

who were "diddling" capitol pages. (High school students)
The one who diddled the male page was reelected. The one who diddled the female page was not.

[progressiveandproud]

249. You mean...

...the media reported on the incident with female page, but was too "dignified" to report on the Congressman who diddled the male page?

[Virginian]

267. No, the Washington press reported both diddlings.

The voters back home didn't seem to care that the male page was diddled. They re-elected the congressman who diddled the boy.

I can't even remember the names or parties of the diddlers. Sorry.

[dvaravati]

20. nothing will happen

.

[mirandapriestly]

21. They (Rove &CO) get away with everything

I've given up hope. How can you get any bigger than the lies and missteps of Bushco thus far?

But, I hope it's big too. Maybe if it's salacious it will bring them down, that might be what it takes.

[ultraist]

22. My guess is...

They have discovered and confirmed regular meetings with Gannon and a Scottie assitant where Gannon would recieve his list of questions.

This will CONFIRM that Gannon is a plant.

[Stirk]

29. I wonder if it has to do with the payola scandal?

Perhaps it can be proven that Gannon received money from the Bush Admin., like Armstrong Williams...?

That's my hope. :)

[frictionlessO]

44. thats exactly what Im thinking, Ill buy you a beer tomorrow

if we are right!

[Toucano]

156. I'll jump in on that one

because I think it probably involves money.

A "volunteer" reporter's gotta eat, too.

And now with the "hint" of the watch photo, I'm beginning to think we're right.

[shawcomm]

23. He was paid by the bushies to play pretend jounalist.

Not merely given access to help their side, but paid to be there.

[Bozita]

26. ... with their money ... or taxpayer money?

[shawcomm]

28. I'm betting taxpayer money...

at least that's my theory...

[MADem]

72. Well, we know that HALF of his salary

...was paid by that Eberle creep at GOPUSA, because one of the rules for getting a pass was that journalism had to be the source of at least HALF your income. The rest of the "Talon News Reporters" were volunteers--he was the only paid shill for that outfit.

So, with your theory in mind, who paid the OTHER half?

I'm still stuck on that hard pass. I'm wondering if he didn't have another job at the White House, as a 'contractor,' say, that entitled him to a White House hard pass (not a PRESS pass, a WH pass, like Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp and the maids, photographers, cooks, gardeners, and so forth have). I can't imagine that a couple of journalists, who are trained observers, could have erred when they said they saw him with what appeared to be a hard pass. The hard passes have pictures of the person on them. You'd remember the difference...

[FreedomAngel82]

123. You know Bush wouldn't pay for it

for anything. He'll just borrow some more SS money. :eyes:

[slor]

24. I want to know...

RIGHT NOW!!!

[njdemocrat106]

27. This is exciting!

I can't wait. I think this whole Gannon affair might to lead to other things, hopefully the downfall of Bush, Rove & Co.

[natrat]

30. gannon will reveal his spring wardrobe

[Bluebear]

32. Who doesn't like a fashion show?

[Nostradammit]

71. LMAO!!!

Just snuck up on me and slayed me!


Thanks, Bluebear

[woodsprite]

37. Maybe Gannon has a "blue dress". n/t

[DefenseLawyer]

31. I assume it is about Guckert's personal life

if Aravosis thinks that Guckert himself is likely to "pre-empt" the story. I don't know that more sordid details of his personal life are helpful to the story at this point, but anything that keeps the story alive will give an editor or two reason enough to let reporters keep digging at the real stuff.

[Spazito]

34. From Aravosis's comments on Brown's show, CNN, he...

was very clear it was the bush WH connections that was the issue not the escort business sites so I suspect he is continuing to focus on that connection.

An aside perhaps but I have never thought that advertising escort or any other businesses on the internet is considered part of one's personal life, it is very interesting that this seems to be a new 'addition' to what constitutes one's personal life and should be inviolate.

[DefenseLawyer]

40. No no, I didn't mean to imply it was "off limits"

I think it is very much in bounds and ought to be brought to light, every unseemly, hypocritical detail. But all you have to do is see the way the media has focused on the "mean bloggers attack personal life" angle to see that the WH would be very happy keep the story on those aspects of the overall Guckert story. And I hope hope it is about the WH connections, I am just not sure why Guckert, as opposed to the WH or whomever, would feel the need to pre-empt that story at this point.

[H2O Man]

47. Perhaps

the WH will suggest he pre-empt any significant story. Without knowing what the story is, none of us could be sure why "Guckert" would be sent to fall on his sword. Let's hope for a big story.

[Spazito]

48. Sorry I misunderstood your point re the 'personal life' and

I totally agree with you on the media deliberately focusing in on the faux talking point of 'personal life'. It makes me even more confident there is much more to this otherwise the WH would not be working so 'diligently' to divert from the real issue.

[H2O Man]

57. Think in terms

of David Ferrie. His personal life was so bizarre that it provided a distraction from his far more significant connections to and work for the intel community and Cubans in the early 1960s. We need to be careful that this fellow's sex life is not used to distract from his true connections to and work for the White House.

[Spazito]

59. Agreed, the similarities in the tactics being used to distract...

from the real story in coverage of David Ferrie and "Jeff Gannon" are very striking. The talking points have been sent and the media is faithfully regurgitating them, especially the cable networks.

Edited to add: I am in the midst of reading your thread on Plame/Gannon and the New American Revolution which is where I learned about David Ferrie. It is a very interesting thread, thank you for starting it!

[H2O Man]

88. Thank you for reading it.

And for your work here.

We need a way to focus the attention on the significant part of this story. It is difficult when there is sex mixed in. But I think in the next few days, his reputed sex life will take a back seat to his political works.

