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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:40 AM
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If you were starting a REAL news network, what journalists would you want?
And please INCLUDE bloggers who have been acting as investigative journalists.

Who are the best, the ones who are still being journalists? Or the ones who didn't necessarily go to school to be journalists but act like one more than the paid pros on TV?

In other words, your dream team for a REAL news network, as in fourth estate, as in old-school, kick-ass news coverage.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:43 AM
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1. Bill Moyers and Bob Woodward (nt)
nt
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:29 PM
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39. Bob Woodward is a bushbot!
He licks the boy blunder's and poppy's boots!
Never woodward - not in a million years!

Richard Clark!
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thjay Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:43 AM
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2. William Pitt
I read everything I can by Pitt. Tonights essay titled "One for All" was amazing.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/021305A.shtml
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:44 AM
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3. He's a little bulldog.
You definitely want a bulldog.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "little." I meant it affectionately. He'll forgive me. ;-)
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:45 AM
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4. The only one I trust anymore
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 12:47 AM by jojo54
is Keith Olbermann. ??Maybe Ron Regan?? I really don't trust anyone else to tell the truth. Not even George Stephanopollus (spelled wrong I know)

Oh, oh, except for the people at consortiumnews.com. They'd dig to China for the truth.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:45 AM
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5. Snufflupagus is a little stooge.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:48 AM
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6. I agree
He looks like he's reading from the same cue cards as *
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:49 AM
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7. Seymour Hersh
And I want Cornel West and Howard Zinn to represent "the left" on my version of "Crossfire".
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:57 AM
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15. Ooo that's a good one.
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:26 AM
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20. Seymore Hersch is awesome!
Also, get Thom Hartmann, and Hunter S. Thompson for laughs.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:52 PM
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43. hell yeah....Hunter S Thompson and Seymour Hirsh definitely.
Jon Stewart, William Pitt, and I think David Brock.
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cshupp Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:49 AM
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8. Chuck Bowden
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:50 AM
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9. Me!!
I've been out of the business long enough. My son's in school, now, so daycare is not so much an issue any longer.

But, who wants to go into the crap that's out there right now?

:shrug:

(I was an investigative reporter, btw).
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:34 AM
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21. ROFL, your avatar....
The insanity continues unabated. Poor man, I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him, what with all us fangirls running around drooling over him at the drop of a ... er ... hat. :evilgrin:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:52 AM
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10. Greg Palast, Mike Ruppert, Josh Marshall, Molly Ivins
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:53 AM
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11. Greg Palast
:-)

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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:55 AM
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12. William Rivers Pitt, Olbermann, Kos, Jon Stewart, Jon Stewart
...and a host of others who aren't on TV but should be.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:56 AM
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13. I'd drag Moyers and Cronkite out of retirement to get started.
Then I'd bring in other journalists who have had a scrap of integrity. They're mostly to be found on the "Style" pages of the newspaper, because integrity don't sell corporate news.

I figure it would take about 6 months to let Moyers and Cronkite off the hook. By then there would be enough others to keep it going.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:58 AM
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16. Me too when journalists were journalists....not propaganda spreaders..n/t
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:56 AM
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14. Amy Goodman, Jeremy Scahill, Dennis Bernstein, Gary Wood
I know Gary has died, but he sure should have been on our dream team.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:26 AM
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54. If Amy Goodman did a nightly network newscast, others would dry up
She even makes Haiti interesting and brutally clear.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:00 AM
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17. Molly Ivins, John Aravosis, Keith Olbermann
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:47 AM
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22. I second the motion for Olbermann
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:00 AM
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18. Jeff Gannon, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter
I would have them stuffed and placed in a glass display case in the lobby as a daily reminder to my staff of what NOT to become.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:06 AM
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19. Amy Goodman, Bill Moyers, Greg Palast, Jeff Cohen
and commentary from Phil Donahue and Jim Hightower in primetime
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:53 AM
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23. Everyone mentioned plus Helen Thomas
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 01:55 AM by Greybnk48
She's a hero and always has been---she's never caved. She is the first one, I believe to label * the worst President ever.

On edit: Minus Woodward. He's not to be trusted IMO. Maybe Bernstein.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:15 PM
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48. Helen Thomas
she was onto Bush from the start. I guess covering Washington, D.C. for decades gives you a little perspective.
Let's see....Helen Thomas....Anne Coulter. These two don't even belong in the same universe.
(I bet Helen knows Canada didn't send troops to Viet Nam.)
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:01 AM
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24. Agree , plus the young reporter on MTV who covered the vote, Iraq, real
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 02:05 AM by evolvenow
fresh and honest. Moyers , Palast, Ivins, Goodman, Stewart, Kos, Hersh, Pitt, Olbermann, Seems like a Dream, Bobthedrummer,octafish,JOM, from DU,...and hold open auditions, like a reality show,American Idol, to find authentic new voices....and promote the hell out of it from
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:04 AM
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25. Helen Thomas would be my anchor!
I would do Olberman, David Gergen, Pat Buchanan, and Jon Stewart
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:25 PM
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35. LOL.
I would do Olbermann too.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.) :evilgrin:
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:51 AM
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26. One time for Jim Hightower.
The rest of the list looks good, especially the DUers wwho would be involved (hi, seems!).