[peacetalksforall]

33. I think someone should start taking a count of the stories investigated

by traditional journalists vs blogger journalists.

It's getting kinda interesting.

[paineinthearse]

35. OK Bluebear, it's your job to relay it to us ASAP!!!!!

I'm holding my breath.

[Bluebear]

36. Well, being a night owl....

If it breaks at 9am you're out of luck LOL.

Keep checking John's blog at the url in the OP. You will probably hear it there first!

[Scout1071]

I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve......

The anticipation is killin' me!

[Bluebear]

139. Hopefully no lump of coal!

[wyldwolf]

38. I know what it is. It involves Michael Jackson and The Pope

... nah...

[jdj]

39. this guy does not play around, so I'm guessing this one

actually will be a big story. He basically declared war on passing republican queers and has been outing them right and left. More power to him.

[Bluebear]

41. Giving him the chance to "pre-empt" sounds pretty darn tight

I wonder if "Talon News" has the story yet?

[DoYouEverWonder]

42. Maybe he found out

whose signing Gannon's pay checks?

[Old Mouse]

43. Remember Gannon is not simply a fake journalist

he is a covert operative whose job was to spread propaganda and block the ability of the White House press corp to function freely.

Sedition and treason, most likely ordered by someone in the White House.

[rocktivity]

45. YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

I have decided to make the Dean Scream my official reaction to very good DU news. Carpe Screeum--Sieze The Scream!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Bluebear]

46. CARPE SCREEUM!

:yourock:

[Spazito]

51. LOL Love it!

Can a Canadian use it too in support of the NEW DNC CHAIR and to take it back from the nattering nabobs in the media?


YEEEAAAAHHHHHH!

[i miss america]

157. Carpe Screeum -- Love it !!!

[skids]

50. I shudder with antici......

[Bluebear]

53. pation

[crispini]

60. Bwahahahahahaha!

:yourock:

[skids]

194. Hrm... on second thought, your cast....

The Penn Ave Players:

Carl Rove as Frankenfurter
Dick Cheney as RiffRaff
Condi as Magenta
Gannon/Guckert as Rocky
Dubya as Brad
Laura as Janet

...and, I hesitate to say this, but
Hillary as Columbia
Bill as Eddie

... the parellels may run deeper than we think. :evilgrin:

[Clark2008]

93. Whew... got hotter in here.

[Patchuli]

183. God, I loved that girl, boy, girl, boy....heheee!

:P

[BuyingThyme]

52. I'm new to the world of blog...Can somebody tell me what makes Bluebear's

tease so intriguing for so many?

Thank you.

[NewJeffCT]

56. because it is a tease

That is why. There have been plenty of teases over the years, and some have actually born fruit. However, every time somebody that is respectable says that something big is coming, it makes one pay attention.

Let's put it this way - every day, people still ask the weatherman what the weather is going to be tomorrow, no matter how many times he is wrong.

[BuyingThyme]

58. Thank you.

[Steven_S]

54. A story resulting in a FROG MARCH would be nice.....

But I'll take anything at this point.

[Stephanie]

113. That's what I think - this is about Plame.

He will reveal who gave him the CIA memo. Frog March!

[Bluebear]

145. Wouldn't that be a nice VD present!

[candy331]

55. Scotty and Gannon sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g uhm! n/t

[Walt Starr]

63. If they prove any connection to the White House whatsoever

Guckert is a de facto conspirator to out a CIA agent and is suject to prosecution and many years in a federal prison.

This is serious business. My suspicion is that there will be proof of a propaganda conspiracy with possible payments.

[kohodog]

69. I admire the diggers who come up with hard info

Google dissapates into unrelated family albums. I truley admire the people who know hoiw to get the real dirt. Aravosis seems to have the knack and I applaud him, but alas, I think I am too old to figure out how to really get into the real info. The search engines have their limits, and I worry that the internet will become a target of the Amerianfascists.

[Walt Starr]

64. If they prove any connection to the White House whatsoever

Guckert is a de facto conspirator to out a CIA agent and is suject to prosecution and many years in a federal prison.

This is serious business. My suspicion is that there will be proof of a propaganda conspiracy with possible payments.

[ruggerson]

65. Isn't There One Scenario Which Would Tie His Personal Life in with the WH?

And that is if he were proven to be a male hustler and had clients inside our Nation's House?

Then it wouldn't be about his private life any longer, would it? It would be about the mind boggling hypocrisy of the Bush administration (and Republicans in general) - pandering to mentally ill fundamentalists by using gays as a boogeyman, while at the same time turning a blind eye to the enjoyment of a little, paid for, fun man on man sex in the White House.

If a big enough scandal, wouldn't this pretty much blow apart the entire "We want to 'protect' marriage" political farce?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

67. Proof that he lied when he said his porn sites were never active?

The post before the big story one looks like Americablog is on the trail of something like that

[Renew Deal]

74. Proof that he was at the Bush ranch on 8/25/01.

That would be big.

[Scout1071]

110. We need Moore's F 9/11 footage. Wasn't all that footage at the ranch

taken on 8/25/01? I could swear that part of the movie where they show Bush holding the PDB and giving a tour of the farm where he talks about Barney digging in a hole was from 8/25/01. Can anyone help me confirm? Maybe, just maybe, Mr. Gannon appears in that footage somewhere?

[MADem]

150. If they were NEVER ACTIVE

...why were they PASSWORD PROTECTED?????????

Inquiring minds want to know!!!!

[Botany]

70. Go get 'em

bush has to be stopped! Crazy bastard is flying drones into Iran.

This is not a time to play nice. Mangayte rocks.

Rove we are coming to get you and your 12 chins.
I wonder if "Gannon" was a guest at the Crawford Ranch?


Stephanie :loveya: Miller

[autorank]

94. There is a NPR transcript where *,in Crawford,mentions "the Gannons"

Tried to find the link, couldn't but it's there. if it was THIS Gannon, then they have some explaining to do to the xtians.

[DefenseLawyer]

98. I thought I read somewhere

that that was probably Raider Quarterback Rich Gannon and his wife, but I could be wrong.

[autorank]

102. Now you've sent me into crisis. If it was Rick Gannon, I will just puke.

That would be considered "conduct unbecomming a Raider" (i.e., hanging with a Republican leader).

[DoYouEverWonder]

209. I posted a thread about the Crawford story last week

Actually this was the second thread that I posted about it. I'm too lazy to look for the first one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3045226


BTW: Who is the guy in the picture in your sig line? He looks like someone from No. FL who happens to be in a bit of trouble at the moment.

[autorank]

270. Harvey Keitel, the actor: Taxi Driver, The Bad Lieutenant, etc.

No, this is not anyone on FL. Harvey's from Little Italy, lower Manhattan, NYC. BTW, that was a great thread. Really took me back. * looked so creepy. "The Gannons"...wonder which ones?

[rainbow4321]

161. He was down at Crawford at some point..

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/009666.html


Press Secretary McCllelan already admitted he knew Gannon was using a false name, yet played along with his cover for nearly two years. McClellan always seemed prepared to run with Gannon's softball questions, suggesting the questions were scripted beforehand. So how much help did the White House give "Gannon" with his research and writing? Gannon first got press clearance on April 3, 2003, four days after his fake news website was created. In less than three weeks, (April 22, 2003) Gannon is supposedly writing from Crawford, Texas, detailing Bush's Easter Celebration! The next day, he's back at his desk in Washington writing on Syria. And would Aziz Al-Taee, President of the Iraqi American Council, really grant an interview to a reporter with two weeks experience (April 14, 2003)?

[Renew Deal]

73. Start the google searches after 10pm EST.

That's when NYT's and others post stories.

[senseandsensibility]

76. You think it will be in the NYT?

I got the feeling that John was going to break it on the blog. But what do I know? I JUST HOPE IT'S SOMETHING BIG!

[Renew Deal]

78. I have no idea.

But if it's that big, it might make the press.

[lonestarnot]

77. He's fishbait... let him rot! n/t

[hootinholler]

79. My guess is that Gannon is a spook and confirmed to be...

A Honey Pot, and connected to the child sex ring from the RayGun years. Possibly someone tired of being blackmailed decided to stand up and discretly lead our intrepid blogger through the gates of hell and help explore the first level.

Or maybe it has something to do with the FBI interpreter.

BTW, some Dems are in on it too, the administration couldn't have gotten this far without bipartisan help.

Total Speculation on my part, eagerly awaiting tomorrow.

If I were to get a PM confirming anything, I can keep my mouth shut.

-Hoot

[BuyingThyme]

82. Yes, yes. This guy's got spook written all over him...

There's a lot of similarities between the Gannon mysteries and Oliver Stone's version of JFK.

Homosexuality is certainly still an asset in the intelligence communities.

[Occulus]

173. SPOOK?!? Hah!

His Freep posts put the lie to that, real quick. This guy's loudmouthed and arrogant about it.

He's not a spook- he's just a faked out dumbass 'journalist'. However, it seems from both his Freep posts and this thread that he may know something big.

For example, he inferred on Freep that he knows or knew 'something' about the Plame matter. You can read the exchange between him and a poster named 'JohnGalt' here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3091546#3093467

[Don1]

189. Spook

You're right that Gannon was no spook. However, you are getting Gannon and Gluckert confused. Gannon was the cover. Gluckert is the true identity. See my other post in this thread for more info.

[BuyingThyme]

219. Are you saying that those JFK loudmouths were not spooks?

Those guys were the most arrogant loudmouths on the planet, from Clay Shaw/Bertrand (confirmed CIA) to Lee Harvey Oswald (CIA, whether he knew it or not).

There's much more to the spy business than keeping secrets.

[mitchtv]

91. or we find out that the Allbright group owns

Military escourts M4M . Karl Rove strikes again.

[Old Mouse]

197. Good point about the Dems

I suspect you're right.

[opiate69]

81. Has anybody checked Freeprville to see is he preempted there?

[Walt Starr]

84. His account is still active, but no posts since 1/26/05 n/t

[opiate69]

87. OK.. thanks.. any other places to check??

[Hissyspit]

85. I love this. How come we didn't have the Internet when I was kid?

:D

[Bluebear]

89. Because whoever controls this kind of stuff knew what trouble....

I would have gotten into and delayed inventing it.

[s-cubed]

95. BIG - I hope!

[KansDem]

242. Because Al Gore hadn't invented it yet!

}(

[Bluebear]

92. UPDATE: John points out that others have copies of the files

Latest from Aravosis:

'PS Just so the bad guys out there know, several of my friends already have copies of my files. I'm just saying...'

http://www.americablog.org/

====

Pathetic that one would even have to say this, eh? Still, don't start your car by yourself, JA. Or fly in any small planes to interviews.

[Kingofalldems]

96. If he's giving out copies

for safekeeping-----this must be big.

[Bluebear]

97. And making it known that he wants no "accidents"

And welcome to DU!

[bling bling]

101. Ok theres a hint there now.

Picture of a watch but I don't know how to post pic's here.

[Clark2008]

104. It's the watch we saw in both pics of Gannon/Guckert and how we

IDed that he was the same person in both.