I want mopaul for the Weather segments. His maps would be worth the price of admission and then some!

:smoke:
dbt
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:21 PM
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31. Damn, that's a good choice. Good ol' Jim Hightower, how
could I forget him?

Have you noticed he's like a dying breed?

:cry:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:05 AM
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27. Daily Show group
Seriously. They seem to be intelligent, dedicated people, and sometimes they are more probing, more investigative, and much less biased and agenda driven than the mainstream media.

Scary, no?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:22 PM
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32. Very, but I totally agree.
I've often watched that show and thought "Hell, if they ever loosed those writers to write serious news segments, it'd be ON like Donkey Kong."

Maybe they should...
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:22 PM
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51. Them and Bill Maher would make a great late night block
"Hello and welcome to Intelligent News Network - After Dark"
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:19 AM
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28. bill moyers, thom hartman greg palast, peter arnet, helen thomas, olberman
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 07:24 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
dan rather, jon stewart, amy goodman
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:23 PM
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33. I've seen Amy Goodman's name a lot, who is she?
Forgive my ignorance, please.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:32 PM
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40. Pacifica radio Demcoracy Now news director & host
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:YIULntB6vM4J:

News Director and Morning Show Host at Pacifica station WBAI in New York City anchors the show from NY Goodman has covered U.S. foreign policy and reported for Pacifica in Mexico, Haiti and Indonesia. She won awards for breaking the story on a massacre of peaceful demonstrators in occupied East Timor. She is a recipient of a 1999 George Polk award for her work on Drilling & Killing

http://www.pacifica.org/programs/democracy_now/amy.html




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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:22 AM
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29. Bob Herbert, Paul Krugman. nt
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:14 AM
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30. H2O Man, gotta have Krugman....
Lots and lots of DU'ers who do great stuff. Phew! What a list this could become!
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:24 PM
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34. Eric Alterman.
He keeps saying it and I agree. He'd have a
great show.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:26 PM
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36. Me
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:28 PM
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38. Heh, yeah, shadowknows69!
Me too! Me too! :)
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:27 PM
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37. Keith Olbermann... (But, of course.) n/t
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:35 PM
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41. Naomi Klein, Helen Thomas... n/t
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:38 PM
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42. Hate to get this meme started again, but,...
Anybody But Who We've Got Now!

Great, now I need to make a ABWWGN bumper sticker.

Honestly, there's a whole lot of very good, intentionally
marginalized journalist out there. If you seek them out
as I do. :)
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:56 PM
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44. Amy Goodman, Seymore Hersh, Kieth Olberman,
Bill Moyers.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:01 PM
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45. Linda Ellerbee
Don't know much about her politics but I've admired her journalistic style since her NBC days. And IIRC she's a breast cancer survivor.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:10 PM
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46. Maria Henijosa
Of CNN -- not sure of the spelling of her name -- formerly with NPR --did a fantastic job covering the anti-war demonstrations in New York City. Instead of talking to the most bedraggled and outrageous protestor, she interviewed elderly women in fur coats who said, "We never did anything like this before in our lives!"
She also did a piece a couple of weeks ago about the mother of a soldier who was killed in Iraq who became an activist. It was a very sympathetic, excellent piece.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:11 PM
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47. all the above plus Janeane Garofalo, Sam Seder
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:20 PM
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49. Walter Cronkite, editor emeritus

"And that's the way it is....."

And a shameless plug for Media Channel

http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/cronkite.shtml

Walter Cronkite On The Media—And The Media Channel

Good evening, I'm Walter Cronkite. I really wanted to be with you in person tonight for Globalvision New Media's launch of the new Internet site the Media Channel, but unfortunately I was called out of the country. Yet the issues that led to the creation of this unique global resource, and the crisis that's facing all of us who work in and care about journalism and the media, are so profound that I simply felt compelled to tape this message so that you would know that I am with you in spirit at least.

As you know, I've been increasingly and publicly critical of the direction that journalism has taken of late, and of the impact on democratic discourse and principles. Like you, I'm deeply concerned about the merger mania that has swept our industry, diluting standards, dumbing down the news, and making the bottom line sometimes seem like the only line. It isn't and it shouldn't be.

At the same time, I'm impressed that so many other serious and concerned people around the world are also becoming interested in holding media companies accountable and upholding the highest standards of journalism.