[rowire]

116. AND????????

We already knew that was Gannon/Guckert in his tighty whities. I hope that there is more than a confirmation that the gay photo was of Guckert/Gannon as verified by the watch. Is he overselling this?

[DoYouEverWonder]

211. Actually, that sort of looks like W's hand

Who knows?

[senseandsensibility]

106. I know !! I know!!!

Someone posted on another DU thread that the watch in the tighty whitey photo and the watch on a photo of Gannon was the same. Doesn't seem too incriminating, but maybe I'm missing something.

[bling bling]

111. I must be missing it too.

I'll definitely be staying tuned on this. I just hope hope hope that if it does get more incriminating it takes Shrub down too.

*praying*

[senseandsensibility]

114. He does say it's a new photo

so he's found another photo of Guckert and we know it's him because of the watch. What kind of photo? The imagination boggles.

[Bluebear]

117. Maybe some nudie shots on some other "Military escort" site?

And that Rove and McClellan hired this shill without knowing that he was whoring himself out on the internets?

[senseandsensibility]

119. Internets

That gets me every time.:P

[Swamp Rat]

122. Is it the photo in post #120?

:D

[senseandsensibility]

134. No it;s posted on his

site.

[Judi Lynn]

207. Maybe this will help, or someone else can explain it better, if not...

Point your mouse at the photo to be posted. Right click. At the bottom of the list will be "Properties." Click it. A box will open, with the address (URL). Highlight it by dragging your mouse across the address. Right click, and choose "copy." (Or press the "CTRL" key AND the "c" key, instead)

Point your mouse at the "message box" containing your post at D.U., and either right click and choose "paste" or press the "CTRL" AND the "v" key, which will print the address of the photo.

You can check to see if the photo will post by "Previewing" your post at the bottom of the message box before actually posting.

There are tons of great images, by the way, at google "images."
Good luck!

[Blue_Roses]

109. WOW--this must be some big story for him to say this

PS Just so the bad guys out there know, several of my friends already have copies of my files. I'm just saying...

:wow:

[Bluebear]

107. HINT #1 now posted

[DefenseLawyer]

118. No offense to the blogger guy

but "posting hints" doesn't really give this the feel of a serious news story.

[Bluebear]

125. He's no-win right now...

I agree with the hint business, but people were clamoring for some kind of info. You think maybe he has an exclusive contract for an interview and can't spill now?

[DrWeird]

128. That's standard procedure for journalists nowdays.

Is there a child molestor working at your child's school? Find out at eleven.

[Occulus]

174. Good point n/t

[Lone_Star_Dem]

124. Is that the same watch he's wearing in his tighty whitey photo? n/t

[DoYouEverWonder]

131. Sure looks like it

[bear425]

218. Does this look like his watch?

I got this photo from this site: http://usmcshop.grunt.com/Grunt/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=29&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D13%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D%2CApparel&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D39%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CJewelry%20and%20Accessories&mscssid=0E170FF4582894987BFC428FAF524934

edit: add Guckert pic

[slor]

112. One of the pundits on "Chris Matthews"...

made some comment about the gannon story, in the "tell me something I do not know" segment, I did not catch it though. Did anyone hear it?

[swag]

115. Gannon concocted Killian trojan horse?

[UTUSN]

121. GUCKERT, Armstrong WILLIAMS, & RNC Did/Didn't Use Trojans? n/t

[Swamp Rat]

120. I know what it is: Bush and Gannon are gay lovers!

:D

[bling bling]

126. Oh, if only.

How ironic would it be if it were THAT (out of everything else he's done) that brought him down.

[Swamp Rat]

127. Feel free to send my little Valentines Day card to whomever you wish.

:D

[girl gone mad]

168. You mean to whomever we wish to repel, right?

:)

[Swamp Rat]

172. Yes, or piss off.

:D

[WLKjr]

155. So Ironic if that would happen

Please, do not take offense anyone to what I am about to say.


lol :D then we could say, "At least Bill was having sex with the opposite sex! Your an idiot!"

ohhhh how that would burn a republican's ass! lol

[lostnfound]

175. It's the ONLY thing that would matter to half of his supporters, I think

Would ALMOST make it worth his having been put in office again, to see the RWers try to cope with THAT reality.

[Bluebear]

140. Arrrrgh my eyes!

Another masterpiece SR

[Swamp Rat]

144. Dank u. Here's the latest for your viewing displeasure:

[Clark2008]

129. Someone just said that this was Hint No. 2

But I'm thinkin' it's a joke.

[Bluebear]

130. Ahhhhh

:spank:

[Clark2008]

133. False alarm

I think that one was a joke.

But, I'm not sure.

This is still all very intriguing, isn't it?

I'll post in my original one that that one was a joke (I think).

[Bluebear]

135. I don't think it IS a joke!!

Maybe he was being spoonfed questions from Mr. Rove behind the curtains?

[Clark2008]

137. Yeah, but the link didn't come from John

It came from someone who says they were snooping on his site.
That's why I'm not sure of its validity.
BUT, you're exactly right. He could have been being spoonfed by someone on the Bush staff.

[RetroLounge]

132. Maybe it's about this?

RL

[loritooker]

136. What kind of a watch was Guckert wearing in the website photo?

Who's wrist is in the photo of "hint #1"? Is it Guckert? With the same watch? What else is in that photo?

[Bluebear]

138. That's the big question, is it even Guckert's wrist?

What else do we not see in that photo>?

[justiceischeap]

143. I don't think it's Gannon's wrist...

It's got liver spots and stuff. Anyone have any photos of Karl's wrist?

[justiceischeap]

141. I'm thinking it has something to do with him being a male hustler

If you read a few posts down he sorta hints at that.

Now I have a hypothetical. If it were proven that Gannon actually is/was a male hustler - again, this is just a hypothetical - then is this story still about his private life, would that be enough to distinguish him from bloggers like Markos at DailyKos, and would that fact be relevant to the issue of how he got access to the White House, the president and CIA documents?

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/question.html

That's where I'm placing my money. Of course I have no money right now... :shrug:

[Bluebear]

142. Well, prostitution is not his 'private life' it's against the law

And if Rove and McClellan hired him to softball questions without checking him out, etc...

We already know the guy doesn't pay his taxes, another crime.

[DefenseLawyer]

154. So what if Guckert is the biggest sleaze to ever live?

Yeah it's another right wing hypocrite, and it is funny and well deserved that he is exposed as such. But how does that hurt Bush? They wash their hands of the whole thing and the "bloggers destroy gay reporters career" story prevails (and is already over, by the way) Unless it can be connected to the WH I don't care what crimes he has committed or taxes he didn't pay or gay websites he created. I care about The White House and the crimes the cabal has committed. I haven't given up on this story yet. I know there is a substantive story here, but we need to connect it to something substantive pretty damn quick.

[Bluebear]

166. I think Valerie Plame holds the key

Sorry I missed your post when you posted it. I agree, the gay military escort thing is only useful because the press loves salacious stories. But if Gannon was privy to information about who leaked the Plame story and is being shielded as a "journalist" then we have something.

[Minstrel Boy]

149. If he's a hustler, then the WH may have been using him

for sexual blackmail in the press corp. Worse has happened before in a Bush White House.

Honey pot in the White House press corp?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3085974

[me b zola]

199. I've had a similar hunch

My hunch, though, revolves around the fact that he seemed to be soliciting military man on man prostitution. Penalty for gay sexual behavior under the UCMJ would be dishonorable discharge, with or without time in the brig. Loss of career, family, social status would be a very compelling reason for some one caught in such a snare to be susceptible to blackmail.

[H2O Man]

215. MB: I want you to

consider the possibility that the sexual funny business is not real. It may be part of the "legend" created to distract the public attention (if he were to become suspect) from his real role. Of course, it is possible that he is the David Ferrie of our generation. Either way, the sex stuff should not distract us from finding out what his actual role has been.

[rocktivity]

252. DING DING DING! Minstrel Boy, you're our grand prize winner!

That's EXACTLY what I've been thinking--it would explain why his "past" was overlooked by the White House press office, not to mention a lot of Dem Congressional votes!

:headbang:
rocknation

[sonias]

147. kick for high interest story

I agree with some of the prior posts that indicate that the story might be that the gay escort web sites where in fact live sites, and that Guckert/Fuckert really did own them. He lied to so many people about that not being the case. Maybe one of the clients of those sites came forward with some juicy leads.

John Aravosis of AmericaBlog is doing a great job on further research. And he was great on CNN. Very level headed and got all his major points in. A big thanks to John and the DailyKOS bloggers, Media Matters and Eschaton for all their hard work exposing this "douche bag for liberty" fake reporter.

Sonia

[Shredr]

153. I can't stand it!

What is it? What is it?

What time are we going to find out?

[bear425]

158. Ok...It's tomorrow now and I'm ready for the story! n/t

[rodeodance]

188. yes, it is TOMORROW ( a little early I realize) in my timezone also

[goodboy]

159. kick to see this guy go DOWN!

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[skids]

200. Erm, watch out what you ask for (eww) n/t

[goodboy]

225. dirty little mind you've got;) I got one too, it hasn'thadany coffee yet.

[Bluebear]

160. What kind of watch is Scotty wearing???

Do U.S. Presidents award their "special" people with watches?

[Bluebear]

162. ???

[Clark2008]

165. How 'bout this one?

[justiceischeap]

164. Nope, not the same watch

I saw that photo on Corbis. His watch has a round face, is silver with a black band. I'm pretty certain the clue watch has a brown band, is gold and has a square face. I looked up photos of Rove, Mehlmann and Shrub, none match. I wonder what kind of watch Novak wears?

[Must_B_Free]

248. Michael Jackson gave his victims a watch worth 75,000

or rather he told them it was worth that much, it was actually far cheaper.

[Straight Shooter]

163. Question: Who else wears a watch like the watch Gannon is wearing?

And is this watch he's wearing the same kind of watch that has ever been given as a gift from any White House official? Or did someone in the White House wear the watch before giving it to Gannon?

Eh, probably can't prove anything, unless the watch has an inscription and proof of origin.

edit: aw, nevermind. There's something about the watch that people who visited the site noticed, so it can't be anything about the watch specifically, just that the watch leads to something else. Hmmmmm....

[NC_Nate]

170. My Guess

has something to do with this??

http://www.davidclemens.com/gaymilitary/29porn.htm

[fob]

181. They advertise an abu ghraib video on that website, whoops, not

at that one linked there but the marine one linked on that website, wonder if any of the abu grhaib stuff came through jimjeff's hands?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

185. remember when the Boston Globe ran photos they thought were from abu g?

and the rw blogs immediately "debunked" them as being from a porn site?

wouldn't surprise me if those photos incuded a guy with the same watch and tatoos of mr gannon...

planting fake evidence to discredit the supposedly "lib'rul media"

much like i've suspected for months happened with cbs

that's my official guess

[Hissyspit]

169. Guckert has the WMD's hidden in his watch...

[Hissyspit]

171. Is it the Holy Grail? (Hidden in watch? It's the Freemasons! I knew it.

They're behind everything!) (I did this joke in the other thread, too. But I always like a good Freemason joke.)