The Media Channel will undoubtedly be worth watching and taking part in. I am intrigued by its potential, and its global reach. The idea that so many leading groups and individuals around the whole world have come together to share resources and information about a wide range of media concerns is very promising, and I urge you to make the Media Channel your media 'bookmark' and your portal to the Internet.

more....
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:22 PM
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50. Speaking of Media Channel - Danny Schecter
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 01:27 PM by paineinthearse
http://www.newsdissector.org/blog/

Danny's Bio

Danny Schechter is a television producer and independent filmmaker who also writes and speaks about media issues.

He is the author of "Embedded: Weapons of Mass Deception: How the Media Failed to Cover the Iraq War" (Prometheus Books, October 2003); "Media Wars: News At A Time of Terror" (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003); "The More You Watch, The Less You Know" (Seven Stories Press) and "News Dissector: Passions, Pieces and Polemics" (Akashic Books and Electron Press). He is the executive editor of MediaChannel.org, the world's largest online media issues network, and recipient of the Society of Professional Journalists' 2001 Award for Excellence in Documentary Journalism.

He has produced and directed many TV specials and documentary films, including "Counting on Democracy" about the electoral fiasco in Florida narrated by Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee; the post 9-11 film We Are Family" (2002) shown at the Sundance Film Festival; "Nkosi: A Voice of Africa's AIDS Orphans" (2001) narrated by Danny Glover; "A Hero for All: Nelson Mandela's Farewell" (1999); "Beyond Life: Timothy Leary Lives" (1997); "Sowing Seeds/Reaping Peace: The World of Seeds of Peace" (1996); "Prisoners of Hope: Reunion on Robben Island" (1995, co-directed by Barbara Kopple); "Countdown to Freedom: Ten Days that Changed South Africa" (1994), narrated by James Earl Jones and Alfre Woodard; "Sarajevo Ground Zero" (1993); "The Living Canvas" (1992), narrated by Billy Dee Williams; "Beyond JFK: The Question of Conspiracy" (1992, co-directed by Marc Levin and Barbara Kopple); "Give Peace a Chance" (1991); "Mandela in America" (1990); "The Making of Sun City" (1987); and "Student Power" (1968).

Schechter is co-founder and executive producer of Globalvision, a New York-based television and film production company now in its 16th year. He founded and exec-produced the series "South Africa Now" and co-produced "Rights & Wrongs: Human Rights Television. He has specialized in investigative reporting and producing programming about the interface between human rights, journalism, popular music and society. His career began as the "News Dissector" at Boston's leading rock station, WBCN. Later, Schechter was a producer for ABC NEWS 20/20. He produced 50 segments for ABC and won two national Emmys and was nominated or two others.

A Cornell University graduate, he received his Master's degree from the London School of Economics, and an honorary doctorate from Fitchburg College. He was a Neiman Fellow in Journalism at Harvard, where he also taught in 1969. After college, he was a full time civil rights worker and then communications director of the Northern Student Movement, and worked as a community organizer in a Saul Alinsky-style War on Poverty program. Then, moving from the streets to the suites, Schechter served as an assistant to the Mayor of Detroit in 1966 on a Ford Foundation grant.

Schechter joined the start-up staff at CNN as a producer based in Atlanta. He then moved to ABC as a producer for 20/20. Schechter has reported from 49 countries and lectured at many schools and universities. He was an adjunct professor at the Graduate School of Journalism at Columbia University. Schechter's writing has appeared in leading newspapers and magazines including the The Nation, Newsday, Boston Globe, Columbia Journalism Review, Media Studies Journal, Detroit Free Press, Village Voice, Tikkun, Z, and many others.

For further information please visit Dissectorville - http://www.newsdissector.org/dissectorville/
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:43 PM
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52. Categories
Anchors - Keith Olbermann
- Linda Ellerbee

Reporters - Greg Palast
- Seymour Hersh
- William Pitt

On-air personalities/hosts - Jim Hightower
- Bill Press
- Randy Rhodes
- Mike Malloy
- Alison Stewart (yeah, I know, but I think she's hot)

Panelists - Al Franken
- Thom Hartman
- Molly Ivins
- H2O Man (love his posts)

Financial Review show - Ron Insana & Paul Krugman

Media Review Show host - David Brock, obviously

Commentators (a la Andy Rooney) - Walter Cronkite
- Bill Moyers
- Hunter S. Thompson
- Helen Thomas
- Harlan Ellison!!!!!!!

Late Night hosts - Jon Stewart
- Bill Maher

Partisan Dog for network to kick (a la Alan Colmes) - I'm not that cruel

Republican pundit-electric shock therapy host - I envision a weekly contest (nope, still not that cruel, but hey, as long as we're dreaming here)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:47 PM
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53. Robert Parry; throw in Robert Scheer (LA Times) and you have
the Roberts News Channel -- or RNC!!!
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