[BattyDem]

177. Hint #2 posted

This is it:


Any ideas? :shrug:


On edit: I found the same dog on Military-Graphics.com
It's the USMC bulldog.




On edit, part 2:
Someone on AmericaBlog just posted that Yale's logo is a bulldog. This could get interesting ...

[NC_Nate]

180. That is a..

very popular tattoo among the marines....

I'm sticking with my guess
http://www.davidclemens.com/gaymilitary/29porn.htm

[Rockerdem]

182. Rumsfeld's? lol

I dont think that this is going to be a Valerie Plame connection.

[Hissyspit]

186. It's the USMC/military bulldog used at lots of colleges...

even high schools, I think. Connected to Georgia Military College/Citadel. Is the watch somehow connected to one of these schools. Guess Atravosis will let us know tomorrow. Not sure why he's playing this hint game - he said he was contacting "Gannon," so maybe he wanted to make sure proof of his 'story' was on the website in case "Gannon" went public first.

[deacon]

184. Since mainstream media has become a parody of itself, bloggers rule n/t

[MurrayDelph]

187. Unfortunately, I have a feeling the story will soon be

Guckert, aka Gannon, found dead in the woods hanging from 30-foot
tree, with arms and legs trussed, and containing several bullet
holes. Texas coroner rules suicide.

[bling bling]

191. LOL.

And the MSM quickly diverts our attention: "Americans! Look -- over there -- Chris Rock is saying something about gay people and the Oscars"

[Don1]

190. Prediction: Spook

Here are some obvious clues:
(1) Ex-military.
(2) Access to highly classified memos.
(3) Access to info on who is a CIA agent.
(4) False identity had access to highly restricted areas.
(5) False identity given first press questions by administration.
(6) Involved in pro-government propaganda undercover.
(7) When cover blown, went into hiding with family.

[bling bling]

193. Well, since we don't know, I prefer to think (hope) that's what it is too

And I'll re-post this. On another thread I was *hoping* the "Bulldog" had to do with Patrick "Bulldog" Fitzgerald:

From March, 2004:

Is Team Bush about to implode? It sure doesn't look that way from the outside. But beneath the calm unruffled exterior of an administration that never admits either error or doubt, there are some palpitating hearts that beat a little faster each time U.S. special counsel Patrick J. "Bulldog" Fitzgerald issues another subpoena in the Plame leak probe, and the sound of all that pitter-pattering grows progressively louder, as he has been especially busy of late.

An interesting footnote: On the list of subpoenaed materials are included administration contacts with more than two dozen journalists. Included right up there with superstars such as Walter Pincus and Dana Priest, of the Washington Post, Evan Thomas (Newsweek), Andrea Mitchell, Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Nicholas D. Kristof, and Judith Miller, we have one Jeff Gannon, of something called "Talon News." So, what's up with that?

My regular readers might recall a column I wrote on Plame-gate a couple of months ago, wherein I mentioned that the Talon News Agency, an arm of something called "GOP U.S.A," did an interview with Ambassador Wilson, during which the interviewer challenged Wilson with an internal U.S. government document purporting to be the minutes of a meeting at which Plame played a key role in getting her husband the Niger assignment. There was just one problem with these documents: as in the Niger uranium forgeries, which listed ministers who hadn't served in years and got key facts wrong, these minutes of a purported meeting of CIA agents placed personnel in locations they couldn't possibly have been. Another forgery! Counterfeiting official documents is also a crime, particularly when it is done with the cooperation or complicity of government officials involved in a conspiracy.

I advise Mr. Gannon to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, if he knows what's good for him.

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2100

[cynatnite]

216. Your theory makes sense n/t

[Old Mouse]

196. This is what keeps me awake

he is obviously a spook.

We finally have proof Bush has some sort of network he runs outside of government oversight.

Sure the gay sex stuff was funny at first, but why we are still treating this as a joke now is beyond me. We have the Plame leak in what looks like a direct line to the White House, in a worst case scenario for Bush: an agent caught in the act of providing misinformation on behalf of the administration.

[Old Mouse]

198. another question

how much money does one make writing for an Internet news site?

Enough to live in comfort in Washington DC?

[BuyingThyme]

221. Other spook clues:

- His military, ex-military, or never-military status is unclear.
- He's somehow involved in an underground sex network. (This is very common among spooks; it keeps them in the loop).
- He's receiving a pass from the corporate media.
- He isn't being investigated by the government.
- He supports the pro-war, anti-America agenda.
- He's claiming that his public life is his private life.

[caligirl]

192. Marine Force recon could be a source for the watch and they would

be one group that could issue this type of watch. The general issue watch is not like this one, itsd real cheap with a nylon band.

But the force recon guys would need something like this. They dive, parachute, long range reconnasonce. They are special forces type guys.

The unit may have a purchasing guy order these from a local dive shop and the unit itself would put the emblem on signifying its unit logo.

That also would be one possible reason he is wearing it. Taht is an elite unit and a guy involved with this would be very proud of himself. They are based in North Carolina, San Diego, C pendleton, etc.

[LordshipLadyship]

201. important question

On aol, at your profile, is there a choice of sounds to play when someone views it? Reason I ask is that I just looked at the one for JGD 17 (which is his, according to one message on the blog) and it has a flag border, but also it has a sound of a *dog* whining. Please someone who has aol go capture it fast. This was the url for it aol://4951:req=favpl&sn=JDG17&email=&dsn=&dsf=0 But it doesn't work to go there directly. I'm surprised he left this much behind. If you're on aol you can see it.

[American Tragedy]

202. Is it related to his military 'escort service'?

Or is this something totally new?

[LordshipLadyship]

203. It just shows the profile

No info other than screenname and that sound, which if he chose it, together with that sound (which might or might not be related to the bulldog,) is interesting. Anyone on aol can view it, just search for it.

[0rganism]

204. It better be big and unwhitewashable, because the Gannon story is wilting

The mass media won't willingly touch it right now; they know what's at stake. It's all "poor Mr. Guckert and those simply awful liberal bloggers who are making his life so miserable."

This has to be something on the scale of Gannon acting as an envoy between Bush and Saddam Hussein (or Michael Jackson), or it won't get any airplay whatsoever.

I've been disappointed too many times before for this to get me excited.

[cynatnite]

205. It better stick like dirty underwear to a wall

There've been a few times I got my hopes up and this time I won't. It needs to be something that gets their attention and won't go away. Whatever it is, it has to stick.

[flyarm]

227. heck the 9/11 story about 52 warnings is huge..and its not getting

msm air time..and that story is hugeeeee!!! nothing sticks to these bastards...nothing!!
the sunday crap shows didnt even hardly touch the 9/11 story...

a disgusted and sad fly

[Swamp Rat]

206. Happy Valentine's Day!

:D

[HeeBGBz]

210. Swamp Rat you've outdone yourself

Now, I must vomit.

Carry on.

[0rganism]

262. Well, I'll grant you that this "expose'" is remarkably timely

Unfortunately, Gannon is not a Democratic officeholder or candidate, so his "youthful indiscretions" will be completely ignored by the MSM, as per usual.

Sex is not enough. We need Celebrity Sex to make this into a lasting issue. Find a movie of Gannon vigorously penetrating Rummy's various orifices, and maybe something useful will come of it, so to speak.

[Swamp Rat]

266. I agree, but in the realm of public opinion, image is everything.

Hope Springs Eternal on the Gannon/Rummy video...Actually, I expect Rove is somehow involved with "Gannon." :D

As base as this scandal is, if the tabloids exploit it (fingers crossed) it will damage this administration. Time to turn the "Gingrich Revolution" upside down by taking a page from their playbook. ;)

[TWiley]

208. In all, where have the Christian anti-homosexuals been?

One would think that they would be all over this story. Surely, their pristine virtue would require that they rise and condemn this sin to hell.

Why the silence on the religious right?

[lostnfound]

213. Yes, it would have been "How can that awful Clinton allow a Soddomite..

into the White House briefing room.." Scaife's papers would have exploded into gay-Clinton exposes.

[TWiley]

233. Exactly! Evidently oral sex is a sin.

But, according to the fundi manual, homosexual oral sex is a real doozie of a sin. If he were a democratic sympathizer, they would have showed up by the ark-load in protest ... "see what types of people liberals are?" etc.

[rodeodance]

214. so, it is the moring. did this thread get moved? anything happen?

[SheepyMcSheepster]

217. not yet, clue #2 has been revealed if you didn't know

check here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3107989&mesg_id=3107989&page=

[sellitman]

220. Clue # 2?

Is this a game? :wtf:

[SheepyMcSheepster]

224. yeah, i know. my feelings exactly. eom

[rodeodance]

261. thanks, )but saw that already)

[DefenseLawyer]

222. Because no one has really connected it to the WH yet

This story at this point exposes a hypocrite, but not a WH hypocrite. "We don't discriminate against journalist in giving out daily passes, they say. We recognize the changing media and the changing definition of journalism, they they. WE didn't know that guy at all, but we did see him cry on tv and that should make everyone pause and reflect about the politics of self destruction used by the mean spirited left Blah blah blah blah" Until a solid connect to the administration is made, they could care less that this clown has been thrown under the bus.

[TWiley]

234. I still feel that the conservative church-folks

would have gotten mileage out of it anyway. If he were a Democratic sympathizer, what would the reaction be? Likely this: "See how horrible those liberals are?" "They will stop at nothing to advance the homosexual agenda" bla bla bla.

[DefenseLawyer]

246. I am shocked! Shocked to learn that

right wing evangelical leaders are motivated by politics and not ideology!

[TWiley]

259. Yes, It is a difficult load to bear.

<dispensed pain relieving tablet to DefenseLawyer> I had to accept the harsh reality for what it was myself.

As meaningless as truly is, I try to never miss an opportunity to highlight their hypocrisy. After all, they sure as hell are quick to point out our "sins".

[malmapus]

223. Almost done...

Looks like its anytime now hehehe =D

[ArnoldLayne]

226. Is there a link between new Republican Party chairman Ken Mehlmen

who is known to be gay and Jeff Gannon or Karl Rove.

[spanone]

228. OK tomorrow is officially here. Where's the beef?

n/t

[Renew Deal]

230. Something to do with a watch dog and invoices.

More at 11

[Carni]

231. Latest entry is "He's toast just got invoices"

That was at around 10 AM--this is freaking annoying!

[merh]

232. Note added to that entry

PS Not playing games with you. Well, ok, a little bit. But I'm still writing. Almost done. I figured I'd slip a little info first.

and: Gannon's blog from today.

I am NOT Jeff Gannon and I am NOT toast.
Edit: I AM still sexy after all these years.
http://jeffgannon.blogspot.com/

[Flubadubya]

235. I'm too sexy for my post...

I'm the "journalist" with the most!

Had to leave the White House corps,
Now the libs all call me "whore"!

I'm too sexy for my post,
I'm the "journalist" with the most.

Had to give up my White House privies,
but you can still see me in my nice white skivies!

I'm too sexy for my post!

[Roland99]

237. Dude's getting pretty damn defensive, eh?

[hang a left]

229. ...

[The Zanti Regent]

239. Just put up on Raw Story

Developing: Mounting evidence suggests conservative White House reporter 'Gannon' paid to have site set up with intention to prostitute himself.... Developing...

[Stevendsmith]

240. Who gives a crap!

We already know the guy was potentially a prostitute.

God, I'm so tired of grasping at straws.

Fuckin' A!

[rocktivity]

253. But did the BUSH WHITE HOUSE know that?

Did McCellan and Co. know that the guy was potentially a prostitute? If they did, how and why did get a press pass? And if they didn't know, WHY didn't they? Who was responsible? And are there others?

Those are perfectly logical questions, and they're all that matter. It's not the crime or any salaciousness, it's the coverup!

There will HAVE to be an investigation now. And though it may not bring down Georgie, it will do the next best thing--put a couple of great big dents in his mainstream media machine!

:headbang:
rocknation

[DefenseLawyer]

247. If that is the BIG story

then someone needs to give blogger guy a copy of "All the President's Men" and perhaps a clue while they're at it. If that is the BIG story Karl Rove couldn't be happier.

[CottonBear]

241. From the Americablog Haloscan comments:

Rawstory just scooped you on DU.... lol


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3109236#3109279
Randi's Bitch | Email | Homepage | 02.14.05 - 11:46 am | #

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[Botany]

243. Drip Drip Drip

I love it. Take your time. This really screws w/ the freepers, Rove, Fox, and
the rest.

But the Headline I would like to see ........

MANGATE GROWS: HOMOSEXUAL PROSTITUTE WORKS FOR ROVE

Red State reaction? Radioactive Riot of the Righteously Wronged.

Stephanie :loveya: Miller

[Roland99]

244. If it ends up being some expose on his homosexual side, it will kill this

We need to focus on the meat! The Plame connection.

Otherwise, this will become a left-wing hit piece a la Rathergate (when CBS was sitting on a goldmine of a story but instead went after Bush's NG record which no one really gave a shit about.)

[Cooley Hurd]

250. Here it is (from Americablog):

http://www.americablog.blogspot.com/

A man called Jeff
by John in DC - 2/14/2005 01:26:00 PM

WARNING: A number of the links in this story are to x-rated photographs, and some of those might prove shocking to some people. Please exercise your own discretion when clicking. (And, as you read, please forgive the necessary typos - I'm going for rock-solid facts, rather than spelling.)

WOLF BLITZER: Because one of the things, as you know, that were said is that you had some sexually explicit Web sites that you were working on. I don't understand what that is, but maybe you could explain that.

JEFF GANNON: Well, several years ago, before I came to Washington, I had registered various domain names for a private client. I was doing Web site development. Those sites were never hosted. There's -- nothing ever went up on them. And the client went on to do something else. - CNN, 2/10/05
</snip>

Photos on Americablog...

[Mr_Spock]

251. Uh-oh.

Somebody's in trouble. Not that there's anything wrong with that. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[rocktivity]

254. Mods, I think it's time to lock this thread and start a new one

that actually discusses the story.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Spacejet]

256. The story is ALREADY out

He's a fake reporter that is on the Rove pay roll and was hired DELIBERATLY to deceive the american people.

PERIOD. That's ALL folks. I don't know why you need ANYTHING else. Enough with "rove's lover" bull shit.

The very fact of WHY this guy was hired is grounds for impeachment of ANYONE involved in the administration. (and you can bet your ass bush and cheney were in on it)

[Ian David]

258. Gannon's hypocrisy

Try this google search:

Google search: site:www.talonnews.com "Jeff Gannon" and "Homosexual"
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=site:www.talonnews.com+%22Jeff+Gannon%22+and+%22Homosexual+%22

Gannon talks about "pro-homosexual groups" and "homosexual advocacy groups" as opposed to "gay rights groups" and "protecting marriage."


My personal "favorites":

Talon News -- Kerry Could Become First Gay President
Kerry Could Become First Gay President By Jeff Gannon Talon News October 12 ... Massachusetts
liberal has enjoyed a 100% rating from the homosexual advocacy group ...
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:PrYrLDdytnIJ:www.talonnews.com/news/2004/october/1012_kerry_gay_presidentp.shtml+site:www.talonnews.com+%22Jeff+Gannon%22+and+%22Homosexual+%22&hl=en

Talon News -- Special Interest Dollars Fuel Daschle’s ' ...
Special Interest Dollars Fuel Daschle’s 'Shadowboxing' Campaign By Jeff Gannon Talon
News December 17 ... The pro-homosexual Human Rights Campaign gave $6,000. ...
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:Tb4lzdm_Ti4J:www.talonnews.com/news/2003/december/1217_daschle.shtml+site:www.talonnews.com+%22Jeff+Gannon%22+and+%22Homosexual+%22&hl=en


Talon News -- Bush Backs Amendment to Protect Marriage
Bush Backs Amendment to Protect Marriage By Jeff Gannon Talon News February 25,
2004. ... The homosexual activist group, The Human Rights Campaign sharply condemned ...
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:QEexKycCm44J:www.talonnews.com/news/2004/february/0225_gay_amendment.shtml+site:www.talonnews.com+%22Jeff+Gannon%22+and+%22Homosexual+%22&hl=en



There ya go.

[wildeyed]

257. I could not make this stuff up.

Prostitute roaming the white house with access to the Plame memos. Holey moley!

[kikiek]

260. I think he probably did CBS and Plame setups.

[MADem]

265. Blazingly scandalous!

http://www.americablog.blogspot.com/

[pinniped]

268. This character will be silenced if he's thinking...

about spilling the beans on these criminals.

Stay away from airplanes and umbrellas.

[GetTheRightVote]

269. I can not wait to hear the big news .......

:kick: